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Attempt at condensing insider info

Kevin in Annapolis : 4/25/2017 10:56 am
With some much info going around, I thought I would organize some of the draft rumblings from our insiders and Raanan, who seems to have the best pulse on the team of any of the beats. Not sure if anyone else will find it useful, but it has been fun and informative for me. Also, there is a lot of info over many threads, so please correct me if I am wrong or add anything I missed.
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Let’s start with Raanan. His top ten likely to be the pick from last week
1. Davis (Dave Te says Davis sees himself as a 3-4 LB)
2. Bolles (Dave Te says his OG Asiata made him look better than he really is)
3. Cam
4. Cunningham (Dave Te says he if soft)
5. Harris
6. Howard
7. McCaffrey (hitdog has confirmed we like him)
8. Reddick
9. Taco
10. Watson (hitdog has confirmed we like him)

Raanan will be making his pick for the Giants tonight on ESPN
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Dave Te has provided us with a ton of info. I have tried my best to capture who he thinks the Giants like and what round he thinks they like him in.
1. Lamp, Watt, Bowser, Davis Webb
2. Engram, Asiata, Engram, Shaheen, Jordan Willis, Rivers, Darkins, Kpassaglen, Dalvin Tomlinson
3. Walker, Hodge
4. Foreman, Golladay
5. Jordan or Jerod Evans
6. Grover Stewart
7. Adreaus Knape, Kyle Steiner
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BBI insider/asshat extraordinaire hitdog has dropped a few hints at who the Giants like in no particular order
• McCaffrey, Watson, Trubisky, Peppers, Njoku (is not sure they would take him at 23)
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JonC often gets info but has said he has nothing yet. Likes Bowser, McCaffrey, Watt, Lamp, Engram.
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ThatLimerickGuy was pretty good last year but has/has shared no info yet.
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Slade says Dennis Rodman to NK and Hankins to sign by noon tomorrow (JK)
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Sy56 while not an insider has provided BBI with excellent info. He has 40 total players with a Round 1 grade of 80 points or better (19 on offense and 21 on defense).
QB – 1
RB – 4
WR – 6
TE – 3
OT – 1
OG/C – 4
DE – 6
DT – 2
LB – 1
CB – 7
S - 5
Kevin  
JimNY56 : 4/25/2017 11:37 am : link
Like what you did!

Thanks
Nice work!  
Rudy5757 : 4/25/2017 12:02 pm : link
I just hope we get someone who helps us this year. We are in win now mode with Eli nearing the end.
Most of the beat writers  
Mr Brightside : 4/25/2017 12:09 pm : link
are projecting Davis at 23.
nice work, thanks!  
giants#1 : 4/25/2017 12:12 pm : link
especially with the condensing of Dave Te's info!
Another fine job  
section125 : 4/25/2017 12:17 pm : link
of organizing draft info. Thanks Kevin.
Thanks for the effort Kevin.  
Capt. Don : 4/25/2017 12:37 pm : link
Dynamite Slade reference.
That some sweet loaf info right there  
32_Razor : 4/25/2017 1:09 pm : link
Good job
Add Cam Robinson to the list of people Dave Te thinks the Giants like  
Milton : 4/25/2017 1:14 pm : link
He said it one of his earliest posts on the subject.
RE: nice work, thanks!  
Milton : 4/25/2017 1:17 pm : link
In comment 13441383 giants#1 said:
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especially with the condensing of Dave Te's info!
Except for the fact that he forgot about my man Robinson!
the qbs  
hitdog42 : 4/25/2017 1:22 pm : link
i mention just in reference to guys i know that are liked as in.... we like this guy as a player...

the position players i am more focused on for picks at this stage. you correctly mention the ones i have dropped in threads.

struggle to see a DB or DL in round 1- lets see....
RE: Add Cam Robinson to the list of people Dave Te thinks the Giants like  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/25/2017 1:23 pm : link
In comment 13441509 Milton said:
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He said it one of his earliest posts on the subject.


Thanks Milton, Dave Te has been prolific so I was sure I was going to miss some.

So Dave likes him in the 3rd round.... :)

I'm thinking of updating this on Thursday depending on how much more info comes out between now and then and I will add CamRob to the list.

Glad you guys like the post.
RE: Add Cam Robinson to the list of people Dave Te thinks the Giants like  
mrvax : 4/25/2017 1:23 pm : link
In comment 13441509 Milton said:
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He said it one of his earliest posts on the subject.


