1.) Eli might have 3 years left and that's it. (Damn maybe don't draft a QB then and go for it all now?
Or play it long term.
Watson is cost controlled for 5 years as a 1st round pick. Earning low money years 1-4 with a nice bonus in year 5.
Eli leaves after 3 years.
Watson with 3 years grooming comes in and plays pretty well. Macadoo plays a nice system for him, defenses arent well versed in his play etc he's new.
Now he could be our Aaron Rodgers light and we keep him and extend him.
If he puts up a big year in Year 4 , year 1 as a starter due to all those factors , Reese can then decide , okay this is my Aaron Rodgers, Watson has become an elite QB, holy moly awesome! Or , okay he's about what we thought he would be, above average at best masked behind a nice system and lack of other teams knowing his game. The Giants could then go ahead and trade him as a HOT ASSET maybe even Garrapolo like and then in year 5 the Giants Trade Watson to move up in the draft or help them absorb the cost to move up in another deal and grab a top Talent if one exists that year.
Just a thought , could also light a raging fire under Elis ass
I hope we don't do this as this plan isn't a slam dunk
I hope Eli gives us 3 more great seasons
2. Every time Eli throws an INT we'll get a sideline shot of Watson. We'll have to deal with constant QB controversy
2. Every time Eli throws an INT we'll get a sideline shot of Watson. We'll have to deal with constant QB controversy
Definitely great points, I agree
So you think it's a good idea to have a "Kirk Cousins on the Hudson" problem?
Sorry I can't agree with your thought process.
If Giants believe their next QB is there, they will take him.
Happy Feet
game changer?
I am hoping a TE, LB, DE or CB first round that can contribute right away...
1) Very little wear and tear
2) Knows when to wear a helmet and when to wear a cap
3) Knows how to get to Giants Training facility on practice days and the Stadium on game days.
4) Has actually thrown a football in Met Life Stadium
5) Best of all, can be signed as a UDFA. That way we can use draft slots to build a sure Super Bowl dynasty around him.
6) Total surprise to the rest of the NFL. No team will leap frog us to steal away our target. The entire Division will be caught flatfooted. Even Little Bill will be flummoxed.
We have to keep this quiet. TC may take him.
In the end, no one knows..I never said that Eli WILL PLAY another 5-7 years, I said I BELIEVE HE WILL..
Secondly, not knowing the QBs in this draft at all, I still find it rather amusing how an ostensible meh list of QBs THIS YEAR as compared to next year's crop, GROWS in stature as we get closer to draft day..😎
There is a good case for Jesse Palmer.
7. Knows how to hold a clip board.....he will need some training to transition to a tablet, though....
Maybe, just maybe, the Front Office is more worried about continued decline than they are confident in a bounce-back season...
Maybe, just maybe, the Front Office is more worried about continued decline than they are confident in a bounce-back season...
If you have Game Pass, watch the weekly Coach's tape..You will see that Eli hasn't lost much, if anything..Watch the push up the middle forcing Eli out of his comfort zone..That more than anything(in addition to zero running game), contributed to Eli's "down year." He's thrown stupid INTs since 2004..I learned far more from the Game Pass coach's tape than watching on TV, even with slo-mo review..Far more
While obviously never a scrambler, he was always good at navigating and wiggling around a pocket to grab an extra second or two. But last season it was way more of just throwing it immediately into the ground or at a nearby target's feet.
The downfield throws were very troubling, missing both long & short way too often. Maybe a sign of guy trying to use more arm strength than legs, and the arm isn't quite there any more.
And I am an Eli fan...
While obviously never a scrambler, he was always good at navigating and wiggling around a pocket to grab an extra second or two. But last season it was way more of just throwing it immediately into the ground or at a nearby target's feet.
The downfield throws were very troubling, missing both long & short way too often. Maybe a sign of guy trying to use more arm strength than legs, and the arm isn't quite there any more.
And I am an Eli fan...
Certainly, you can be proven correct, but Eli was under siege all year..Small sample size, but remember how mediocre Brady looked against us in SB XLII for 3 1/2 quarters until Spags (he admitted he erred there)for that final Pats TD drive took the pedal off the metal? Extrapolate that over an entire season and that's what I saw from Eli last year..Perhaps I'm subjective objective, but that's how I saw it..Of course, if the OL doesn't improve its play, if the Running game stays meh, he might only last another 2 years, as I see it..
It has archived over 5 seasons of games league-wise(including all playoff games and SBs), no commercials whether you watch the full game or the 35 minute every play composite version..
I agree with Jon C. If it's a QB, it will be Mahomes, since Trubisky won't get down to 23.
Whether a QB worthy of picking is on the board when the Giants make a selection.
a QB being worthy of picking is the main consideration. If the answer is no, then don't pick one, even if Eli is hit by a bus tonight and our starting QB is Sanchez.
But, IF you think there's a QB worthy, pick him, even if you think Eli has 3 years left. You do NOT build a team around a 2-3 year window, when you have an opportunity to make it a 10 year window.
Hopefully the Cardinals or Saints do the Giants a favor and take him first. Or maybe the Texans can even sneak in and trade up for him.
I agree with Jon C. If it's a QB, it will be Mahomes, since Trubisky won't get down to 23.
Mahomes won't get to #23 either. If it's a QB at #23, it's either Kizer or Webb, maybe Watson. I vote not on all three, and also wouldn't take Mahomes if he someone slipped that far.
I do like Webb a lot, but not in the 1st.
And I think the Giants don't care about a QB who makes most of his plays on the run or outside the pocket.
Maybe if someone they like drops to round 2, they could consider him. But I don't think they squander any of the 3 premium picks on a QB.
Interesting. I'd be kind of excited about that pick, as I think that both he and Trubisky could turn into something special (or flame out, but I'm gonna take the positive viewpoint here).
To me, it doesn't matter if next year is the greatest ever QB class. What if we pick 23 or lower and what can we get with that pick? Is a QB @23 this year worse than next?
If I understand the process, the Giants are going to evaluate players across years, a great QB class next year does not mean a great QB drops. So if they see a value in a QB at 23 this year...so be it.
Kicking the can for better crop of players comes with risk as well...
To me, it doesn't matter if next year is the greatest ever QB class. What if we pick 23 or lower and what can we get with that pick? Is a QB @23 this year worse than next?
If I understand the process, the Giants are going to evaluate players across years, a great QB class next year does not mean a great QB drops. So if they see a value in a QB at 23 this year...so be it.
Its not so much the class as it Eli is still playing and healthy and riding the bench for anymore than a year will be a waste. When you can get an impact player who can help take our offense or defense to the next level, it trumps riding the pine to hopefully be Eli's successor (and there's no guarantee whoever we take will even pan out at QB) in however many years it will be down the line (each year is 1 year less we'd pay on the rookie scale for a starting QB).
Kicking the can for better crop of players comes with risk as well...
This is true.