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Capt. Don : 4/27/2017 6:21 pm
I would hesitate to say that this is even asshat info. Just a Giants friend of mine happened to talk to an agent.

Agent said, dont be surprised to see a trade up for Mahomes. Said McAdoo loves him and has really been lobbying for him and because no one else is pounding the table for anyone else at #23 it is a possibility.

Mahomes at 23 would surprise me and a trade up for him would shock the hell out of me.

Roast away.
Anita Marks said the same thing on the radio.  
GiantGolfer : 4/27/2017 6:22 pm : link
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BleedBlue : 4/27/2017 6:22 pm : link
this was reported....so this isnt news, now we have to figure out if you are regurgitating her info or if you have an asshat. if you do they his or her info lines up with info reported then oh boy we are in running for mahomes
my reaction would be something like this  
Giantsfan79 : 4/27/2017 6:24 pm : link
Ughhhh - not a QB in the 1st  
PatersonPlank : 4/27/2017 6:25 pm : link
This is going to be a long 5 hours
I think he is the most  
Beer Man : 4/27/2017 6:27 pm : link
Dynamic QB in the draft. I don't want a QB in Rd 1, but if it has to be then he would be my pick
Really like Mahomes for Giants  
Reale01 : 4/27/2017 6:27 pm : link
No pressure to start. Seems like a great kid. Kind of a thin frame will have a chance to fill out and also to learn a pro-style offense. If he works out we can sit through next year's draft watching all the QBs get picked waiting for our pick at 32
Like I said on another thread  
djm : 4/27/2017 6:32 pm : link
If they trade up this has to mean that not only do the giants think Eli's end is closer than we might think and they are concerned with Eli's current level of play. Why trade up unless you want to upgrade sooner rather than later?
Ehhhh I hope not.  
732NYG : 4/27/2017 6:32 pm : link
No reason NOT to wait until next year's draft. It's not like this is Eli's last season.
This isn't even throw the remote, if it happens.  
Devon : 4/27/2017 6:32 pm : link
It's chuck the TV entirely worthy.
If they trade up to take Mahomes who I do like if I was going QB  
Amtoft : 4/27/2017 6:34 pm : link
then I would bet Eli may be in his last year as a Giant
i'm fine with them drafting someone in the first round  
RasputinPrime : 4/27/2017 6:35 pm : link
or trading the pick. As long as it is one or the other.
RE: If they trade up to take Mahomes who I do like if I was going QB  
djm : 4/27/2017 6:35 pm : link
In comment 13445550 Amtoft said:
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then I would bet Eli may be in his last year as a Giant


That's my take too. I just don't it but there were signs of trouble last season.
RE: If they trade up to take Mahomes who I do like if I was going QB  
McNally's_Nuts : 4/27/2017 6:35 pm : link
In comment 13445550 Amtoft said:
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then I would bet Eli may be in his last year as a Giant


He's under contract for the next 3 seasons. Why would he do that?
Id lay our failures last year on offense at Mac's feet much  
732NYG : 4/27/2017 6:35 pm : link
more than Eli, and now he wants to trade up in a terrible WB class when Eli has 3 years left on his contract? That's just stupid, I'm sorry.
Humoring This  
burtmanjack : 4/27/2017 6:36 pm : link
How high would they have to go?

What would that cost?

Seems unlikely to me. Prudence should outweigh desire given the likely prohibitive cost.
QB*  
732NYG : 4/27/2017 6:36 pm : link
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RE: Like I said on another thread  
adamg : 4/27/2017 6:36 pm : link
In comment 13445547 djm said:
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If they trade up this has to mean that not only do the giants think Eli's end is closer than we might think and they are concerned with Eli's current level of play. Why trade up unless you want to upgrade sooner rather than later?


Sounds like that'd be the case. Especially if it's Mac leading the charge. Coached Eli intimately for a few years; he'd know better than anybody except maybe Sullivan.
Love Mahomes  
TheMick7 : 4/27/2017 6:37 pm : link
He is who I was hoping they would pursue if the QB in the first round rumors were true!
I'd have to consider  
Mr. Nickels : 4/27/2017 6:37 pm : link
my fandom if they did something as recklessly stupid as this.

I have a feeling they are going this route all offseason they've been sorta bashing Eli and now the memorabilia scandal..
Maybe  
burtmanjack : 4/27/2017 6:37 pm : link
this is just a smokescreen to prevent the backlash that a Bolles pick would otherworldly bring.




