Mayock Annual Mock: Bolles

and raw is no way to draft.

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I'd prefer Lamp based on Mayocks mock.

say I've really watched him at all, but I honestly don't like that his top attribute that I hear when he is talked about is that he plays with a mean streak. Danny Watkins had a massive mean streak that helium-ed him into a pick just like this, but when all the sudden your not playing against guys 4-6 years younger than you, you don't looks so big and bad anymore.

all say Bolles. I suspect all three have good sources.

Bolles would be a good 2nd option but i would take Cam 1st.

but I don't know shit.

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Weighs only 290lbs. He will absolutely get no push.

says Asiata deserves most of the credit, not Bolles. Boles also had a 9 on the Wonderlic. Great feet though.

In comment 13443789 Steve in Greenwich said:

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say I've really watched him at all, but I honestly don't like that his top attribute that I hear when he is talked about is that he plays with a mean streak. Danny Watkins had a massive mean streak that helium-ed him into a pick just like this, but when all the sudden your not playing against guys 4-6 years younger than you, you don't looks so big and bad anymore.

His top attribute is his athletic ability.

In comment 13443802 Carl in CT said:

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Weighs only 290lbs. He will absolutely get no push.

He weighs 297. He'll put on weight in the NFL just like almost all players do. Lane Johnson weighed 303. He's doing just fine for himself.

bolles. i like ramczyk, bolles, robinson in that order. my concern w boles is age. dont love taking 25 yr olds if at all possible

In comment 13443802 Carl in CT said:

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Weighs only 290lbs. He will absolutely get no push.

If we take him it's to protect Eli's blind side, and to pull a bit to both sides. He's not gonna be a road grader, but that's OK with me if he can keep Eli clean.

when Bolles is the pick.

my biggest fear is wasting my time watching the 1st round only to then be disgusted for staying up to watch them draft a mediocre OL prospect

Sweet dreams

how many teams have 4 first rounders on their OL?

if Eli needs 4 first rounders on the OL to complete a pass, maybe its time to move on. Bolles is not projected help in the run game too much.

and Robinson to be Guards, and because Ram has an injury past. Bolles will put on weight, is athletic, big, and mean. I like him, and a lot of scouts do too. I'm not sure I buy that his success was because of Asiata. Too many other people like the guy, they would have seen this too.

Let Bolles and Flowers battle it out for LT, the loser plays RT.

re-sign your draft picks..If Bolles can step in right away, he will have finished his 5 seasons at age 29..

Given FA, that is fine with me..Years ago, that would have bothered me and it did (Aaron Ross) as I was looking ahead to a second contract. Second contracts with the same team (save for QBs) seems to be the exception, rather than the rule..

His age is no factor for me, other than the positive part of maturity

... would be interesting I guess.

I just hate the thought of passing up likely elite defensive talent for a "need", but I've mentally prepared myself for them to reach for a tackle

- just like they did with pugh/flowers

In comment 13443825 Floyd_Fan said:

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how many teams have 4 first rounders on their OL? if Eli needs 4 first rounders on the OL to complete a pass, maybe its time to move on. Bolles is not projected help in the run game too much.

It's amazing, but draft status doesn't actually count in games.

There's no cease and desist on pressures allowed by Flowers and Fluker just because teams (not even the Giants in Fluker's case) took them earlier than the guys embarrassing them.

Mind if Bolles were the pick at all very athletic should be a good LT.

But I really have to wonder whether the Giants want to draft an OL who got a 9 on the wonderlic.

In comment 13443832 Devon said:

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In comment 13443825 Floyd_Fan said: Quote: how many teams have 4 first rounders on their OL? It's amazing, but draft status doesn't actually count in games. There's no cease and desist on pressures allowed by Flowers and Fluker just because teams (not even the Giants in Fluker's case) took them earlier than the guys embarrassing them.

I just don't think that drafting Bolles fixes Flowers. Just more sunk cost.

what if Bolles is another Flowers? keep drafting OL?

he's most like a second rounder to me. He is not going to fix the Giants OL.

we need to trade up for him. Him playing center feild would make our deffense historic.

just seems like a reach based too much on need.

late first or top of the 2nd round. So picking one of these guys is not a stretch and presents proper value for our spot.

I don't like Bolles at all. He's not a guy who will help next year. Keep dreaming if you think he can play year one as a T.

