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Gareon Conley accused of sexual assault.

ajr2456 : 4/25/2017 1:15 pm
The player from this mornings thread per TMZ.


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That article gives me a lot of reason  
Deej : 4/25/2017 1:18 pm : link
to be suspicious of these claims.
RE: That article gives me a lot of reason  
Anakim : 4/25/2017 1:20 pm : link
In comment 13441516 Deej said:
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to be suspicious of these claims.


Agreed. Lots of questions and suspicions.

"But according to a police report filed in Cleveland, a 23-year-old white female told police Conley violated her in a hotel suite bathroom at a Westin hotel on April 9.
According to the report, the accuser says she met Conley in an elevator and he asked her to have a foursome with another friend of his. The woman says she declined and offered to watch the other people have sex instead."


But as we know, an accusation in itself is damning even if the guy is innocent. I'm sure it'll hurt his draft stock
RE: That article gives me a lot of reason  
Giantfootball025 : 4/25/2017 1:23 pm : link
In comment 13441516 Deej said:
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to be suspicious of these claims.


Yeah the fact she said no to sex, but that she would watch others have sex? That seems a bit odd. If you felt threatened wouldn't any normal person just remove themselves from the situation entirely? I'm not saying this happened or didn't, but there needs to be stricter penalties for throwing around the "rape" word if someone is proven to have lied about it.
She's driving in a blazer like go speed racer but I aint  
32_Razor : 4/25/2017 1:24 pm : link
Gonna chase her
The article says the woman offered to watch the other people have sex?  
Wait..... what?

This is horrible timing for Conley. Even if he is innocent you figure he is going to fall.
Doesn't matter  
Jay in Toronto : 4/25/2017 2:27 pm : link
we have to teach our male children that just assume No means No.
Eagles were very interested in him  
jeff57 : 4/25/2017 2:29 pm : link
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Could be another La'el Collins situation  
jeff57 : 4/25/2017 2:30 pm : link
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You can't help some people.  
TheManUpstairs : 4/25/2017 2:31 pm : link
He may be as innocent as the driven snow. Could easily be; no doubt. But wouldn't you, at this moment in your life, keep it in your pants for THREE DAYS? THREE DAYS?
Accusations sound flimsy  
Kyle in NY : 4/25/2017 2:31 pm : link
But you just have to be smarter than this right before the biggest professional moment of your life. Easy for me to say, but don't put yourself anywhere near a situation like this where it could become your word against hers
It seems like  
allstarjim : 4/25/2017 2:33 pm : link
After the Tunsil draft day video last year, this is some sort of sick game for some people to damage these players about to cash in on their talent and hard work. I can't believe everything I'm seeing come out this week about misdeeds. There's something disturbing about it.

If the allegations are true, it's a terrible commentary about a total disregard for women, respect of others in general, and the law.

If they are mostly fabrications and gross exaggerations (which is what I suspect), it's a terrible commentary on society's youth that they would attempt to disparage someone's reputation and career before it gets started simply because they feel they can.

Unfortunately, I think we are going to hear more of this, including on draft day, and to be honest, it makes me sick.
Difficult for a team to pull the trigger right now...  
Dunedin81 : 4/25/2017 2:33 pm : link
I'd imagine. He may never be charged, but surveying the landscape right now that has to look pretty ----ing risky for a tem.
RE: You can't help some people.  
section125 : 4/25/2017 2:34 pm : link
In comment 13441644 TheManUpstairs said:
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He may be as innocent as the driven snow. Could easily be; no doubt. But wouldn't you, at this moment in your life, keep it in your pants for THREE DAYS? THREE DAYS?


How about just keep it in your pants, period. Doesn't do anybody any good to be arrested before or after the draft.

It really is simple, no means no.
Bad for the Giants  
jeff57 : 4/25/2017 2:36 pm : link
Conley would have gone before 23
It's possible  
Sy'56 : 4/25/2017 2:47 pm : link
he is going undrafted now.
Let this be a  
NYBEN1963 : 4/25/2017 2:52 pm : link
Lesson ...don't drink water or have sex during the draft season
Eagles were very interested in him  
In comment 13441640 jeff57 said:
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Yes, we were. I thought he was in their top 2 or so if available.

But, now? Who knows where he gets drafted and if the Eagles take him.

Teams are gonna try their hardest to get the "facts", but unless the results of the rape kit come back in time, then teams will be taking a big risk and I don't know if they can do that on the first 2 days.
I get that no means no  
Glover : 4/25/2017 3:24 pm : link
if what she alleges took place, but for her to say she was stripped of her dignity in a matter of minutes sounds strange. How about not going to random dudes hotel rooms you meet on the elevator to watch his buddy and his girl have sex. Like I said, I support no means no, but dont talk about your dignity after going to a random dudes hotel room to watch another couple have sex.
RE: RE: You can't help some people.  
chuckydee9 : 4/25/2017 3:45 pm : link
In comment 13441653 section125 said:
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In comment 13441644 TheManUpstairs said:


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He may be as innocent as the driven snow. Could easily be; no doubt. But wouldn't you, at this moment in your life, keep it in your pants for THREE DAYS? THREE DAYS?



