Bob Glauber& #8207; @BobGlauber
Wisconsin tackle Ryan Ramczyk said Giants have expressed interest. He met with team and was imprenssed with coaches.
10:24 AM · Apr 26, 2017
I think that he and Bolles have comparable skills, but that Ramczyk plays with more strength, balance and leverage than Bolles. He seems like more of a finished product even with only one year of D1 ball.
how fans can speak with such authority on the merits of these draft picks. Opinions I understand, definitive statements as to a players ability not so much.
Not a criticism, but just a curiosity as to where these beliefs come from. Is it film study or is it a conglomeration of opinions of others?
I admit, I have opinions about players and at times formulate an impression on a draft pick. But my impressions are based more on what the people who do this for a living have to state about the pick, rather than my own knowledge.
The concept of remote throwing. Is that more based on disappointment that a player you wanted was still there, or is it actually based on the belief that you the fan know more than the people paid to do this for a living.
Again, not a criticism, anticipating and hoping for certain players is fun to do, just curious.
how fans can speak with such authority on the merits of these draft picks. Opinions I understand, definitive statements as to a players ability not so much.
Not a criticism, but just a curiosity as to where these beliefs come from. Is it film study or is it a conglomeration of opinions of others?
I admit, I have opinions about players and at times formulate an impression on a draft pick. But my impressions are based more on what the people who do this for a living have to state about the pick, rather than my own knowledge.
The concept of remote throwing. Is that more based on disappointment that a player you wanted was still there, or is it actually based on the belief that you the fan know more than the people paid to do this for a living.
Again, not a criticism, anticipating and hoping for certain players is fun to do, just curious.
For me, I kinda look at who would have the biggest chance to actually start this year. Of all the OL in the draft I think Lamp has the highest chance of starting, then Robinson. All the others I think will be a lateral move with the players on the roster. This comes from youtube video and scouting reports and actually watching some the games over the last couple of falls.
I still like Njoku in round 1 but from what Jordan is stating NYG is not going to pick him. So I think the pick will be between, Davis, Lamp, Bowser, Cunningham, Watt, Willis.
If any player has a "diluted sample," or any pattern of off-field knuckleheadedness, or -- in Ramczyk's case -- any exisiting injury or rehab script that means they are not presently healthy...
No way they take him. This is a risk averse team in round 1. Ramcyzk came out of nowhere to play one year, and right now he can't work. Too much risk.
If any player has a "diluted sample," or any pattern of off-field knuckleheadedness, or -- in Ramczyk's case -- any exisiting injury or rehab script that means they are not presently healthy...
No way they take him. This is a risk averse team in round 1. Ramcyzk came out of nowhere to play one year, and right now he can't work. Too much risk.
^This. I'd be stunned if he was the pick. Only a QB would surprise me more.
Ramzyck might be worth the risk, considering the degree of need we have at tackle.. If we take OL at 23 i hope its Lamp or this guy.. Bolles and Robinson are becoming more and more remote throwers by the hour.
Ramzyck might be worth the risk, considering the degree of need we have at tackle.. If we take OL at 23 i hope its Lamp or this guy.. Bolles and Robinson are becoming more and more remote throwers by the hour.
Same here, I hope we get either Lamp or him.. I'd prefer Lamp since there is no injury concern and looking at the fact that there is very little arm length difference between Joe Thomas and Lamp.. I think he should be fine as a OT.. Keep Fluker at RT since he is better there than RG and try Flowers at RG.. if Flowers fails there then lets replace him.. 2 seasons of Eli's prime have been wasted on trying to bring in an unfinished product into the NFL..
how fans can speak with such authority on the merits of these draft picks. Opinions I understand, definitive statements as to a players ability not so much.
Not a criticism, but just a curiosity as to where these beliefs come from. Is it film study or is it a conglomeration of opinions of others?
I admit, I have opinions about players and at times formulate an impression on a draft pick. But my impressions are based more on what the people who do this for a living have to state about the pick, rather than my own knowledge.
The concept of remote throwing. Is that more based on disappointment that a player you wanted was still there, or is it actually based on the belief that you the fan know more than the people paid to do this for a living.