Absolutely not, Milton.
RE: the qbs  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/25/2017 1:24 pm : link
In comment 13441524 hitdog42 said:
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i mention just in reference to guys i know that are liked as in.... we like this guy as a player...

the position players i am more focused on for picks at this stage. you correctly mention the ones i have dropped in threads.

struggle to see a DB or DL in round 1- lets see....


Thanks hitdog!
Thank you!  
jpennyva : 4/25/2017 1:24 pm : link
This is very helpful - I appreciate your effort.

Thursday can't get here fast enough.
also feel  
hitdog42 : 4/25/2017 1:32 pm : link
this idea they don't like TE engram would be off base
Great work...  
Dunedin81 : 4/25/2017 1:35 pm : link
condensing a few weeks worth of stuff down to a readable thread.
I am hearing a lot of different things  
ThatLimerickGuy : 4/25/2017 1:35 pm : link
but picking at 23 it is hard to say that a team is focusing in on this guy or that guy. When you pick in the top 10 that is a little bit easier to do. The reality is that the Giants have a board and will pick the best guy left on their board. I've gotten some inkling about who may be higher or lower on that board than others, but 2 days before the draft information and misinformation is flying around like crazy.

I will get some info from my source on Thurs. am re: Giants and post it but I have already gotten some general info in the last 24 hours that may be helpful.

1. Peppers urine thing- teams not looking at it as a big deal and he will still go top 20 easily.

2. Reuben Foster- the issue with him is much more than a diluted sample. He has an attitude issue that came to a head at the combine and his shoulder injury is making a lot of teams remove him off of their rd. 1 boards.

3. QB's will not go in the order that everyone thinks. Throw these 4 in a hat, Trubitsky, Watson, Mahomes and Webb and each team has them ranked differently. I specifically heard that there was one team that had Watson as a legit rd 1 prospect and another that had him as a day 3 guy. Arm strength is apparently a huge concern among the scouts with him and some doubt he can throw the whole route tree. It's possible that only Trubitsky goes in the 1st and that Webb is the 2nd QB taken.

As I said, I will try to get some more Giants specific info on Thursday and post it.

RE: RE: Add Cam Robinson to the list of people Dave Te thinks the Giants like  
Milton : 4/25/2017 1:39 pm : link
In comment 13441527 mrvax said:
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In comment 13441509 Milton said:


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He said it one of his earliest posts on the subject.



Absolutely not, Milton.
I'm not sure what it is you are saying "absolutely not" to. Dave Te said it, so what part of that do you have a problem with?
I haven't yet found where Dave Te first said the Giants would like Cam  
Milton : 4/25/2017 1:55 pm : link
But here is a follow-up question (and answer) I had for him on the "Questions for Dave TE" thread....
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If Cam Robinson is still available when the Giants are on the clock, do they take him?
All depends - if Lamp is there & they take Cam? I come to Rutherford and put Jerry Reese over my knee.
I would also take Reddick or Bowser over Cam, if they slide. I would need a coin toss on him & Jarrad Davis, but would grab Cam over Willis
Good info  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/25/2017 1:57 pm : link
TLG

Good find Milton. There is so much info in the Q&A thread it is easy to miss things.
RE: Good info  
Milton : 4/25/2017 1:59 pm : link
In comment 13441593 Kevin in Annapolis said:
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TLG

Good find Milton. There is so much info in the Q&A thread it is easy to miss things.
No doubt!
RE: I haven't yet found where Dave Te first said the Giants would like Cam  
giants#1 : 4/25/2017 2:13 pm : link
In comment 13441588 Milton said:
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But here is a follow-up question (and answer) I had for him on the "Questions for Dave TE" thread....

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If Cam Robinson is still available when the Giants are on the clock, do they take him?
All depends - if Lamp is there & they take Cam? I come to Rutherford and put Jerry Reese over my knee.
I would also take Reddick or Bowser over Cam, if they slide. I would need a coin toss on him & Jarrad Davis, but would grab Cam over Willis



That doesn't say anything about the Giants liking Cam. That says Dave Te ranks those players roughly:

Lamp
Reddick/Bowser
Davis/Cam
Willis
Nice job, Kev!  
SHO'NUFF : 4/25/2017 2:18 pm : link
I don't know of any other site quite like BBI!

btw, the Dave-TE section  
SHO'NUFF : 4/25/2017 2:19 pm : link
has Engram twice.
RE: RE: I haven't yet found where Dave Te first said the Giants would like Cam  
Milton : 4/25/2017 2:36 pm : link
In comment 13441612 giants#1 said:
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In comment 13441588 Milton said:


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But here is a follow-up question (and answer) I had for him on the "Questions for Dave TE" thread....