How about just keep it in your pants, period. Doesn't do anybody any good to be arrested before or after the draft.

It really is simple, no means no.


Men have done a lot more stupid things than this for pussy.. Urge to have sex will always win out.. I do not blame the 20 something kid trying to get laid.. As long as he did not harass or rape the girl.. I think this is just the Bullshit NFL has started trying to play Judge and Jury.. Let the legal system take care of our rapist.. NFL is neither equipped nor skilled to do this.. Innocent players are getting punished just so they can be extorted.. La'el Collins was innocent and poor kid went from a early first round draft pick to UDFA..

It seems that  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 4/25/2017 4:09 pm : link
false rape accusations are far less common than actual rape. Yet every time this subject comes up the thread reads much like this one.

People find it easier to believe that a woman lied about rape than to believe that a man committed rape.

Her agreeing to watch people have sex doesn't mean she has given consent to have sex. It doesn't mean she wasn't raped. Her putting herself in what you perceive to be a bad situation doesn't mean she has given up her right to not be violated.

We have been conditioned to believe that is a woman's responsibility to prevent rape when we should be teaching our boys that no means no...Even if she is watching you have sex with someone else. Even if she is a stripper or promiscuous, or any of the other things that people seem to think deprive a woman of the right to say no, or to change her mind.

I often hear that it's easy for a woman to destroy a man's reputation with false accusations. I don't often hear that it is equally easy for a man to force himself on someone and then claim that she is lying to destroy him, it that it was consensual. Why do so many immediately jump to the former?

RE: Eagles were very interested in him  
njm : 4/25/2017 4:15 pm : link
In comment 13441717 Doug Pederson's Hair is Weird said:
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Teams are gonna try their hardest to get the "facts", but unless the results of the rape kit come back in time, then teams will be taking a big risk and I don't know if they can do that on the first 2 days.


Cleveland has the first pick on both the 2nd and 3rd day of the draft. Can you imagine how valuable either pick becomes if the rape kit and witnesses exonerate him after the 1st or 2nd day?

That being said, I wonder if this guy's Wonderlick broke 10. How stupid can you be. And as far a she goes, and no DOES mean no, I think her dignity left the building when she offered to go watch.
Moving up on the Dallas draft board  
Reale01 : 4/25/2017 4:23 pm : link
Part of the plan
RE: Moving up on the Dallas draft board  
spike : 4/25/2017 4:26 pm : link
In comment 13441818 Reale01 said:
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Part of the plan


JJ probably sent the women
RE: It seems that  
Deej : 4/25/2017 4:33 pm : link
In comment 13441805 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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false rape accusations are far less common than actual rape. Yet every time this subject comes up the thread reads much like this one.

People find it easier to believe that a woman lied about rape than to believe that a man committed rape.



Im not jumping to conclusions here. But she refused a police interview. Two other people who were in the room said she made it up. Yes, they were his friends. But it's obstruction of justice to lie to the police. There are other oddities in that story.

Given all that, particularly two witnesses who deny her story, yes, at this point I find it easier to believe that she was lying than to believe her story.

the CB class is strong  
msh : 4/25/2017 6:30 pm : link
this year to take a risk even if you feel he would be good would be reckless especially in round 1 prefer tre'davious white over him possibly adoree jackson too

or wait till later in the draft to take awuzie or allen in a 4th or 5th round pick, as they have the starters and could ease that pick in with nickel and special teams work til they were comfortable to use them more or incase of injury to one of the main 3
He said she said.  
Ira : 4/25/2017 6:50 pm : link
Who knows who's teliing the truth.
RE: RE: Eagles were very interested in him  
Gatorade Dunk : 4/25/2017 11:39 pm : link
In comment 13441810 njm said:
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In comment 13441717 Doug Pederson's Hair is Weird said:


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Teams are gonna try their hardest to get the "facts", but unless the results of the rape kit come back in time, then teams will be taking a big risk and I don't know if they can do that on the first 2 days.



Cleveland has the first pick on both the 2nd and 3rd day of the draft. Can you imagine how valuable either pick becomes if the rape kit and witnesses exonerate him after the 1st or 2nd day?

That being said, I wonder if this guy's Wonderlick broke 10. How stupid can you be. And as far a she goes, and no DOES mean no, I think her dignity left the building when she offered to go watch.

Were the misspelling of Wonderlic and the omission of the question mark intended to be ironic?
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