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Christmas Eve Eve - Your top 5 most likely 1st round picks

Pete in VA : 4/25/2017 6:07 am
Two days before Christmas is when I started having trouble getting to sleep as a kid. I'm a bit beyond that, but I admit that I do play out draft scenarios as I'm dozing off.

List your top 5 most likely. Not your pie in the sky wish list.

1. T.J. Watt - I think they'd love to get him, but he's rising and he may be gone.
2. Jarrad Davis - Again, good chance he's gone
3. David Njoku - Raanan says no way, but he seems like an obvious choice to me. He's exactly what the Giants need to make this offensive dynamic. As a DC area resident, I appreciate the value of a guy like Jordan Reed. He's the guy that's often mentioned as a comp (for Engram as well)
4. Patrick Mahomes -- Not impossible that they take Eli's replacement this year
5.Kevin King - As with passrushers, you can never have too many corners.

My gut feeling is that the Giants could trade up this year, perhaps for one of the above. I think they feel that the next two years is a window of opportunity and are willing to be aggressive. But I think a 3d round pick is the most they would give up. A third would get them to about 18. I personally would give up a second to get to about 14 for OJ Howard, but he'll probably be gone by then anyway.

With the draft so deep and with our multiple needs  
robbieballs2003 : 4/25/2017 6:21 am : link
I do not see a trade up at all. If there was any draft to trade back and aquire another second round pick this is it.

Hard to argue with your list but I would get rid of Mahomes and put in Bowser. Now, odds are that he is not available but I don't see King available either. I love Davis but Watt intrigues me especially since he can get bigger and play DE. I think if we stay put at 23 then the most likely pick is an edge rusher or LB like Davis.
Offense, not offensive  
Pete in VA : 4/25/2017 6:27 am : link
Always a mistake to reread your own posts after the fact.
RE: Offense, not offensive  
robbieballs2003 : 4/25/2017 6:28 am : link
In comment 13440849 Pete in VA said:
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Always a mistake to reread your own posts after the fact.


Haha, always especially when I type on my phone a lot.
Most likely here we go  
Tuckrule : 4/25/2017 6:39 am : link
Watt
Bowser
Davis
Lamp
Engram
Bolles  
Ira : 4/25/2017 6:42 am : link
Davis
Njoku
McDowell
Watt
I'll play  
KingBlue : 4/25/2017 6:45 am : link
Bolles
Robinson
Lamp
Davis
Njoku
Most likely top 5.  
GuzzaBlue : 4/25/2017 6:46 am : link
No trade up or down - not the Giants style. QBs going early will push talent to the backend. No need to give up resources to jump up in a talent filled draft.
1. Wormley - If he's there which I'm starting to doubt, I don't think they pass on the need and talent.
2. Bowser - They might think of him as their Floyd.
3. Davis LB - Injuries are a scare but size and athleticism are too much to pass up.
4. Cam Robinson - Again not sure if he makes it to 23, but would fit nice at RT or RG and could replace Fluker or Pugh next year.
5. Sleeper Pick Rivers DE Youngstown State - I owe this one to Dave TE. I knew about this guy, but was not sure which round until he mentioned a chance he could go Rd 1. I think the Giants are eyeing this guy for Rd 1 or 2.

I really hope they don't trade up. The draft is so talent heavy I feel like you would be depriving yourself of an extra depth position to move up where you could get the talent you want if you stay put. I also think a quarterback is a remote thrower in the first three rounds unless someone very high on their board drops. Too much positional talent and when you consider this team is a few positions away from being a top contender we can wait on the quarterback .
As of right now, here is what I think the Giants will do  
ZogZerg : 4/25/2017 6:49 am : link
OT - Garett Bolles
OT – Ryan Ramczk
LB – Jarrad Davis
OG – Forrest Lamp
LB - Haason Reddic
It seems like most years I hear about a lot of names linked to  
mattyblue : 4/25/2017 7:01 am : link
the Giants and it ends up being one of them. This year I guess from being busy I haven't really zoned in on five names I could give you. I do think that Mahones is going to be really good though. He impresses me greatly. But I am no Scout so I am not going to debate it. I don't think the Giants take him but I would be fine with it if they did. If I had to guess I would say one of the two tight ends if they fall some.
My Five  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 4/25/2017 7:12 am : link
1. Lamp, OT
2. Davis, LB
3. Watt, ER
4. Engram, TE/WR
5. Kevin King, CB/FS
overcorrection  
Dankbeerman : 4/25/2017 7:24 am : link
after wiffing on our top choices last year, smokescreen in full effect.

1. Robison
2. Lamp
3. Bolles
4. Ramzck
Tougher to gauge this year  
JonC : 4/25/2017 7:41 am : link
as the talent is red chip heavy and probably not much difference in value well into the second round. I hope to get some info ahead of the pick, per usual.

Bowser, McCaffrey, Watt, Lamp, Engram.
As Of Now, My Top 5 Are  
pa_giant_fan : 4/25/2017 7:42 am : link
LB Davis
OT Bolles
ER Bowser
ER Watt
OT Lamp
There are 3 positions where the Giants don't have a returning starter,  
Ivan15 : 4/25/2017 7:45 am : link
DT, MLB and WR, and 1 position where the Giants didn't have a clear cut starter, TE. DT is the only position where they haven't protected themselves somewhat yet through the roster or free agency.

