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question on Bolles

Andy in Boston : 4/26/2017 9:37 am
he's listed at 297 lbs.
Does he have the frame to add weight?

Guessing he would be at 305+ on opening day?
Scout on Bolles  
Big Rick in FL : 4/26/2017 9:40 am : link
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"Most athletic offensive lineman I've done since I took over this area of the country. He's also mean on the field, which you love. I'm projecting him to get stronger once he locks into an NFL strength-and-conditioning program. He's underdeveloped right now. What you see isn't what you are going to ultimately get, in my opinion." -- West area scout for NFC team
RE: Scout on Bolles  
Andy in Boston : 4/26/2017 9:41 am : link
In comment 13442461 Big Rick in FL said:
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"Most athletic offensive lineman I've done since I took over this area of the country. He's also mean on the field, which you love. I'm projecting him to get stronger once he locks into an NFL strength-and-conditioning program. He's underdeveloped right now. What you see isn't what you are going to ultimately get, in my opinion." -- West area scout for NFC team


yeah I saw that. Tyron Smith was 285 lbs when he came into the league.

He reminds me of Pugh, who it could be said is still the best Tackle  
PatersonPlank : 4/26/2017 9:42 am : link
on our roster. Pugh added at least 10 pounds
definitely  
JonC : 4/26/2017 9:43 am : link
the problem with Bolles is age and you might be picking a prospect with a lower ceiling than EF.
My concern is he is  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 4/26/2017 9:46 am : link
25 years old. How much more mature physically do you think he is going to get? How much more muscle can he put on his frame that isn't already there?
BigBlueDownTheShore  
Big Rick in FL : 4/26/2017 9:49 am : link
Probably add around 10 pounds in an NFL weight training program. The guy is a good player. Not sure why people don't like him. Our very own Sy compared him to Joe Staley. I know I'd be ecstatic with a player similar to Staley at 23 overall.
My sense is that BBI is way more concerned about his age than the  
PatersonPlank : 4/26/2017 9:51 am : link
NFL teams. Why can't a 25 year old add strength and weight? Is the 24 ok, is there a magic age of 22? People bash the Giants for taking Flowers too young, and now Bolles too old?
the age is a concern  
UConn4523 : 4/26/2017 9:52 am : link
but if the Giants were that worried about it, he wouldn't be considered. I don't love the pick, but I'd be on board if that's what we chose to do.

We can use more meanness and hopefully his character concerns are a thing of the past.
Guy had a 9 wonderlic  
ryanmkeane : 4/26/2017 9:54 am : link
if you hear him speak, just doesn't seem to be all there. That being said, Landon Collins isn't the brightest bulb either.
My concern with his age...  
Capt. Don : 4/26/2017 9:57 am : link
is not that we wont have him long enough but that there is a natural strength development in any man's early 20s where you go from "boy strong" to "man strong."

Bolles has almost certainly peaked in terms of his natural strength.
In isolation  
bigbluehoya : 4/26/2017 9:57 am : link
I can live with a guy who is already 25.

I can also live with a guy that still has some development to do physically.

I don't know if I can live with a guy who is already 25 and still needs to develop physically.
He's got thosed 3%"+ arms, and I think he can add 15 pounds.  
yatqb : 4/26/2017 10:00 am : link
Would I be happy with him at 23? I guess so, but a lot of that has to do with faith in Reese in the early rounds.

And then we have to wonder whether Flowers can play RT or RG, so there's an additional concern.
RE: He's got thosed 3%  
Big Rick in FL : 4/26/2017 10:03 am : link
In comment 13442529 yatqb said:
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Would I be happy with him at 23? I guess so, but a lot of that has to do with faith in Reese in the early rounds.

And then we have to wonder whether Flowers can play RT or RG, so there's an additional concern.


Our RG & RT suck anyway. So I don't think it's really a concern 😀
should say 35"+ arms.  
yatqb : 4/26/2017 10:13 am : link
Heck of a typist here!
What I'm not  
ryanmkeane : 4/26/2017 10:14 am : link
that thrilled about is...let's say we take Bolles. Does he start day 1 at left tackle? Probably not. That would mean he's either starting at RT (which might actually be fine) or on the bench, with Jerry and Fluker on the right side.

So it's either Flowers-Pugh-Richburg-Fluker-Bolles OR

Flowers-Pugh-Richburg-Jerry-Fluker with Bolles competing at either side with a possible chance he starts at LT.

I know the draft isn't for the short term, but with Eli's window, drafting a OL that can't come in and start right away (a guy like Lamp for example can immediately start at RG) would be a big mistake.
Tyron Smith  
Marty866b : 4/26/2017 10:16 am : link
Was 20 years old when he was drafted and you can't compare the two with Smith being WAY more athletic.
I suppose we will find out how much the Giants value Wonderlic scores  
Ivan15 : 4/26/2017 10:17 am : link
Was Bolles on a mission? If he was, I doubt he worked out much except for riding his bicycle.
RE: Guy had a 9 wonderlic  
Andy in Boston : 4/26/2017 10:20 am : link
In comment 13442514 ryanmkeane said:
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if you hear him speak, just doesn't seem to be all there. That being said, Landon Collins isn't the brightest bulb either.


I watched his 15 minute combine interview with the reporters and I thought he was articulate, motivated and humble.
RE: Tyron Smith  
Andy in Boston : 4/26/2017 10:21 am : link
In comment 13442567 Marty866b said:
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Was 20 years old when he was drafted and you can't compare the two with Smith being WAY more athletic.


Marty - am only comparing the weight gain. Not the 2 players. Smith is probably the best LT in football.
You're picking at 23  
Rflairr : 4/26/2017 11:06 am : link
Not top 15. If this guy is the pick, you can't go crazy about it. Unless he's picked over some better talent that has unexpectedly dropped
RE: RE: Guy had a 9 wonderlic  
adamg : 4/26/2017 12:00 pm : link
In comment 13442584 Andy in Boston said:
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In comment 13442514 ryanmkeane said:


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if you hear him speak, just doesn't seem to be all there. That being said, Landon Collins isn't the brightest bulb either.



I watched his 15 minute combine interview with the reporters and I thought he was articulate, motivated and humble.


Lol. I watched that too. It sounded like the guy knew the three answers he memorized. He wouldn't be drafted for his brain imo. He'd be drafted because he's a sociopath who found the appropriate outlet.

All that said, I'd like the pick. Richburg is already our captain up front. We don't need math PhDs on our line.
You simply can't pick someone  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/26/2017 12:03 pm : link
with that haircut at 23. It shows bad decision making
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