Just kidding.
RE: RE: If they trade up to take Mahomes who I do like if I was going QB  
Devon : 4/27/2017 6:37 pm : link
In comment 13445555 McNally's_Nuts said:
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In comment 13445550 Amtoft said:


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then I would bet Eli may be in his last year as a Giant



He's under contract for the next 3 seasons. Why would he do that?


There's some dead money hit involved, but they can cut him after this season.

Frankly, if they draft a QB in R1, even without a trade up, that's what needs to happen -- and they need to commit to it, no cold feet, no matter how this season goes.
This  
AcidTest : 4/27/2017 6:37 pm : link
is what I said two months ago, but would Reese and Mara go along, especially given the steep price? I meant it in jest. Next year's #1 would likely have to be included, along with at least a #2 this year. I would hate it. Mahomes is a gunslinger, from an offense that has never produced an NFL QB.


Reese trades up for Mahomes - ( New Window )
one thing to take him  
AnnapolisMike : 4/27/2017 6:38 pm : link
Another to trade up....that would almost be like throwing in the towel with Eli as you are giving up resources that enable the team to win now.
After last year  
Big Rick in FL : 4/27/2017 6:38 pm : link
Getting jumped for Conklin & Floyd I think the Giants are throwing names out to confuse teams. Don't think anybody has an idea of what we are going to do. Should I say what we want to do.
Drafting him at 23....Would be ok.....If he really is the future  
George from PA : 4/27/2017 6:40 pm : link
We get 5 years.....It is what it is.

Trading up for him.....

Means McAdoo has real concerns about Eli.....
RE: After last year  
732NYG : 4/27/2017 6:40 pm : link
In comment 13445567 Big Rick in FL said:
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Getting jumped for Conklin & Floyd I think the Giants are throwing names out to confuse teams. Don't think anybody has an idea of what we are going to do. Should I say what we want to do.


I agree. We've been hearing they're attached to 100 guys this week when last season, it was obvious that they were all over Conklin and Floyd. Hey, if it works and someone jumps us to pick someone we don't want, I'm all for it.
Trading up for a QB in round 1  
steve in ky : 4/27/2017 6:41 pm : link
is all but conceding they aren't really going for a Super Bowl win. Much to early to give up on that IMO.

This team is built to where they are a few good pieces away from at least having a real chance at making a run at a ring. Why waste this defense without at least doing all they can with surrounding Eli with a little more talent on the offensive end?
Well  
burtmanjack : 4/27/2017 6:41 pm : link
if the QB thing didn't work out maybe he could pitch.
F$&k No!!  
Bleedin Blue : 4/27/2017 6:42 pm : link
They want to trade up for a QB do it next year not with this class!!! Definitely a remote thrower!
I have to say  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 4/27/2017 6:42 pm : link
I'm not anti-mahomet. The kid has moxie. I would not want to trade up to get him, but I will not be unhappy if he is the pick. He can learn for two years and take over in year three. Aaron Rodgers, Part 2.
Of course,  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 4/27/2017 6:42 pm : link
that should read anti- Mahomes!
Big fan  
Dodge : 4/27/2017 6:43 pm : link
of snagging that kid.

RE: my reaction would be something like this  
JCin332 : 4/27/2017 6:44 pm : link
In comment 13445537 Giantsfan79 said:
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For me this x 1000...
Rapoport is tweeting that a lot of teams are calling around KC  
adamg : 4/27/2017 6:44 pm : link
reportedly seems the most interested in getting a top 10.

KC fans were tweeting that it was to land Mahomes. So... wtf knows what is going to happen. Should be dramatic eithe rway.
I wouldn't do it, but it's not that crazy either  
Go Terps : 4/27/2017 6:45 pm : link
It makes sense for McAdoo, a QB guy, to want a fresh lump of clay he can mold. It also may be worth considering that our backup QBs are both excellent athletes like Mahomes is. In that sense, I completely agree with the concept of having three athletic QBs on the depth chart...to me that provides a lot more insurance at the position than if you have different types of players there.

Regardless of whether this happens in this draft, it does (if accurate) tell us where McAdoo's head is. He wants a different type of QB than what Eli is. Given the type of game played today, I can't say I blame him.

