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Raanan (again) - Giants will NOT be drafting Njoku

jlukes : 4/26/2017 8:30 am
Someone one twitter, for the thousanth time, asked about the Giants drafting Njoku and why did Jordan pick Bolles instead of Njoku in the ESPN mock draft

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@JordanRaanan y did u mock Bolles last night? G-men said pick would b on talent and Njouku still on the board. Thy dont like the o-line clas



Raanan responsed pretty matter-of-fact

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Jordan Raanan& #8207;Verified account @JordanRaanan
Explanation coming in 5 minutes. Just b/c OL class not great doesn't mean they can't like some. And b/c they're not drafting Njoku. #Giants
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RE: RE: The fact that Raanan is so  
81_Great_Dane : 4/26/2017 1:15 pm : link
In comment 13442348 Beer Man said:
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In comment 13442332 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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adamant about Njoku not being the man @ 23 says something.


Not to mention the Giants canceled Njoku team visit last minute (which to date I have read nothing that says why)
I saw or heard something that said there was a scheduling snafu and he was scheduled for the Jets at the same time. Not sure I buy it -- if it was just that, why not reschedule?
FWIW  
Anakim : 4/26/2017 10:51 pm : link
Giants Daily‏
@NYGDaily

Draft Rumor: Per @nfldraftscout, New York Giants would "jump at the chance" to draft Miami TE David Njoku.
RE: FWIW  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/26/2017 10:58 pm : link
In comment 13444029 Anakim said:
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Giants Daily‏
@NYGDaily

Draft Rumor: Per @nfldraftscout, New York Giants would "jump at the chance" to draft Miami TE David Njoku.


Maybe they're trying to do a better job of keeping their preferences under wraps than they did last year.
RE: RE: Bullcrap Keith. Both Hargreaves and Decker were discussed alot  
djm : 4/26/2017 11:04 pm : link
In comment 13442444 Keith said:
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In comment 13442431 Jimmy Googs said:


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by beats, and both went later...



Discussed by who? BBI'ers? The Giants expressed interest in Floyd and Conklin who were both taken right before them.


Says who? 4 of the 23 outlets said so?

No one really know anything right now. No one really knew anything last year. Anyone can connect the dots and report inside info when all it really is is guesswork based on analysis. You guys have to know that.

For every real leak there are fake leaks. Even if some of the leaks were true there is too much misinformation. The truth gets lost in the haze. Dozens of reporters have confirmed that they are lied to over and over this time of year.
RE: FWIW  
djm : 4/26/2017 11:06 pm : link
In comment 13444029 Anakim said:
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Giants Daily‏
@NYGDaily

Draft Rumor: Per @nfldraftscout, New York Giants would "jump at the chance" to draft Miami TE David Njoku.


Lol. I rest my case.

It's lying season.
This could be Reese getting back at Raanan  
DennyInDenville : 4/26/2017 11:11 pm : link
For coming at him like 2 years ago pretty hard, maybe a year ago.

Reese blew it off but maybe now he's playing his card and leaking this to Raanan as a nice smoke cloud
RE: Let's not forget  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/26/2017 11:53 pm : link
In comment 13442909 Mike from Ohio said:
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that while the Giants do clearly prefer drafting premium positions in the first round, that does not mean they will not stray from that. David Wilson was a first round pick from this front office.

Yes, I know he was the last pick in the first round, but I am trying to illustrate that while it is unlikely the Giants don't take a premium position, it is not some sacrosanct rule they follow.


Point taken, Flowers represents breaking that pattern too, but even then he checked the size/measurables chart for a prototype LT.

And picking at the back of the round gives a good bit more leeway. It's why I'm not dismissing it entirely, but I still don't think it makes sense given the needs they have at those positions we know they value highly.
My question,  
chopperhatch : 4/27/2017 12:20 am : link
Is why would the Giants leak who they are NOT drafting to reportersif not disinformation? What fucking good does this do them? Jordan, if you're reading this, I am not calling you a liar, but obv you got permission to have this on the record. Why on Earth would the Giants want you to report on who they are or are not taking? I am serious with the question...what good does it do?

