1. Brett Gardner (L) LF .182/.318/.236
2. Chase Headley (S) 3B .339/.431/.565
3. Matt Holliday (R) DH .217/.379/.391
4. Jacoby Ellsbury (L) CF .333/.380/.455
5. Starlin Castro (R) 2B .357/.400/.571
6. Aaron Judge (R) RF .279/.343/.639
7. Greg Bird (L) 1B .104/.204/.229
8. Austin Romine (R) CA .324/.381/.459
9. Ronald Torreyes (R) SS .293/.293/.431
Luis Severino (R): (20 IP, 4.05 ERA)
vs.
Rick Porcello (R): (23.2 IP, 5.32 ERA
1. Xander Bogaerts (R) SS .333/.377/.351
2. Andrew Benintendi (L) LF .347/.415/.444
3. Mookie Betts (R) RF .313/.389/.469
4. Mitch Moreland (L) 1B .315/.390/.548
5. Hanley Ramirez (R) DH .210/.269/.306
6. Jackie Bradley Jr. (L) CF .280/.345/.480
7. Josh Rutledge (R) 3B
8. Marco Hernandez (L) 2B .286/.324/.314
9. Sandy Leon (S) CA .205/.222/.318
that only happens when you jinx it. Now take it back and i'll give you back your shinebox.
I just quoted my 3rd favorite movie. It's a love offering confirming our undying bromance.
Well if he starts to implode..there is Green in AAA killing it.
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mr. sensitive.
I just quoted my 3rd favorite movie. It's a love offering confirming our undying bromance.
Wow. This is the manliest exchange I've seen today...
Called meatballs...
The dumbass called a timeout when Gardner was stealing....par for the course.
this ...
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Judge is fucking awesome and is becoming my favorite player on this team.
this ...
Knock wood, but hard to argue with this...I know it is early but he has a calmness about him.
Del, I agree about Castro. Hopefully Torres is ready sooner than later.
Not sure about Judge being a cleanup hitter but he's a perfect 5 hitter
Wow, nitpicking. That was a rocket that slipped by because of the shift and Severino missed is spot by the width of the plate...
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want to put pressure on him, but Judge is working his way to the 4 spot.
Not sure about Judge being a cleanup hitter but he's a perfect 5 hitter
Not much difference between 4 and 5. Either way.
falls completely into the stands
replay shows he caught it
umps say....
overturned! Great play ...
Ji Man Choi!
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Hate to say it, but I almost feel like the minors would do him good right now. Not sure who would replace him though ... Carter isn't so great himself. Refsnyder?
Ji Man Choi!
ha ha - right, forgot about him!
healed or not, he's on the 60-day - I don't think he's eligible until early June.
no disagreement - he's a decent defensive 1B, right? If he's raking and Bird needs to retool, I wouldn't be opposed.
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healed or not, he's on the 60-day - I don't think he's eligible until early June.
Ahh thanks for that additional info..
Dumb question but he can play AAA games while on the DL or no?
Just glad he's not here on a multi year deal.
Already thinking of DHing Carter or Sanchez more often and simply sitting Holliday at times.
At 1 year tho nobody can complain.
I think we've got our 2nd #1 starter.
Yes, he does. Throwing a bit harder this year, too - 97/98/99.
Owning the steroid era with dominate stats.
Also that said Mike Mussina is a absolute HOF pitcher and must get in one day.
Pedro is one of the best of all time. You can't deny how dominant he was.
Good point.
Robertson did pick that cutter up a bit though. Think Mo only really thought he was the chosen one. Maybe.
3-0
In a nutshell.
RP, exactly. His pitch recognition this year is so improved. Last year he'd swing at all those offspead curves outside the zone. No more.
And Bird going the other way is a good sign for him, too. That's a good way to break a slump.
He's working out there like he's got a flight to catch.
And Torreyes did great getting to that ball.
Heck of a play by both Torreyes and Castro. And Severino with a 7 inning 3 hitter. Time for the pen.
Now I hope Betances gets ready.
Another dinger from the Judge would put the icing on top of this one.
Yankees fans scream Yankees Suck? I'm not buying that, yat.
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But of course they are right! ;-)
Yankees fans scream Yankees Suck? I'm not buying that, yat.
You're a funny guy, B. And don't ask, "Funny how".
Very excited for how Severino has been throwing. He was sort of a forgotten young player coming into the season, with how much attention others were getting. But he's as important as any of them.
And on cue he gets 2 over.
I think that was part of it. Chapman's from Cuba, it must feel weird pitching in New England in April ...
totally agree with this! A win at Fenway is a win!
Don't worry until there's something to worry about.
Severino....this is good.
Personally, I don't think that's so bad - we have some other good pitchers out there. It's a deep bullpen.