That said, this makes me feel old. Where the hell do the years go?
Could just be smoke  
Mike in NY : 4/27/2017 6:45 pm : link
To drum up interest for a trade up
I think this is a smokescreen.  
Mr. Bungle : 4/27/2017 6:46 pm : link
We'll see.
RE: This  
Devon : 4/27/2017 6:46 pm : link
In comment 13445564 AcidTest said:
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is what I said two months ago, but would Reese and Mara go along, especially given the steep price? I meant it in jest. Next year's #1 would likely have to be included, along with at least a #2 this year. I would hate it. Mahomes is a gunslinger, from an offense that has never produced an NFL QB.
Reese trades up for Mahomes - ( New Window )


They'd have to likely trade with the Bills or higher, so it might end up even worse than you're projecting.

McAdoo may love him, but this would be insane for this player. Everyone should have to bet their jobs on it, it's so ridiculous.
Slinging info preparing for a trade back in case all  
Saos1n : 4/27/2017 6:46 pm : link
Targets are gone? Mahomes had been picking up steam so let's put our name in the hat? Maybe not... maybe so
Great long term...poor short term!  
edavisiii : 4/27/2017 6:46 pm : link
Mac want "HIS QB" Eli was Tom Cs guy and I think Mac likes mobile guys.....I don't like it short term because we are close!
It would seem a complete waste of a pick  
SomeFan : 4/27/2017 6:46 pm : link
to me. Aren't there better QBs coming out next year? No one shoukd be so sure of a QB this year that you woukd trade up.
Seth  
AcidTest : 4/27/2017 6:48 pm : link
Russell of Baylor is very similar to Mahomes. If he's healthy, he's a fine option late on day three. This is ridiculous.
Wouldn't mind Mahomes  
jeff57 : 4/27/2017 6:48 pm : link
But not on a trade up.
That's very interesting info, Capt. Don, thanks!  
81_Great_Dane : 4/27/2017 6:50 pm : link
If they draft Mahomes, then to some degree that pick dictates the next few years of the franchise. That tells you they're looking for Mahomes to step in as starting QB in 2019 or 2020 -- 2021 at the latest.

If he's Aaron Rodgers to Eli's Brett Favre, then that's the end of the Eli era and we have the pleasure of watching Mahomes for years to come, health and luck permitting, and we could be watching a consistent contender.

Or, if Mahomes is Dave Brown, you're looking at years out of the Lombardi hunt. The Giants would be on a treadmill, playing the new Kent Grahams and Danny Kannells until they find a real QB. They could get lucky and find one cheap, as they did with Kerry Collins, or pay dearly for one, as they did with Eli.
RE: I think this is a smokescreen.  
Emil : 4/27/2017 6:50 pm : link
In comment 13445591 Mr. Bungle said:
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We'll see.


Agreed
RE: one thing to take him  
Gmen4Life21 : 4/27/2017 6:55 pm : link
In comment 13445566 AnnapolisMike said:
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Another to trade up....that would almost be like throwing in the towel with Eli as you are giving up resources that enable the team to win now.


This. Plus the cost of trading up when trying to add to a team ready to contend now.
We start with info that came from a friend of friend, no  
3putt : 4/27/2017 6:55 pm : link
attribution and after a few posts some of you are running with this like it's gold.

Calm the f*** down.
RE: We start with info that came from a friend of friend, no  
GiantGolfer : 4/27/2017 6:57 pm : link
In comment 13445616 3putt said:
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attribution and after a few posts some of you are running with this like it's gold.

Calm the f*** down.


The same info came from the media too.
Mahomes  
Phil in LA : 4/27/2017 6:59 pm : link
Reminded me of Favre and Rogers, and makes incredible sense for McAdoo.
RE: Mahomes  
jeff57 : 4/27/2017 7:00 pm : link
In comment 13445624 Phil in LA said:
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Reminded me of Favre and Rogers, and makes incredible sense for McAdoo.

More Favre than Rogers.
The Giants are "working the phones"  
BillT : 4/27/2017 7:00 pm : link
Just like every other team is. It's what you do so you're ready for whatever comes along.
RE: RE: I think this is a smokescreen.  
Gmen4Life21 : 4/27/2017 7:01 pm : link
In comment 13445603 Emil said:
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We'll see.



Agreed

Yeah he's expected to go top 10, we're not moving up that many picks. If he or a QB they love slides to us I think it possible. Still think they want a Day 1 starter with the 1st pick.
McAdoo can't pick a suit,  
Motley Two : 4/27/2017 7:01 pm : link
can't pick more than 5 plays a game from his diner menu and now his bosses would let him pick a QB in the first round?