The idea that they would let this slip after what happened last year is so fucking Mickey Mouse and stupid that I almost don't believe it.

Please somebody help me with this
RE: RE: there are questions on whether they like a guy  
One Man Thrill Ride : 4/27/2017 12:32 am : link
In comment 13442891 JordanRaanan said:
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In comment 13442618 hitdog42 said:


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and whether they like him for 23.
jordan probably right on the latter. doesnt mean they dont like him (and the 3 TEs).



You are correct on this. I'm not saying they don't like them at all. I mean they won't take em at 23 unless it's Howard.


Jordan.

Thrill Ride here. Still down in the trenches defending your work. Each year, your sources have pretty sharp intel. Keep doing what youre doing and don't let the NARPs drag you down!!

The Thrill Ride hears his own whispers and agrees about Njoku not being a complete enough TE to earn the 23rd pick.

Unless the stars align and Howard falls, Thrill narrows it to Jarrad Davis (your #1 likeliest), Adoree (still insist he's on our radar big-time), and Bolles (seemingly a necessity pick here but evidently they do like him).

If I'm right, we should exchange emails and totally hang out together right now.

-- T.Ride
RE: My question,  
djm : 4/27/2017 10:14 am : link
In comment 13444085 chopperhatch said:
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Is why would the Giants leak who they are NOT drafting to reportersif not disinformation? What fucking good does this do them? Jordan, if you're reading this, I am not calling you a liar, but obv you got permission to have this on the record. Why on Earth would the Giants want you to report on who they are or are not taking? I am serious with the question...what good does it do?

The idea that they would let this slip after what happened last year is so fucking Mickey Mouse and stupid that I almost don't believe it.

Please somebody help me with this


You can't understand why teams leak fake draft interest?

If the Giants leak 5 different players to one batch of reporters and 5 more to another batch of reporters...mission accomplished, no one really knows who the Giants pick.

I can't believe how confounding this thing is. It shouldn't be. Every single year we go through the same process. Local reporters all sling different names around. 4-5 might get the first round right. 4-5 don't.

If you were running a team and draft how would you handle the local media? Do you really think Reese is telling any of these writers the truth? Even if some scout or personnel guy leaked the truth, it's lost within the haze of lies. It's impossible to tell truth from fiction.

i'm not knocking Jordan or any of the writers  
djm : 4/27/2017 10:18 am : link
they are doing their job. But how on earth do you know that Jordan "got permission to release this info?" What info?

Where does Jordan say "I have spoken to the Giants and they confirmed they won't draft Njoku?" ----nowhere did Jordan say that. He merely stated his opinion. It's an opinion that is rooted in research some sources, but there is nothing concrete here.

It's a writers opinion.
the OL class may not be great  
msh : 4/27/2017 12:24 pm : link
but that OL is holding them back they need to protect eli more than ever and get more out of their running game so bolles,lamp and ramzchk need to at least be considered at 23
or garcia in the 2nd

couple of others could be good later rounds where i hope they find someone to knock jerry into a backup role finally a OG with possible RT options as neither fluker or hart look to be the answer possibly move pugh out to OT and slot hart or the draft pick in at OG? they need to fix the OL even with the poor draft class they need to do something about it

even if you like another player or position better or dont rate them highly enough i can agree with that but they badly need to upgrade the OL if they plan going deeper into the playoffs this year and not getting eli killed by his OL

TE i would hope is in the mix roaming the middle of the field with obj,shepard,vereen and marshall in that line up a threat TE could open things up for the outside WR,improve the redzone scoring potential and drag that safety out the box to relieve some pressure on the run game. guys i personally like for that would njoku,engram and shaheen

hankins loss pushes the need at DT up to anywhere between 2-4 rounds,a deep CB class and the continued mutterings about DRC means i can see CB being addressed earlier than many fans think as well round 3 maybe def before the 6th

i would like blount but smith towards the end of the draft looks like a good alternative also,ideally sign blount and draft smith starter and develop the future starter there as well
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