Again, not a criticism, anticipating and hoping for certain players is fun to do, just curious.
+1000
I say this every year. We all have opinions and we all form our own take on players and/or decisions. In the end, whether the Giants ended up making the right choice or not, it was done with a level of research, scouting, diligence and deliberation that none of us outside of Dave Te, Sy or Colin at GBN can really say much about. So when I see people make these definitive statements and use buzzwords like watching "tape" or how this player "flashed" and "sleeper" etc...I just find it rather amusing.
Ramzyck might be worth the risk, considering the degree of need we have at tackle.. If we take OL at 23 i hope its Lamp or this guy.. Bolles and Robinson are becoming more and more remote throwers by the hour.
Same here, I hope we get either Lamp or him.. I'd prefer Lamp since there is no injury concern and looking at the fact that there is very little arm length difference between Joe Thomas and Lamp.. I think he should be fine as a OT.. Keep Fluker at RT since he is better there than RG and try Flowers at RG.. if Flowers fails there then lets replace him.. 2 seasons of Eli's prime have been wasted on trying to bring in an unfinished product into the NFL..
Ramzyc, degenerative hip. I have a back fractures and degenerative bone disease, that doesn't get better guys, it gets worse. No cure and lots of pain. This guy is going to be hurt constantly. No thanks. Both polian and mcshay, didn't like any of the oline picks in ESPN. Draft Last night. Says none worth first Rd pick.
Ramzyc, degenerative hip. I have a back fractures and degenerative bone disease, that doesn't get better guys, it gets worse. No cure and lots of pain. This guy is going to be hurt constantly. No thanks. Both polian and mcshay, didn't like any of the oline picks in ESPN. Draft Last night. Says none worth first Rd pick.
Not an ESPN fan, but I agree with that assessment. None of these guys would sniff the first round any other year.
If you take Rammer at 23 you are leaving talent on the board.
is that hip labral tears are often associated with certain anatomical structures being shaped a certain way. Let me explain.
The hip, like the shoulder, is a ball and socket joint, where the head of the femur fits into the acetabulum(socket) of the pelvis. While the shoulder is one of the most mobile joints in the body, the hip is a much more stable joint, due mainly to the fact that the acetabulum is a much deeper socket than the glenoid fossa (socket), found on the scapula (shoulder blade).
Where most shoulder labral tears are usually due to damage to or subluxation of the joint as a result of the joint's instability, that is not the case for the hip.
The thing with bodies is that everyones' are different, and while that may seem fairly obvious, I'm speaking more about the small anatomical differences seen in bone structure that has an effect on things like shoulder and hip impingement.
Some individuals may have hips that are more prone to impingement, which may lead to labral tears. The rim of the socket may overhang more in some people than it does in others. This might be due to either the structure of the bone itself or the labrum. As the hip flexes, the edge of the socket and labrum get pinched by the femur.
Other individuals may have femoral heads that are larger or shaped differently, leading to impingement or a femoral head that does not fit quite right in its socket.
I would be worried that his hip is something that is being caused by something anatomical rather than due to an acute trauma, instability, or muscle imbalance. One is something you can change, the other, you're kinda stuck with. Not saying that is certainly the case for him, but it is something to think about.
I have zero doubt Ramczyk could be a better LT than Flowers right away.
Not a criticism, but just a curiosity as to where these beliefs come from. Is it film study or is it a conglomeration of opinions of others?
I admit, I have opinions about players and at times formulate an impression on a draft pick. But my impressions are based more on what the people who do this for a living have to state about the pick, rather than my own knowledge.
The concept of remote throwing. Is that more based on disappointment that a player you wanted was still there, or is it actually based on the belief that you the fan know more than the people paid to do this for a living.
Again, not a criticism, anticipating and hoping for certain players is fun to do, just curious.
Not a criticism, but just a curiosity as to where these beliefs come from. Is it film study or is it a conglomeration of opinions of others?
I admit, I have opinions about players and at times formulate an impression on a draft pick. But my impressions are based more on what the people who do this for a living have to state about the pick, rather than my own knowledge.
The concept of remote throwing. Is that more based on disappointment that a player you wanted was still there, or is it actually based on the belief that you the fan know more than the people paid to do this for a living.
