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Could Kizer be the pick?

AcidTest : 10:36 pm
I have said that I would not draft a QB this year, although I might take Seth Russell late on day three if he's healthy. But despite the ferocious opposition here, there is an argument to make for the Giants selecting Kizer at #23.

From Walter Football:

There are scouts around the league who feel that Kizer has the best skill set and most athletic upside of any quarterback in the 2017 NFL Draft. He had an inconsistent junior season, as he completed 59 percent of his passes for 2,925 yards with 26 touchdowns and nine interceptions. He also ran for seven touchdowns. His completion percentage was thrown off by playing a game in the midst of Hurricane Matthew and his receivers consistently dropping well-thrown passes. Kizer played better as a sophomore when he had more talent around him like a top-25 wide receiver in Will Fuller), a top-10 pick at left tackle in Ronnie Stanley, a second-round center in Nick Martin, and a third-round running back in C.J. Prosise. In 2015, Kizer completed 63 percent of his passes for 2,884 yards with 21 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. He picked up 520 yards with 10 scores on the ground.

Additional reasons:

(1) He doesn't need to play right now.
(2) He has all the physical requirements to play QB in the NFL, including mobility.
(3) He played at a major D1 school.
(4) The Giants likely won't have any chance at the QBs next year.
(5) Eli has two to three years left in all likelihood.
(6) Drafting a QB in the first round means the Giants have him for five years.
(7) The Giants don't have to trade picks to get him. So they won't have to do what the Rams and Eagles did to get Goff and Wentz.
(8) KIzer reminds me of a thinner, more mobile, version of Daunte Culpepper.
(9) There haven't been many rumors about the Giants being interested in him. They sent OC Mike Sullivan to his pro day, but not much else. They may be trying to prevent anyone from thinking they are interested.
(10) Mike Mayock says he has the highest ceiling of any of the QBs, and Reese likes those players.

I think the chance of this happening is maybe 10%, but remember that QBs get overdrafted. I just read a rumor that the 49ers are considering Mahomes at #2. Webb may be drafted in the first round. Peterman in the second. That same report from Walter Football says the Steelers are very interested in Kizer. It could happen.
I fucking hope not  
Anakim : 10:39 pm : link
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IF we were to take a QB at 23  
The_Boss : 10:40 pm : link
I'd prefer Webb. But that's a big IF. I'm more scared JR might go Bolles with better players still on the board.
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BleedBlue : 10:41 pm : link
jesus....talk of bolles and now kizer. i better go fucking reserve a new tv at best buy
If the Giants believe we can win it all with Eli.....  
George from PA : 10:55 pm : link
Then no way do we waste the first pick on a QB.

We must go for the title....With final pieces.


If the Giants are concern about Eli future...Then yes.
Please no  
PatersonPlank : 10:56 pm : link
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If the criteria..  
you laid out is the reason they would choose a QB, then they should grab one in the 4th or 5th round, not the first!
no  
blueblood : 11:24 pm : link
watson or mahomes maybe
Please no  
GiantsLaw : 11:41 pm : link
Nfm
Not at 23  
Section331 : 4/26/2017 1:22 am : link
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LOL  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/26/2017 2:00 am : link
no.
Kizer reminds me of Jay Cutler  
Milton : 4/26/2017 2:08 am : link
Quote:
“Name a college quarterback who goes into the game-plan meetings on Monday and throws his notes at the coaches,” Kizer said. “No one else game plans the way I do. No one else prepares the way I do. No one else knows football the way I do. No one else is as big as I am. No one else is as powerful a runner as I am. Pat Mahomes might throw the ball 80 yards and I can only throw the ball 72, but I guarantee he can’t throw an out route the way I can. No one else can do what I can do. And I’ve truly figured out in this process, if I can maximize all my potential in every aspect of the game – this is bold – I do have the ability to be the greatest quarterback to ever play. Imagine taking Brady’s intellect and Brady’s preparation and putting it on a guy with Cam Newton’s body.”

"He's a loser." - ( New Window )
I think  
santacruzom : 4/26/2017 3:21 am : link
we're more likely to draft Kiper.
Drafting a QB comes down to this:  
IIT : 4/26/2017 6:16 am : link
If the Giants are in "win now" mode, they draft a QB late, if at all.

If they are in "win later" mode, they draft a QB early.

IMO, the Giants are in win now mode, ergo, no fucking QB in round 1 so shut the fuck up with this shit already.
One of the top 5 QB's  
Carl in CT : 4/26/2017 6:27 am : link
Will be there in the second round. If that's the guy we want then get him there not in round 1.
BleedBlue and The Boss  
idinkido : 4/26/2017 6:33 am : link
You need to reread some of Reese's comments and keep in mind Dave TE's approval of how needs take priority over BPA in Reese's current thinking. So gentlemen I would suggest that you get Tums and no we are not drafting a QB with the first pick.
No  
ZogZerg : 4/26/2017 6:46 am : link
Giants aren't going QB at 23.
I hope no QB in any early round.  
Giantgator : 4/26/2017 6:55 am : link
And he would be the last of Watson, Trubisky, and Mahomes I'd want. Very immature and never won at ND. The Giants are close, let's add a couple of pieces through this draft and get the most out of Eli's last few years.
I think Kizer will be ok  
Rjanyg : 4/26/2017 7:49 am : link
Just not in round 1. He is not a first round QB. If we trade back in the first and pick up an early 2nd round pick in addition to our other picks I'm good with that.
RE: I fucking hope not  
Victor in CT : 4/26/2017 7:58 am : link
In comment 13442163 Anakim said:
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well put
I don't like Kizer  
Torrag : 4/26/2017 8:01 am : link
Don't like his interviews. Don't like his regression last year. In his own words the team made him better the year before. I'm a believer that elite QB's make the team better not the other way around and they certainly don't say the opposite of their supporting cast...even if it's true.
Your reasoning for #6 - having a rookie for 5 years  
Diver_Down : 4/26/2017 8:26 am : link
isn't true. Any 1st round rookie is on a 4 year contract with a 5th year option. If any rookie doesn't demonstrate clear competency at their position by the end of their 3rd year, the 5th year option won't be picked up. Especially true for a QB were the 5th year salary will be slightly lower than the franchise tag on a QB. No front office will guarantee the millions just so they can secure the player's rights.

So whether it is Kizer, Mahomes, Webb, et al., they only have 3 years to ensure they are in place to stick around for a 5th year or more in an extension. With the argument that Eli has 2-3 years left, when are the rookies going to get the opportunity prove they are worth sticking around? And don't mention the possibility of Eli being benched. If Eli is healthy, he is under center. Ownership will not allow a 1st contract HC to bench their 2-time SB MVP getting paid 15-20 mil/year for any of the players in this draft.
I like Kizer.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/26/2017 8:34 am : link
But he would have benefited from another season in college.
I'd doubt we go there in Round 1....  
BillKo : 4/26/2017 9:29 am : link
but it wouldn't surprise me anytime after that.
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