I'm with you on that. The Orioles worry me more than the Bosox.
Agreed for sure DH Sanchez every 2-3 days no doubt especially if Holliday or Carter don't get hot.
That allows you to just play Sanchez every day basically with an occasional day off once a month or two.
Or, he could be part of a trade package for a stud starting pitcher next year or this year.
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Just due to the pitches and discomfort
Personally, I don't think that's so bad - we have some other good pitchers out there. It's a deep bullpen.
They're also facing Sale tomorrow. He's been untouchable. I'm not conceding anything but if they're in a position where they'd even considering using Chap in the first place tomorrow, something went well...
I know, the team had to move on, (get young prospects) but man, I sure hope the Yankees don't regret it.
Miller just had that "something special".
You might be right, but after watching Higgie's games vs Romine's (I mean calling the game), Romine appears to call a much better game. I know Tony Pena will make some of the calls from the bench, but Romine just appears to call a better game.
Yup. It's looking like we'll be pretty competitive this year even while "rebuilding" - the kids are all right. Tonight we're playing with house money against Sale - Tanaka has something to prove, wouldn't surprise me if he comes out and pitches well.
Didi may be in the lineup tomorrow night at the Stadium.
And 3 or 4 of the other 8 were almost involuntary manslaughter.
I assume we'll see Hicks for Gardner tonight, and maybe Carter for Bird. It might look something like this:
Ellsbury
Hicks
Holliday
Castro
Headley
Judge
Carter
Romine
Torreyes
Wouldn't be any different with Bird.
You can get a lot more for Romine right now. What can you get for a guy who has been in the minors for 8 years.
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just save some time and book it as 3 Ks...
Wouldn't be any different with Bird.
He had a nice Monster hit yesterday!
I know, the team had to move on, (get young prospects) but man, I sure hope the Yankees don't regret it.
Miller just had that "something special".
Hey, hits like that (and roids) saved Ortiz's career!
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Trade high on Romine and keep Higgy. Romine' s been out of options and hard to trade till now.
I agree. But, I also wanted Higgy to make the squad out of the Spring, in the first place.
You also wanted Severino in the minors
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Hey, hits like that (and roids) saved Ortiz's career!
Half of Pedroias career doubles at home are fly outs in any other park too
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Trade high on Romine and keep Higgy. Romine' s been out of options and hard to trade till now.
I agree. But, I also wanted Higgy to make the squad out of the Spring, in the first place.
You also wanted Severino in the minors
Now, people are crediting time he spent with Pedro Martinez this offseason with his success. Why didn't that translate in the spring? I don't know. But, something is clicking now and this is the pitcher I expected 2 years ago.
Quote:He looks like a completely different pitcher. It's not really crazy to have suggested he had issues to work out.
Now, people are crediting time he spent with Pedro Martinez this offseason with his success. Why didn't that translate in the spring? I don't know. But, something is clicking now and this is the pitcher I expected 2 years ago.
Matt, I wanted Sevy to go to SWB, too. But what we don't know is what Girardi had him working on in ST. Pitchers will work on developing a pitch or their mechanics in ST because it doesn't count and they pitch against MLB hitters. So tey get whatever it is they were working on sorted out and then the season starts and they go to their normal pitching with the new pitch developed with confidence. (IMHO that is what he was doing in ST).
I think Pedro definitely helped, although he really isn't throwing the change up that often. I think 97/98 on a cold night in Boston gave him an advantage wit his FB, so he didn't need the change.
Gotta give Romine a lot of credit for mixing up pitches as much as possible with a guy throwing mostly fastballs and sliders.
Buncha no-good asshats steering me wrong.
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Trade high on Romine and keep Higgy. Romine' s been out of options and hard to trade till now.
I agree. But, I also wanted Higgy to make the squad out of the Spring, in the first place.
You also wanted Severino in the minors
What does one thing have to do with another? I never questioned Severino's talent. I said if they wanted him in the pen he could pitch at a high level immediately. I thought, based on his last 2 seasons plus weighing in this Spring Training heavily that if they wanted him to start (which they did), he needed work, which should be done in the minors. I was wrong, but I would also guess that he is doing something differently than he did all spring. He looks like a completely different pitcher. It's not really crazy to have suggested he had issues to work out.
Now, people are crediting time he spent with Pedro Martinez this offseason with his success. Why didn't that translate in the spring? I don't know. But, something is clicking now and this is the pitcher I expected 2 years ago.
As section said, you weren't the only one that thought they should start him in the minors. But you by far the most vocal about it. And when posters tried explaining to you that just maybe the Yankees had a better pulse on the situation than we all do, you shrugged it off as being preposterous. You were adamant about it and kept littering thread after thread about it. You absolutely deserve a little good natured ball busting after the back and fourths this spring. You were wrong, no need to make excuses as to why. The "why" is EXACTLY what posters were trying to say to you back then.
