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NFT: Braves and Mets "The trade" 4/27

ZGiants98 : 4/27/2017 10:15 am
-Syndergaard and Dickey square off for the first time since they were traded for each other.

-Mets cant stop losing, drop 5th straight

-Nimmo 1-3 with a walk in first rehab game back

-Wilmer discharged from hospital (good news)

-Day game today

LGM!
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How's that for timing?  
arcarsenal : 4/27/2017 2:23 pm : link
Can't make it up.

Yoenis is a freak athlete and for some reason, the guy cannot run without pulling something.

I can't watch this shit man.
What a nightmare  
KWhite2250 : 4/27/2017 2:23 pm : link
Unreal
I don't understand  
Metnut : 4/27/2017 2:24 pm : link
why they didn't just put him on the DL so he can heal and be 100%. There's even a 10 day DL now to make this easier. Are the Wilpons hiring a cheap training staff or something? I don't get why this always happens to us.
.  
arcarsenal : 4/27/2017 2:24 pm : link
There has to be an issue with this teams training staff. I don't know how else to explain it.
Let's at least  
Metnut : 4/27/2017 2:24 pm : link
fucking win anyway. Cmon!
Cespedes is starting to be a huge  
ZGiants98 : 4/27/2017 2:28 pm : link
pain in the ass. Love it when he's hot but holy shit.
Pretty funny from MMO  
ZGiants98 : 4/27/2017 2:29 pm : link
RAY RAMIREZ!!!!!!

RE: .  
KWhite2250 : 4/27/2017 2:29 pm : link
In comment 13445120 arcarsenal said:
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There has to be an issue with this teams training staff. I don't know how else to explain it.


I posted few days ago, my buddy was on the Michigan football staff under Rich Rod and he quit because he didnt agree with the methods used by Barwis. My friend is a personal trainer and has his own gym in Chicago. He blames Barwis for this with the Mets since he is still employed by the Mets. I never really knew there were different methods of training but I guess there is
If Cespedes is becoming a pain in the ass  
Chris684 : 4/27/2017 2:30 pm : link
What does that make David Wright and his 100 terrible at bats over the last 3 seasons?
RE: If Cespedes is becoming a pain in the ass  
ZGiants98 : 4/27/2017 2:33 pm : link
In comment 13445133 Chris684 said:
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What does that make David Wright and his 100 terrible at bats over the last 3 seasons?


Why does anyone still care about David Wright?? He's a sunk cost and hasn't played in years. Were you counting on him to lead the Mets this year or something? Nobody expected him to play, if at all.
Glad Harvey showed up  
Rflairr : 4/27/2017 2:40 pm : link
When the team needed him
cespedes  
spike : 4/27/2017 3:02 pm : link
should ve gone on the DL. This hammy takes a long time to properly heal
Well... the good news is Reyes is hitting!  
ZGiants98 : 4/27/2017 3:06 pm : link
lol. I fully expect Cespedes to be gone for a month however. Actually I expect him to begone for 7 days... come back... aggravate it again... come back... aggravate it again... come back...
Smoked!  
ZGiants98 : 4/27/2017 3:14 pm : link
Smoker just put the Braves over his knee and spanked them in public.
RE: Smoked!  
Jay on the Island : 4/27/2017 3:34 pm : link
In comment 13445204 ZGiants98 said:
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Smoker just put the Braves over his knee and spanked them in public.

You really are an incredibly optimistic person.
FIRE  
spike : 4/27/2017 3:36 pm : link
Barwis and Ramirez!!

Hire the Giants trainer to consult

Can Tebow help us train better?
mets  
sshin05 : 4/27/2017 3:38 pm : link
are making me depressed about baseball. lol
RE: RE: Smoked!  
ZGiants98 : 4/27/2017 3:39 pm : link
In comment 13445254 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13445204 ZGiants98 said:


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Smoker just put the Braves over his knee and spanked them in public.


You really are an incredibly optimistic person.


Just having fun man. Lol. Not much is going right.
RE: RE: RE: Smoked!  
Jay on the Island : 4/27/2017 3:40 pm : link
In comment 13445261 ZGiants98 said:
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In comment 13445254 Jay on the Island said:


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In comment 13445204 ZGiants98 said:


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Smoker just put the Braves over his knee and spanked them in public.


You really are an incredibly optimistic person.



Just having fun man. Lol. Not much is going right.

I wasn't knocking you I am just impressed.
I put this in the wrong thread  
Jay on the Island : 4/27/2017 3:41 pm : link
Jose Ramirez has been excellent this season. He was once one of the Yankees top prospects but could not harness his control and was moved to the pen by Atlanta. He showed flashes last season and just cracked the Braves roster. He has been their most consistent reliever thus far.
if Syndergaard goes on the DL  
spike : 4/27/2017 3:43 pm : link
who the heck are we going to start?