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If Cam Robinson is still available when the Giants are on the clock, do they take him?
All depends - if Lamp is there & they take Cam? I come to Rutherford and put Jerry Reese over my knee.
I would also take Reddick or Bowser over Cam, if they slide. I would need a coin toss on him & Jarrad Davis, but would grab Cam over Willis





That doesn't say anything about the Giants liking Cam. That says Dave Te ranks those players roughly:

Lamp
Reddick/Bowser
Davis/Cam
Willis
Your cognitive dissonance is showing.
Must be Engram in the second  
jeff57 : 4/25/2017 2:39 pm : link
They like him twice.
FROM DAVE TE TO KEVIN IN ANNAPOLIS  
nflscouting : 4/25/2017 2:47 pm : link
Dude, impressive. Now, if I can get you into my garage to arrange everything in order like you did with my evaluations, I'd even let you drive my new vette Lingenfelter!
A few tidbits  
JonC : 4/25/2017 3:42 pm : link
I've heard Wormley, I've heard they like Bowser and the potential of Taco ... but the boom-pow name I was given today is Mahomes.
Thanks Dave  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/25/2017 4:36 pm : link
Good info Jon!
RE: A few tidbits  
Go Terps : 4/25/2017 4:38 pm : link
In comment 13441762 JonC said:
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I've heard Wormley, I've heard they like Bowser and the potential of Taco ... but the boom-pow name I was given today is Mahomes.


This is significant info. Even if Mahomes isn't the pick, we see where the organization's head is. Considering the expected quality of next year's QB class this is important.
Mahomes will make me very happy!!!  
jvm52106 : 4/25/2017 4:41 pm : link
Think Aaron Rodgers to Pack with Favre still playing.. Let him sit a year or two and see what a steal this turns out to be...


DRC could be used as trade material either to move up in 1 or up in 2 if another guy is there that they want. if Taco drops out of Rd 1 (assuming we drafted Mahomes) I see Gmen jumping back up to get him...
Love Wormley  
jayg5 : 4/25/2017 4:43 pm : link
...
I'd rather Mahomes, Trubisky, and Watson go ahead of the Giants...  
Milton : 4/25/2017 4:56 pm : link
Let the QB-needy teams take a gamble on greatnees, I still believe in Eli.
chatter is picking up on  
JonC : 9:03 am : link
McCaffrey
Thanks everyone for contributing to this tread  
I have updated my master document with the new info and corrections. I will plan on posting a new thread tomorrow morning morning with all the changes in the OP.
Guys keep on thing in mind  
When these guy share information things can change in an instant. When one of these guys say that there is talk about a certain player remember that there are several men involved in the decision making. There might be a couple of scouts or front office personnel who love player A but the Giants pass on him and choose player B. That doesn't mean the information was wrong it just means that either player B was liked more by the majority or the decision was made by a FO member higher up like Reese or Ross.

Please do not bash TLG, JonC, hitdog, etc if their rumors do not come to fruition.
McCaffery  
Jon in NYC : 12:43 pm : link
is a game changer imo. Explosive, versatile, productive.

Would be on board with Mahomes as well. This is a great year for us to take a QB with no massive needs -- or at least needs that can be filled via the draft.
RE: Mahomes will make me very happy!!!  
arcarsenal : 12:44 pm : link
In comment 13441844 jvm52106 said:
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Think Aaron Rodgers to Pack with Favre still playing.. Let him sit a year or two and see what a steal this turns out to be...


DRC could be used as trade material either to move up in 1 or up in 2 if another guy is there that they want. if Taco drops out of Rd 1 (assuming we drafted Mahomes) I see Gmen jumping back up to get him...


Trading DRC would make the 2017 Giants defense noticeably worse.
Would be fine with McCaffrey  
Dunedin81 : 12:44 pm : link
Just don't see him lasting.
This should be stickied  
blueblood : 12:46 pm : link
so all the info can go into one place..

I would be absolutely shocked in McCaffrey reaches the Giants.. I dont think there is anyway he reaches the Giants.
No inclusion of the Thrill Ride's posts?  
Missing out on the juiciest tidbits, BRO
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