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Quote:He looks like a completely different pitcher. It's not really crazy to have suggested he had issues to work out.
Now, people are crediting time he spent with Pedro Martinez this offseason with his success. Why didn't that translate in the spring? I don't know. But, something is clicking now and this is the pitcher I expected 2 years ago.
Matt, I wanted Sevy to go to SWB, too. But what we don't know is what Girardi had him working on in ST. Pitchers will work on developing a pitch or their mechanics in ST because it doesn't count and they pitch against MLB hitters. So tey get whatever it is they were working on sorted out and then the season starts and they go to their normal pitching with the new pitch developed with confidence. (IMHO that is what he was doing in ST).
I think Pedro definitely helped, although he really isn't throwing the change up that often. I think 97/98 on a cold night in Boston gave him an advantage wit his FB, so he didn't need the change.
It wasn't just the change-up that Pedro worked with him on. It was also his delivery and some "talking to" about some of the finer points of pitching. I wonder why more Dominican pitchers aren't knocking down Pedro's door for help? Several of the Yanks top pitching prospects are also Dominican- if I were them, I would be hounding Severino for Pedro's phone number and beg for some help too.
He's not throwing that many overall, but he's throwing almost all of them to lefties.
Seems to me like he has a couple of little variations on the slider. It may be just a matter of changing speed with that pitch a little bit or possibly varying the tightness on the grip.
He also seems to be varying the timing a little bit on the leg kick in his delivery, which I think is messing up the hitters' timing ever so slightly. When you're trying to get around on 98, I'd bet it can really screw with you.
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Trade high on Romine and keep Higgy. Romine' s been out of options and hard to trade till now.
I agree. But, I also wanted Higgy to make the squad out of the Spring, in the first place.
You also wanted Severino in the minors
What does one thing have to do with another? I never questioned Severino's talent. I said if they wanted him in the pen he could pitch at a high level immediately. I thought, based on his last 2 seasons plus weighing in this Spring Training heavily that if they wanted him to start (which they did), he needed work, which should be done in the minors. I was wrong, but I would also guess that he is doing something differently than he did all spring. He looks like a completely different pitcher. It's not really crazy to have suggested he had issues to work out.
Now, people are crediting time he spent with Pedro Martinez this offseason with his success. Why didn't that translate in the spring? I don't know. But, something is clicking now and this is the pitcher I expected 2 years ago.
As section said, you weren't the only one that thought they should start him in the minors. But you by far the most vocal about it. And when posters tried explaining to you that just maybe the Yankees had a better pulse on the situation than we all do, you shrugged it off as being preposterous. You were adamant about it and kept littering thread after thread about it. You absolutely deserve a little good natured ball busting after the back and fourths this spring. You were wrong, no need to make excuses as to why. The "why" is EXACTLY what posters were trying to say to you back then.
Also - I remember specifically posting that he was likely working on pitch technique. Nobody knew he was going to be this hot to start, but there was a debate for a reason, because we didn't all see it the same way.
It isn't so much "control" as "command." Most ML SP have the control to throw strikes and get the ball over the plate- but it is a finer line to have the command to put the ball where you intend it to go.
In other words, it is one thing to simply throw a FB and get a strike. It is another for the C to call for a FB low and away- and have enough command of the pitch to get it down and away where the C is set up.
How often do you see a C set up on one side of the plate, only to have to come back to the other to get the ball? Happens rather often actually. However, what Severino has most improved upon is getting the ball where he and the C want it- which makes it easier for the C to move him around the zone and "set up" a hitter for a specific pitch.
Even more specifically- Severino has demonstrated that "command touch" on his off-speed stuff. It is no longer just "get it over the plate" control, but actual command- that he can get it where he wants it to go.
It all shows up in the numbers- if you look back at his numbers over the past two seasons, you see a LOT of walks (over 3 per 9 innings on average) and a LOT of hits (more than a hit per inning), indicating that he was not getting the ball where he wanted it to go- unable to hit corners or the black- or leaving it over the plate for the hitter to smash.
Look at the numbers this season and you see MUCH fewer hits and even fewer walks. In short, he is getting the ball where his C believes the hitter either cannot get to it, will be fooled by the pitch, or simply cannot catch up to it.
THAT is the difference- and that is what Pedro appears to have drilled home into his head- it isn't about throwing strikes and high velo- you have to have a plan and know you can put the ball where you want it. That separates the guys who throw 95+, but are #5 SP or relievers from the guy who is a front-of-the-rotation SP.