Fuckin Montero?
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timintey : 4/27/2017 3:43 pm : link
In comment 13444727 pganut said:
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Anthony DiComo ✔ @AnthonyDiComo
"In my opinion, this is very minor." Noah Syndergaard says he hopes to return to the mound Sunday in Washington. #Mets

This would make pganut very happy as I'll be at Sunday's game and on the field beforehand.

Nice! Regardless if he throws or not... enjoy!
This month fucking blows for so many reasons  
ZGiants98 : 4/27/2017 3:45 pm : link
but JFC its going to be nice to play a different team other than the Braves, Marlins, and Nats. Holy shit. Never thought Id be so exited to play a team like the Padres before.
our division  
spike : 4/27/2017 3:46 pm : link
has very talented players, including the Phillies.
at least our pen  
spike : 4/27/2017 3:49 pm : link
seems to be getting better.
RE: our division  
ZGiants98 : 4/27/2017 3:50 pm : link
In comment 13445273 spike said:
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has very talented players, including the Phillies.


Im speaking about familiarity. You play the same teams over and over again they start to get familiar with your pitchers. Not to mention the Marlins and Nats see us constantly in spring training. Its a weird schedule to start the year but put that outside of my top 10 concerns at the moment.
RE: our division  
Jay on the Island : 4/27/2017 3:54 pm : link
In comment 13445273 spike said:
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has very talented players, including the Phillies.

The Division is only going to get tougher. Atlanta's top prospect SS/2B Ozzie Albies is the youngest player i AAA and he is on fire. He is batting .291 and leads the league in doubles, stolen bases, and runs scored despite starting the season off slowly. Amazingly he has never faced a pitcher younger than him during his entire career and he won't this year. Also they will likely promote a few of their top pitching prospects like Max Fried, Sean Newcomb, Lucas Sims, and Patrick Weigel along with AJ Minter who is one of the best relief prospects in baseball. The Braves have the worst bench in baseball but that will improve dramatically once OF Dustin Peterson gets healthy.
I hope  
spike : 4/27/2017 3:54 pm : link
we sneak in a win over the weekend

Not hopeful. Is Duda back yet ?
Familla looking like complete shit  
Rflairr : 4/27/2017 4:00 pm : link
AGAIN
RE: I hope  
ZGiants98 : 4/27/2017 4:03 pm : link
In comment 13445288 spike said:
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we sneak in a win over the weekend

Not hopeful. Is Duda back yet ?


Not eligible until next Monday.
Im actually pretty disgusted with Asdrubal Cabrera  
ZGiants98 : 4/27/2017 4:04 pm : link
He's been complete dog shit and unlike Reyes who's getting paid the minimum and his hitting eighth, Cabrera is sucking up crucial atbats in the 2 hole. At this rate, I wont want his option picked up next year.
Sherlock  
spike : 4/27/2017 4:05 pm : link
sure isn't Holmes
I am so glad Atlanta continues to let Jim Johnson close  
Jay on the Island : 4/27/2017 4:05 pm : link
He is strictly a middle reliever.
Fire Sherlock  
Rflairr : 4/27/2017 4:06 pm : link
.
RE: Fire Sherlock  
ZGiants98 : 4/27/2017 4:06 pm : link
In comment 13445311 Rflairr said:
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He's had a brutal day.
that tacked on run in the top 9th  
spike : 4/27/2017 4:07 pm : link
sure seems costly now
1-7 homestand  
spike : 4/27/2017 4:07 pm : link
lol
the two intentional walks were instrumental in two runs scoring  
Vanzetti : 4/27/2017 4:10 pm : link
Mets might lose anyway but just more evidence of Terry's black thump when it comes to strategy
maybe  
spike : 4/27/2017 4:11 pm : link
Collins will get fired by July if the team is at 500 by then
also Bruce getting thrown at home  
Vanzetti : 4/27/2017 4:13 pm : link
coaches throwing gas on the fire
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arcarsenal : 4/27/2017 4:18 pm : link
In comment 13445131 KWhite2250 said:
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There has to be an issue with this teams training staff. I don't know how else to explain it.



I posted few days ago, my buddy was on the Michigan football staff under Rich Rod and he quit because he didnt agree with the methods used by Barwis. My friend is a personal trainer and has his own gym in Chicago. He blames Barwis for this with the Mets since he is still employed by the Mets. I never really knew there were different methods of training but I guess there is


After what we just saw with the Giants, I absolutely think there's a correlation between poor training methods and players getting hurt. Wellman made a huge difference.