I think the first 3 rounds have to be about those 4 positions (including a big WR/move TE to eventually replace Marshall) plus a RB or QB in round 3 if there is a player they really like there.

I don't see an early OT pick because someone (draftee or Flowers, and Hart, Jerry or Fluker) will be backups at the start of the season.

Giants #4 is essentially top of round 5. Anything goes in 5-7.
RE: overcorrection  
GuzzaBlue : 4/25/2017 7:49 am : link
In comment 13440873 Dankbeerman said:
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after wiffing on our top choices last year, smokescreen in full effect.

1. Robison
2. Lamp
3. Bolles
4. Ramzck



Apple and Sheppard was whiffing? I thought last year's draft was very good .
RE: RE: overcorrection  
GuzzaBlue : 4/25/2017 7:53 am : link
In comment 13440893 GuzzaBlue said:
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In comment 13440873 Dankbeerman said:


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after wiffing on our top choices last year, smokescreen in full effect.

1. Robison
2. Lamp
3. Bolles
4. Ramzck




Apple and Sheppard was whiffing? I thought last year's draft was very good .


Or did I misread you here? You mean on not trading up for Floyd or the RT
I think if Bolles is there  
Mr Brightside : 4/25/2017 7:53 am : link
he'll be the pick. I could also see a trade up for Howard if he slips to 18-20. After those two I think it's likely a LB like Davis, Cunningham, or Bowser.
. . . .  
jeff57 : 4/25/2017 7:55 am : link
Njoku
Davis
Mahomes
Bolles
Cunningham,
RE: RE: overcorrection  
BillT : 4/25/2017 7:56 am : link
In comment 13440893 GuzzaBlue said:
Quote:
In comment 13440873 Dankbeerman said:


Quote:


after wiffing on our top choices last year, smokescreen in full effect.

1. Robison
2. Lamp
3. Bolles
4. Ramzck




Apple and Sheppard was whiffing? I thought last year's draft was very good .

He's one of those people who still thinks that they wanted Floyd.
Based on Dave Te  
Rjanyg : 4/25/2017 8:08 am : link
1. Davis
2. Bowser
3. Lamp
4. Watt
5. Willis

I'm gonna add Njoku only because he has been my wish pick and if He or Cunningham are the pick I would be pretty happy as I think both will be solid pros.
IIRC...last time Giants drafted  
I Love Clams Casino : 4/25/2017 8:15 am : link
a player with a highly successful brother already in the league at the same position was Sinorice Moss.

Bad mojo....no to Watt......that's my technical analysis....haha ;)
Here  
AcidTest : 4/25/2017 8:25 am : link
are my five in order:

Bowser.
Davis.
Bolles.
Njoku.
Rivers.
RE: Most likely here we go  
mrvax : 4/25/2017 9:31 am : link
In comment 13440854 Tuckrule said:
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Watt
Bowser
Davis
Lamp
Engram


Me like this one.
RE: Offense, not offensive  
Beer Man : 4/25/2017 9:47 am : link
In comment 13440849 Pete in VA said:
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Always a mistake to reread your own posts after the fact.
Hmmm, not really that far from the truth. 8)
RE: RE: RE: overcorrection  
Gatorade Dunk : 4/25/2017 9:53 am : link
In comment 13440905 BillT said:
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In comment 13440893 GuzzaBlue said:


Quote:


In comment 13440873 Dankbeerman said:


Quote:


after wiffing on our top choices last year, smokescreen in full effect.

1. Robison
2. Lamp
3. Bolles
4. Ramzck




Apple and Sheppard was whiffing? I thought last year's draft was very good .


He's one of those people who still thinks that they wanted Floyd.

They're rumored to be in on several edge rushers who can play standing up this year too - that seems to confirm that Floyd was definitely a major target of theirs last year. I realize that Floyd is a good bit thinner than Bowser, Watt, etc., but they're not wildly different players. Especially not to the extent that you (or anyone else) can claim that the Giants' rumored interest in Floyd was false.
-  
Peppers : 4/25/2017 10:03 am : link
-OJ Howard
-Cam Robinson
-Chris Wormley
-Jordan Willis
-Taco Charlton
forgot about Taco, good pick  
JonC : 4/25/2017 10:13 am : link
also wonder if Wormley sneaks in there if all their other projected targets are gone.
Athletic LBs and Athletic TEs  
Jimmy Googs : 4/25/2017 10:22 am : link
find them...
Somebody highly rated is going to fall to the NYG:  
NBGblue : 4/25/2017 11:14 am : link
My guess is -

1. Reuben Foster
2. Dalvin Cook
3. O.J. Howard
4. Ryan Ramczk
5. Jordan Willis
RE: Somebody highly rated is going to fall to the NYG:  
GuzzaBlue : 4/25/2017 11:20 am : link
In comment 13441258 NBGblue said:
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My guess is -

1. Reuben Foster
2. Dalvin Cook
3. O.J. Howard
4. Ryan Ramczk
5. Jordan Willis


Completely agree, however you think the Giants would even think about Cook or Foster? At least in the first I'm not so sure.
Hmm  
Phil in LA : 4/25/2017 11:32 am : link
McCaffrey
Mahomes
Lamp
Davis
Jackson
Here are Vacchiano's  
jeff57 : 4/25/2017 12:05 pm : link
Bolles
Davis
Njoku
Harris
Cunningham
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