Plus he's older. He's a really terrible pick based on a lot of value elsewhere in the draft. A reach and forced pick due to perceived need. Hopefully some stupid team in front of us takes him.

if hes the pick the giants disagree. if they go that route he starts day 1 imo

That would so much balls. It would break my heart.


If the board played out like Mayock says, I would go with David Njoku or Jarrad Davis

In comment 13443884 Dankbeerman said:

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we need to trade up for him. Him playing center feild would make our deffense historic.

the best player available due higher grade, then address the OL in later rounds.

better pick then Bolles.

in a few weeks needs to get stronger. If you look at the Giants' 1st & 2nd round picks the past 5 years, 7 of the 10 were really young guys.

IDK... the age thing and playing only 1 year of D1 ball is really a problem for me.

would really cause me to throw the remote. Old, a project and too light....just what we need, another lineman who can't get push in the run game.

In comment 13443802 Carl in CT said:

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Weighs only 290lbs. He will absolutely get no push.

Check out Tyron smith before his draft

in that Bolles is the only OL that the Giants are gonna take in RD1.

Out on Ramczyk and not as high on Cam or the interior guys.

Bolles a likely pick if he's there and Howard is gone. But Thrill suspects they'd take both Jarrad Davis (unpicked) and Adoree (#18 to Tenn) ahead of Garrett.

In comment 13443954 One Man Thrill Ride said:

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in that Bolles is the only OL that the Giants are gonna take in RD1. Out on Ramczyk and not as high on Cam or the interior guys. Bolles a likely pick if he's there and Howard is gone. But Thrill suspects they'd take both Jarrad Davis (unpicked) and Adoree (#18 to Tenn) ahead of Garrett.

Thrill,

What is it about Bolles that they like? He just seems like he doesn't fit our mold. I keep hearing about LB was hopeful for a TE and I like Lamp, could live with Robinson but Bolles? Puke!!!

that should be Jerry Reach's last first round pick...ever.

...all I'll say is I doubt it and I hope not. Fingers crossed it isn't any of these OL at #23.

Where 25 is considered to be an old age that, once reached, prevents a person from improving mentally and physically.

In comment 13443810 Big Rick in FL said:

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In comment 13443802 Carl in CT said: Quote: Weighs only 290lbs. He will absolutely get no push. He weighs 297. He'll put on weight in the NFL just like almost all players do. Lane Johnson weighed 303. He's doing just fine for himself.

Lane Johnson was a WAAAAAY better prospect than Bolles hence the reason he was drafted 4th overall.

The Danny Watkins comparison is actually a fair comparison.

In comment 13443981 Rjanyg said:

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In comment 13443954 One Man Thrill Ride said: Quote: in that Bolles is the only OL that the Giants are gonna take in RD1. Out on Ramczyk and not as high on Cam or the interior guys. Bolles a likely pick if he's there and Howard is gone. But Thrill suspects they'd take both Jarrad Davis (unpicked) and Adoree (#18 to Tenn) ahead of Garrett. Thrill, What is it about Bolles that they like? He just seems like he doesn't fit our mold. I keep hearing about LB was hopeful for a TE and I like Lamp, could live with Robinson but Bolles? Puke!!!

Above anything, he's put good work on film. All the questions about his age, upside, upper body strength, maturity are fair. On the field, he was an exceptional LT at Utah with top-notch movement skills.

The Giants process involves heavy scouting influence. Atop the draft, they will aggressively rule out players on account of character (Tunsil) and medical (Ramczyk). If Bolles is past all the tomfoolery that put him on the crooked path to Utah (scoring a 9 on the wonderlic doesn;t ease Thrilly's mind), then it's easy to see why the traits and athletic ability he showed on film amount to a 1st rd grade.

Can't explain why they seem down on Cam. Superficially he sure looks like the size/talent/youth/production/experience prospect. Might be a moot point anyway - a few reputable mockers have Cam going 16 to Baltimore, who lost their OT Wagner in free agency and Ozzie Newsome is an Alabama guy.

a need pick, if they make it.

But, hey, maybe we'll luck out and draft Bolles and Asiata, too. It could happen.

In comment 13443954 One Man Thrill Ride said:

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in that Bolles is the only OL that the Giants are gonna take in RD1. Out on Ramczyk and not as high on Cam or the interior guys. Bolles a likely pick if he's there and Howard is gone. But Thrill suspects they'd take both Jarrad Davis (unpicked) and Adoree (#18 to Tenn) ahead of Garrett.

Are you hearing any interest for the 1st rd RBs?