Yikes.
If the Giants are not in win now mode  
Steve in South Jersey : 4/27/2017 7:01 pm : link
they might as well trade Eli. I would be very disappointed with a QB in round 1 this year.
Fuggetaboutit  
Sec 103 : 4/27/2017 7:03 pm : link
!!!
RE: RE: We start with info that came from a friend of friend, no  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/27/2017 7:03 pm : link
In comment 13445619 GiantGolfer said:
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In comment 13445616 3putt said:


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attribution and after a few posts some of you are running with this like it's gold.

Calm the f*** down.



The same info came from the media too.


Which doesn't necessarily make it more credible. Rumors are rumors. This time of year it's more difficult to trust what you hear.

And it might be 100% true McAdoo loves Mahomes. Coaches have opinions on college players all the time. Going through the process of trying to move up is no small task, and it's not in keeping with how the Giants operate at all.
When did McAdoo coach Favre?  
Mr. Bungle : 4/27/2017 7:04 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: I think this is a smokescreen.  
KingBlue : 4/27/2017 7:08 pm : link
In comment 13445630 Gmen4Life21 said:
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In comment 13445591 Mr. Bungle said:


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We'll see.



Agreed


Yeah he's expected to go top 10, we're not moving up that many picks. If he or a QB they love slides to us I think it possible. Still think they want a Day 1 starter with the 1st pick.


What the hell are you talking about... where exactly is Mahomes expected to go top ten?
RE: When did McAdoo coach Favre?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/27/2017 7:08 pm : link
In comment 13445640 Mr. Bungle said:
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Who said he did?
RE: If the Giants are not in win now mode  
jeff57 : 4/27/2017 7:11 pm : link
In comment 13445634 Steve in South Jersey said:
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they might as well trade Eli. I would be very disappointed with a QB in round 1 this year.


There's nothing wrong with planning ahead. Packers taking Rogers is a classic example. But I wouldn't trade up to do it.
RE: RE: RE: We start with info that came from a friend of friend, no  
GiantGolfer : 4/27/2017 7:12 pm : link
In comment 13445638 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 13445619 GiantGolfer said:


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In comment 13445616 3putt said:


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attribution and after a few posts some of you are running with this like it's gold.

Calm the f*** down.



The same info came from the media too.



Which doesn't necessarily make it more credible. Rumors are rumors. This time of year it's more difficult to trust what you hear.

And it might be 100% true McAdoo loves Mahomes. Coaches have opinions on college players all the time. Going through the process of trying to move up is no small task, and it's not in keeping with how the Giants operate at all.


Not seeing what your point is. I understand how and why the Giants operate. I was replying to the original comment that we should disregard this rumor because it was from a "friend of a friend."

I can't imagine  
colin : 4/27/2017 7:14 pm : link
A move that would upset me more. Simms/Handley-esque. In my mind you're 2-3 players away from a Super Bowl. A move like this is foregoing those 2-3 players (1st rounder and probably a second or 3rd rounder), and thusly, the present.

Maybe they're looking to move up for McCaffrey or Howard? I'm just trying to rationalize. God I hope this isn't the case.
RE: Drafting him at 23....Would be ok.....If he really is the future  
Mark from Jersey : 4/27/2017 7:21 pm : link
In comment 13445570 George from PA said:
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Means McAdoo has real concerns about Eli.....
Yes.
RE: RE: When did McAdoo coach Favre?  
Mr. Bungle : 4/27/2017 7:21 pm : link
In comment 13445645 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Who said he did?

I inferred from Phil's post that Mahomes makes incredible sense for McAdoo because Mahomes reminds Phil of the last two Packers' franchise QBs.

Considering Rodgers' and Favre's games are considerably different, I didn't know what else was the common thread between the two of them other than the Packers.
So...  
BigBlueShock : 4/27/2017 7:23 pm : link
Every move they've made so far this offseason suggests that they are in win now mode, and with several glaring holes to yet be filled, they are not only going to use a 1st on a QB that will sit the bench for at least two seasons, but they will also give up other picks to move up? Yeah, I'm not buying
I don't expect a QB early  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 4/27/2017 7:23 pm : link
That said, it wouldn't surprise me if Eli only played one or two more years. A lot of you seem to be banking on the notion that Eli is playing for 3 more years and even beyond, but that's far from a given.

