Considering their differences and the increasing likelihood that he will leave via FA after this year, do you trade him now
as this Washington Post blog post suggests?
Keep in mind that next year's QB class is supposed to be stellar. What would you demand in trade return for letting him go, and what would your backup plan be for 2017?
It seems they should have a clear idea of whether he wants to re-sign at this point.
I'm not sure you can go into the year without some hope from your starter, but who do you sign? Do you draft someone this year?
Even the comp pick you might be awarded wouldn't be during the 2018 draft.
Either way I think its good for the Giants. We have Cousins' number and he's good enough to pick off a win or two from the Eagles/Cowboys who aren't nearly as talented as us on defense.
If he leaves, hopefully its for crap picks and they take forever to find his replacement.
I'd do something like this too. Its admitting a lost season which really doesn't fly, but its the quickest way to get back into things considering how depleted their talent is.
He's still young, durable, and plays pretty well and it's not out of the question he gets better and he starts to gain more experience and understands defenses.
Trading him would be a move a bad franchise makes.........
I hadn't thought of that...that is a really good comp.
And the Redskins not want him and trade him for picks?
Because the relationship is not good and the other team feels like he fits there system.
If the relationship is bad, that's on the GM/Head Coach, and they should probably be fired. Good QB's (not talking great, just good) are hard to come by. Teams like buffalo, have spent tons of resources trying to find one, and here they are giving one away?
1. Trade him yesterday for the best 2017 pick you can get.
2. Allow the team to suck for 2017.
3. Get the best rookie QB you can next draft.
Problem solved.
Is he the ideal QB to win a championship? maybe not but you do not have a championship QB in the wings.
Cousin is Washington's best option and he has proven he can give up 9 to 11 wins with a good cast around him.
They are called "Prospects" for a reason. The so called great QB draft next year could fall apart this college season. (injuries, poor play, Etc).
You know what you have with Cousins and he has the skill set that could still develop into a championship QB.
That Washington defense was ranked 28th each of the past 2 years. That has as much to do with Cousins numbers as anything else.
I'd rather have him than Andy Dalton. Neither is great, but Dalton is a player who has been propped up by a tremendous amount of talent around him and as it dissipates, gets exposed more and more.
What can the Redskins get in return for that? They might get a 3rd or maybe if they are lucky a 2nd rounder in 2018, not much more than that. Any GM giving up more than that should be fired on the spot.
What can the Redskins get in return for that? They might get a 3rd or maybe if they are lucky a 2nd rounder in 2018, not much more than that. Any GM giving up more than that should be fired on the spot.
Yeah but who wants to play for the Redskins? He might want a different location.
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I would trade Cousins for a 2018 1st round pick and a 3rd this year. I would then take a developmental QB this year like Peterman in round 4. Obviously the Redskins would be among the worst teams in football but then they would have a shot at either Darnold or Allen plus another first round pick to help add talent around them.
I'd do something like this too. Its admitting a lost season which really doesn't fly, but its the quickest way to get back into things considering how depleted their talent is.
It is easy to discount the difficulty of getting a top QB. Even if he is Kerry Collins Jr, you have to look around the league and see who is able to get you that kind of production on a regular basis, and then ask the question of when will they become available?
I have a suspicion that what Cousins wants is some respect - a team that is willing to say they believe in him and is willing to pay good money (and picks) to get him. I suspect he might be willing to sign for less if the team was legit.
Cleveland is in a good position this year, but really if I were Washington what I'd want is picks in next year's draft. It seems that generally speaking a pick next year is valued one round higher than a pick this year, so getting a 3rd this year would be like getting a 2nd next year. I'd ask for several of next years' picks and then use them to trade up high in the draft to get a real franchise QB.
As mentioned already, it would mean going into this season with a big question mark at QB, but if Washington doesn't think they're going to be able to sign him next year, what good would it do to play out an 8-8 season and get maybe a 3rd round comp pick next year?
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In comment 13443079 Jay on the Island said:
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I would trade Cousins for a 2018 1st round pick and a 3rd this year. I would then take a developmental QB this year like Peterman in round 4. Obviously the Redskins would be among the worst teams in football but then they would have a shot at either Darnold or Allen plus another first round pick to help add talent around them.
I'd do something like this too. Its admitting a lost season which really doesn't fly, but its the quickest way to get back into things considering how depleted their talent is.
Darnold is the real deal. I'd be pissed if Washington got him. Guy looks Eli and Rodgers.
They would have to be the worst team in the league or close to it to trade enough assets to get the top pick in 2018 and get Darnold. Washington isn't a complete scrub team and they'll win at least 6 games unless they are destroyed by injuries, including Cousins
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Kerry Collins Jr - piles up a bunch of yards without a bunch of TDs to go with it and crumbles in big games.
I hadn't thought of that...that is a really good comp.
I think cousins is a little better than Collins but I'd trade him in the right kind of deal. Let's be honest the Skins are kind of in a damned if you don't or don't situation. We don't know if other teams are knocking down the skins door either. For all we know interest is lukewarm.
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Most over paid player in the NFL. He's become a solid QB. But 25 million for Kirk Cousins. Seriously. Yes. In a heartbeat
I'd rather have him than Andy Dalton. Neither is great, but Dalton is a player who has been propped up by a tremendous amount of talent around him and as it dissipates, gets exposed more and more.
Cousins had his best year last year and much like Dalton was propped up by an above average receiver corps. And much like Dalton in big moments Cousins seems to shrink as well. And at 25 million Cousins is way way over paid compared to Dalton. I don't think either guy ever sniffs a Super Bowl.