Again, not a criticism, anticipating and hoping for certain players is fun to do, just curious.
For me, I kinda look at who would have the biggest chance to actually start this year. Of all the OL in the draft I think Lamp has the highest chance of starting, then Robinson. All the others I think will be a lateral move with the players on the roster. This comes from youtube video and scouting reports and actually watching some the games over the last couple of falls.
I still like Njoku in round 1 but from what Jordan is stating NYG is not going to pick him. So I think the pick will be between, Davis, Lamp, Bowser, Cunningham, Watt, Willis.
No way they take him. This is a risk averse team in round 1. Ramcyzk came out of nowhere to play one year, and right now he can't work. Too much risk.
No way they take him. This is a risk averse team in round 1. Ramcyzk came out of nowhere to play one year, and right now he can't work. Too much risk.
^This. I'd be stunned if he was the pick. Only a QB would surprise me more.
Hitdog any chance you'll give us a top 5 for 23? 😀
Same here, I hope we get either Lamp or him.. I'd prefer Lamp since there is no injury concern and looking at the fact that there is very little arm length difference between Joe Thomas and Lamp.. I think he should be fine as a OT.. Keep Fluker at RT since he is better there than RG and try Flowers at RG.. if Flowers fails there then lets replace him.. 2 seasons of Eli's prime have been wasted on trying to bring in an unfinished product into the NFL..
Not a criticism, but just a curiosity as to where these beliefs come from. Is it film study or is it a conglomeration of opinions of others?
I admit, I have opinions about players and at times formulate an impression on a draft pick. But my impressions are based more on what the people who do this for a living have to state about the pick, rather than my own knowledge.
The concept of remote throwing. Is that more based on disappointment that a player you wanted was still there, or is it actually based on the belief that you the fan know more than the people paid to do this for a living.
Again, not a criticism, anticipating and hoping for certain players is fun to do, just curious.
+1000
I say this every year. We all have opinions and we all form our own take on players and/or decisions. In the end, whether the Giants ended up making the right choice or not, it was done with a level of research, scouting, diligence and deliberation that none of us outside of Dave Te, Sy or Colin at GBN can really say much about. So when I see people make these definitive statements and use buzzwords like watching "tape" or how this player "flashed" and "sleeper" etc...I just find it rather amusing.
If he's the pick, obviously dependent on who is there of course, it says a lot about this man's power in the front office.
Same here, I hope we get either Lamp or him.. I'd prefer Lamp since there is no injury concern and looking at the fact that there is very little arm length difference between Joe Thomas and Lamp.. I think he should be fine as a OT.. Keep Fluker at RT since he is better there than RG and try Flowers at RG.. if Flowers fails there then lets replace him.. 2 seasons of Eli's prime have been wasted on trying to bring in an unfinished product into the NFL..
Not an ESPN fan, but I agree with that assessment. None of these guys would sniff the first round any other year.
If you take Rammer at 23 you are leaving talent on the board.
The hip, like the shoulder, is a ball and socket joint, where the head of the femur fits into the acetabulum(socket) of the pelvis. While the shoulder is one of the most mobile joints in the body, the hip is a much more stable joint, due mainly to the fact that the acetabulum is a much deeper socket than the glenoid fossa (socket), found on the scapula (shoulder blade).
Where most shoulder labral tears are usually due to damage to or subluxation of the joint as a result of the joint's instability, that is not the case for the hip.
The thing with bodies is that everyones' are different, and while that may seem fairly obvious, I'm speaking more about the small anatomical differences seen in bone structure that has an effect on things like shoulder and hip impingement.
Some individuals may have hips that are more prone to impingement, which may lead to labral tears. The rim of the socket may overhang more in some people than it does in others. This might be due to either the structure of the bone itself or the labrum. As the hip flexes, the edge of the socket and labrum get pinched by the femur.
Other individuals may have femoral heads that are larger or shaped differently, leading to impingement or a femoral head that does not fit quite right in its socket.
I would be worried that his hip is something that is being caused by something anatomical rather than due to an acute trauma, instability, or muscle imbalance. One is something you can change, the other, you're kinda stuck with. Not saying that is certainly the case for him, but it is something to think about.