If the Giants target a QB early, you can bet your booty that they know something we don't.
I said in my post yesterday comparing to 83 draft  
32_Razor : 4/27/2017 7:24 pm : link
that teams are going to draft qb's in first rd.
It would go against the Giants usual philosophy of 'get a player  
Marty in Albany : 4/27/2017 7:25 pm : link
to help us win the Super Bowl THIS year, not 5 years down the road.'
.  
arcarsenal : 4/27/2017 7:25 pm : link
If he was there @ 23 and they pulled the trigger I'd understand it.. I wouldn't love it, but I'd understand it.

Trading up for him? Not so much.
reese though doesn't have the balls to trade up for Mahomes  
32_Razor : 4/27/2017 7:26 pm : link
he will never do it. I want Mason Foster.
RE: reese though doesn't have the balls to trade up for Mahomes  
Devon : 4/27/2017 7:28 pm : link
In comment 13445696 32_Razor said:
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he will never do it. I want Mason Foster.


I would rather look at it as Reese having too many functioning brain cells to do it.
You  
AcidTest : 4/27/2017 7:29 pm : link
have to hope the Giants are just doing their due diligence, and confirming that the cost is much too high.
RE: reese though doesn't have the balls to trade up for Mahomes  
BigBlueShock : 4/27/2017 7:30 pm : link
In comment 13445696 32_Razor said:
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he will never do it. I want Mason Foster.

He doesn't have the balls? Wtf? Maybe he doesn't have the balls because it would be a stupid move? Nope, that would go against your anti Reese agenda, right?
BBI would be unbearable on game day (more so than usual)  
jlukes : 4/27/2017 7:30 pm : link
if we draft a QB early
RE: BBI would be unbearable on game day (more so than usual)  
BigBlueShock : 4/27/2017 7:32 pm : link
In comment 13445707 jlukes said:
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if we draft a QB early

Could you imagine? It may be worth it just to watch the place implode. Pure entertainment
that pick  
well...bye TC : 4/27/2017 7:32 pm : link
is a 2017 season ender
mcadoo  
annexOPR : 4/27/2017 7:34 pm : link
wants his QB. this QB has Rodgers' upside ... a more mobile / shotgun QB fits better in this offense ... and would somewhat negate the weak pass protection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP_-BGcDv-w

Eli would be sacked 3 different times on that play.
RE: that pick  
BigBlueShock : 4/27/2017 7:34 pm : link
In comment 13445711 well...bye TC said:
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is a 2017 season ender

Exhibit A...
RE: RE: BBI would be unbearable on game day (more so than usual)  
jlukes : 4/27/2017 7:34 pm : link
In comment 13445708 BigBlueShock said:
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if we draft a QB early


Could you imagine? It may be worth it just to watch the place implode. Pure entertainment


I mean we already had people screaming to put in Nassib. Good lord it would be epic. A sick part of me is almost rooting for it to happen
RE: If the Giants are not in win now mode  
Diver_Down : 4/27/2017 7:35 pm : link
In comment 13445634 Steve in South Jersey said:
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they might as well trade Eli. I would be very disappointed with a QB in round 1 this year.


I wonder if some of BBI actually follows this team. Eli has a no-trade clause. If he's healthy, he under center. Ownership will not allow a 2-time SB MVP making $15 mil/yr to ride the pine in favor of what a 2nd year HC on a 3 year contract wants.
I dont want a QB in round 1  
annexOPR : 4/27/2017 7:36 pm : link
but it is by no means a "season ender". f'n ridiculous ... can't wait for the draft
Just saw this on The Players's Tribune  
JohnF : 4/27/2017 7:37 pm : link
Patrick Mahomes: NFL Draft Cover Letter

In his own words. Interesting, and perhaps some insight into this guy.
Eli has a NTC, but they could cut him after this season.  
Devon : 4/27/2017 7:39 pm : link
It's not ideal, given some of the dead money, but it's not impossible. If they commit to that, anything could happen in-season.

Keeping him around beyond this season after trading up for Mahomes, with what that will take, and continuing to pay him big money would make this situation even more wacked.
this could be the Simms exit all over again  
Steve in South Jersey : 4/27/2017 7:42 pm : link
very ugly.

RE: Eli has a NTC, but they could cut him after this season.  
jeff57 : 4/27/2017 7:43 pm : link
In comment 13445731 Devon said:
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It's not ideal, given some of the dead money, but it's not impossible. If they commit to that, anything could happen in-season.

Keeping him around beyond this season after trading up for Mahomes, with what that will take, and continuing to pay him big money would make this situation even more wacked.