If the Mets were smart, they'd fucking get rid of everyone on that staff and spend the money to bring in top flight guys to help protect their investments (players)

It's happening too often to be a coincidence at this point. I'm sure some guys (Matz, dArnaud) really are just injury prone - but I am convinced that the training methods being used are at least partially to blame for this entire team getting injured year in and year out.
It even seeps down into the minors!  
NewFakeDannyHeep : 4/27/2017 4:21 pm : link
Look at DMM's minor league injury report. Is there some bizarre organizationwide training philosophy?
Man if they get swept in WAS  
Rflairr : 4/27/2017 4:32 pm : link
They could be 11.5 out already. OUCH
So, being fully aware that Noah was hurting and that his start  
PhiPsi125 : 4/27/2017 8:00 pm : link
could be in jeopardy, they still had Harvey go through his full workout yesterday (something they never have pitchers do the day before their start, apparently) and his arm was still sore. Maybe the reason for the lower velocity and ineffectiveness?

This crack manager and coaching staff consistently put these players in positions to fail. I can't wait until all of them except Warthen is gone. I guarantee we'd be a much better team.
these comments are so ridiclious  
Rory : 4/27/2017 8:02 pm : link
teams have had losing streaks before

And teams have had injury bugs before

Funny how they seem to happen at the same time...

Lets see where the Mets are in July

Oh and the excessive Terry Collins hate is sofakingannoying, hes the manager deal with it.
Lol, yeah this is a completely new concept for the Mets.  
PhiPsi125 : 4/27/2017 8:10 pm : link
Oh wait, they've been a woefully inconsistent and BAD offensive club for years that lacks any accountability and fundamentals.

Can't wait until that big run we make in four months to try to secure the wild card. Should be awesome.
RE: Im actually pretty disgusted with Asdrubal Cabrera  
Spreegal22 : 4/27/2017 9:04 pm : link
In comment 13445306 ZGiants98 said:
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He's been complete dog shit and unlike Reyes who's getting paid the minimum and his hitting eighth, Cabrera is sucking up crucial atbats in the 2 hole. At this rate, I wont want his option picked up next year.


In his defense, I think he is playing hurt. He was hitting well until around the time he tweaked his hamstring.
RE: Lol, yeah this is a completely new concept for the Mets.  
Rory : 4/27/2017 9:11 pm : link
In comment 13445849 PhiPsi125 said:
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Oh wait, they've been a woefully inconsistent and BAD offensive club for years that lacks any accountability and fundamentals.

Can't wait until that big run we make in four months to try to secure the wild card. Should be awesome.


inconsistency is the whole league in April-June

If the NY Mets lineup consisted of younger not fully developed hitters then yes some of what you state holds weight. But its predominately veteran ball players who have been seasoned in the league. These guys are just slow starters.

Its April, get healthy , keep the pen fresh and lets see where things are at in 2 months.

chill
RE: RE: Lol, yeah this is a completely new concept for the Mets.  
PhiPsi125 : 4/27/2017 9:30 pm : link
In comment 13446136 Rory said:
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In comment 13445849 PhiPsi125 said:


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Oh wait, they've been a woefully inconsistent and BAD offensive club for years that lacks any accountability and fundamentals.

Can't wait until that big run we make in four months to try to secure the wild card. Should be awesome.



inconsistency is the whole league in April-June

If the NY Mets lineup consisted of younger not fully developed hitters then yes some of what you state holds weight. But its predominately veteran ball players who have been seasoned in the league. These guys are just slow starters.

Its April, get healthy , keep the pen fresh and lets see where things are at in 2 months.

chill


They are slow starters? Huh, could have fooled me with their April start last season. And inconsistency is not "the whole league April -June". That doesn't even make any sense nor is it factually true.

Listen, if we didn't go through this same exercise last year (and the year before, and pretty much every year under Collins) then I'd "chill". Forget about his lack of strategy, lack of feel for the game, his catering to underperforming veterans, his weird distaste and treatment of performing young players, curious BP management, etc....but his overall buffoonery in his decision making is an anchor to this team.

It was never about losing in April. I know it's early. I know it's a long season. But you take a month off the calendar and spot the Nationals 10 games....it's an unlikely hole to dig out of. When you only have two winning months out of six, then I'm sorry but you are not a good team. That was 2016...even though we made/lost the WC game.

This team is so much better than this and that is what frustrates me.
the only plus is that  
spike : 4/27/2017 9:50 pm : link
Conform gets to prove that he belongs and maybe he will play at an All star level as the leader of the next generation.
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