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NFT: Knicks Chat: Woj suggests Griffin for Melo

DanMetroMan : 4/27/2017 10:27 am
Essentially his premise is on the Clippers side they would avoid committing 5 years to Griffin vs. "2" to Melo and the Knicks would have a dynamic duo with Griffin/KP
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RE: RE: RE: Ainge doesnt build through the draft  
MotownGIANTS : 4/28/2017 5:19 pm : link
In comment 13449364 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 13449342 MotownGIANTS said:


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In comment 13449325 nygiants16 said:


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the celtics are nothing but overachieving role players with 1 superstar who is playing out of his mind...

Celtics will never win a championship with the core they have, and ainge is a horrible drafter..

guarantee he trades for superstar..

cletics are damn lucky billy king is a moron



Hmmm Smart, Brown, Rozier, Bradley, *Rondo all picks on his watch ... but ok not to mention Zizic and Yabo (coming over next season)



and all role players...

hos championship was built on trades..

this team is good because of a trade and free afency..

his teams are not built through the draft..

you just named 7 pivks out of how many first rounders he has had?





2016 1 3 Jaylen Brown University of California, Berkeley
2016 1 16 Guerschon Yabusele Rouen Métropole Basket (France)
2016 1 23 Ante Žižić Cibona Zagreb (Croatia)
2015 1 16 Terry Rozier University of Louisville
2015 1 28 R. J. Hunter Georgia State University
2014 1 6 Marcus Smart Oklahoma State
2014 1 17 James Young University of Kentucky
2013 1 16 Lucas Nogueira CB Estudiantes (Spain)
2012 1 21 Jared Sullinger Ohio State University
2012 1 22 Fab Melo Syracuse University
2011 1 25 MarShon Brooks Providence College
2010 1 19 Avery Bradley University of Texas at Austin
2008 1 30 J. R. Giddens University of New Mexico
2007 1 5 Jeff Green Georgetown University
2006 1 7 Randy Foye Villanova University
2005 1 18 Gerald Green Gulf Shores Academy
2004 1 15 Al Jefferson Prentiss
2004 1 24 Delonte West Saint Joseph's University
2004 1 25 Tony Allen Oklahoma State University
2003 1 16 Troy Bell Boston College

*Nogueira becomes Kelly Olynk
*Foye becomes Telfair and Theo Ratcliff


Tony Allen, Al Jefferson, **Gerald Green

So again to say he has drafted poorly is not correct because you name 1 GM in the NBA that hit on all picks. He has only had 5 lottery picks if you count the UPCOMING draft ... so show me where he drafts bad
that is a list of role players  
nygiants16 : 4/28/2017 5:24 pm : link
jaylen brown and the two euros are to be determined...

but which pick did he hit out of the park? absolutely zero, but he is not a good drafter, he builds through trades..

he drafts a bunch of role players..

avery bradley is probably his best pick
and i am not saying hit on all picks  
nygiants16 : 4/28/2017 5:25 pm : link
but when you have had that many first round pivks you expect at least 1 superstar...

especially with thr lotto picks he had
he had 5 counting this  
MotownGIANTS : 4/28/2017 5:32 pm : link
yr ...

That is not a lot of picks ... to say he found role players in the area of the draft where you find role players means he has done his good in drafting.


Brown is his keeper lottery pick and this yr ... Fultz or Jackson ... (I know the #1 overall should be a superstar ... what about the kid Cleveland pick ... bust the draft is a gamble) so for a dude that only has actually kept 1 lottery pick Brown.... who is playing pretty good for rookie he gets a passing grade. If you want to penalize him for trading picks so be it ... but when you have a Paul Pierce on the last leg of his prime play and you got a chance to get 2 max players you go for it...small window chase for a ring ... we are not in that position as IT ages as Horford ages we'll have guys in place to take the reigns ... no need to panic just because your FO is in panic mode and is eyeing out plate does not mean we have to follow.
You know that there is going to be a lottery, right?  
Deej : 4/28/2017 5:36 pm : link
75% chance you dont get the #1 pick.
i never knovked ainge  
nygiants16 : 4/28/2017 5:36 pm : link
all i said was he iz better at making trades than he is drafting..

that is why i said he is going to trade for a superstar
RE: You know that there is going to be a lottery, right?  
MotownGIANTS : 4/28/2017 5:37 pm : link
In comment 13449425 Deej said:
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75% chance you dont get the #1 pick.


yea that why I said Fultz or Jackson ...
RE: i never knovked ainge  
MotownGIANTS : 4/28/2017 5:40 pm : link
In comment 13449426 nygiants16 said:
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all i said was he iz better at making trades than he is drafting..

that is why i said he is going to trade for a superstar


no harm no foul ... I just think he gets a knock for drafting unfairly ... he has said he will not getting another trade that got the RA and KG and then flip them and the Coach the way he did ... he knows now it is convert to the SA format best you can .... He accessing the situation and adapts ... hence no trades even though he is a trader and gambler by nature
accesses  
MotownGIANTS : 4/28/2017 5:40 pm : link
the situation ...
off topic but Marc Stein  
Enzo : 4/28/2017 7:32 pm : link
was among the layoffs at espn. IIRC, he had a pretty good track record when it came to breaking Knicks related news.
Jazz  
Jon in NYC : 4/30/2017 6:07 pm : link
about to beat Clippers in 7.

Good news for the Knicks.
Yep, that can only help the Knicks.  
bceagle05 : 4/30/2017 6:20 pm : link
Pretty clear they need to try a different combination.
I don't see how Doc will be able to use the injury excuse this year.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/30/2017 6:21 pm : link
The crazy thing is they had homecourt and looked awful in most of the 4 games.
Austin Rivers  
bceagle05 : 4/30/2017 6:38 pm : link
isn't very good at basketball.
RE: Austin Rivers  
Jon in NYC : 4/30/2017 6:50 pm : link
In comment 13455332 bceagle05 said:
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isn't very good at basketball.


we're going to have to learn to love him
RE: Jazz  
PhiPsi125 : 4/30/2017 6:56 pm : link
In comment 13455303 Jon in NYC said:
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about to beat Clippers in 7.

Good news for the Knicks.


It's really not good news if the big piece we'd get for Melo is Austin Rivers. Why even bother then?
Knicks would've dumped Melo for Rivers (and other garbage)  
bceagle05 : 4/30/2017 7:17 pm : link
at the deadline if that's all it would've taken. LAC certainly wouldn't have turned it down. We'll figure out a way to get a couple of picks at least.
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