Why? Rogers sat behind Favre for a couple of years.
RE: RE: Eli has a NTC, but they could cut him after this season.  
Devon : 4/27/2017 7:46 pm : link
In comment 13445750 jeff57 said:
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It's not ideal, given some of the dead money, but it's not impossible. If they commit to that, anything could happen in-season.

Keeping him around beyond this season after trading up for Mahomes, with what that will take, and continuing to pay him big money would make this situation even more wacked.



Why? Rogers sat behind Favre for a couple of years.


Even if you ignore how much of an outlier that was (and how the players were different), the Packers took Rodgers because he fell to them.

The Giants would be trading significantly valuable picks and then doubling down an tying a huge amount of cap space to Eli -- there's only so many resources a team has.
Garafolo said he would be Giants would take Mahomes at 23  
jlukes : 4/27/2017 7:47 pm : link
but doesn't think Mahomes will make it to 23.

If EA taught anything to Reese, it is that if you have conviction about a franchise QB, you do what it takes to get him
RE: RE: RE: Eli has a NTC, but they could cut him after this season.  
jeff57 : 4/27/2017 7:50 pm : link
In comment 13445764 Devon said:
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In comment 13445750 jeff57 said:


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In comment 13445731 Devon said:


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It's not ideal, given some of the dead money, but it's not impossible. If they commit to that, anything could happen in-season.

Keeping him around beyond this season after trading up for Mahomes, with what that will take, and continuing to pay him big money would make this situation even more wacked.



Why? Rogers sat behind Favre for a couple of years.



Even if you ignore how much of an outlier that was (and how the players were different), the Packers took Rodgers because he fell to them.

The Giants would be trading significantly valuable picks and then doubling down an tying a huge amount of cap space to Eli -- there's only so many resources a team has.

I've said I wouldn't trade up for him.
RE: reese though doesn't have the balls to trade up for Mahomes  
Big Rick in FL : 4/27/2017 7:51 pm : link
In comment 13445696 32_Razor said:
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he will never do it. I want Mason Foster.


We're going to draft a guy whose been in the NFL for 6 seasons? Seems like a huge set of balls to me.
RE: Garafolo said he would be Giants would take Mahomes at 23  
steve in ky : 4/27/2017 7:52 pm : link
In comment 13445767 jlukes said:
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but doesn't think Mahomes will make it to 23.

If EA taught anything to Reese, it is that if you have conviction about a franchise QB, you do what it takes to get him


Yeah but when do you give up on a QB on your roster that has already proven to be a franchise QB and gamble the teams future going for another one?

EA had it a little easier in that he didn't really have a franchise QB on the roster so it was worth trading for a guy that he was convinced was just that.
A friend of an asshat is a friend of mine  
jeff57 : 4/27/2017 7:56 pm : link
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I would hate it!  
Manning10 : 4/27/2017 8:00 pm : link
The guy is just not that good. He played in a shit conference that was more of a touch tackle league with no defenses, and he throws off his back foot 70% of the time.
Thanks for sharing  
Hot Rod in Florida : 4/27/2017 8:00 pm : link
I don't doubt the information. However, at draft time the wise person knows this could be good draft strategy to induce another team to jump ahead of us and take someone we don't truly intend to take. On the other hand, if this is a legitimate intention, which may or may not be realized, then there's a mole who needs to be discovered and dealt with severely. Loose lips sink ships!
I can understand  
fkap : 4/27/2017 8:03 pm : link
a "NOOOOOOO. Not (insert QB pick here)."

but most of the NOOOO is all about Eli has 2 or 3 years left.

Asking any QB, including Eli, to carry the team in his last sunset years is insane. So what you're asking for is decent QB play. Why would anyone settle for 2 or 3 years, if they can get 10 years? If you don't think M, or whomever, can get you decent QB play, say so. Eli's numbered days don't have anything to do with the quality of any QB potentially picked.

It is rare that a low first round, or below, QB is really a keeper. IF you think there's one there, and you're on the clock, only a fucking moron says no, Eli has 2 or 3 more years left in him. It is all about IF you think there's someone there, and NOT about Eli's numbered days. Very few people actually say anything specific. just the mantra of 'next year is so much better for QB'
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steve in ky : 4/27/2017 8:07 pm : link
There is a difference of being on the clock and seeing "that guy" sitting there and trading extra picks to move up and go after him.

You would have to be convinced that it wasn't possible to win another championship with Eli even if he was given some more weapons with those picks.


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