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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/27/2017 7:53 pm
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What it means is that they can go w 12 personel  
LauderdaleMatty : 4/27/2017 11:23 pm : link
More than 5% of the time.
RE: Dallas go OL?  
jeff57 : 4/27/2017 11:23 pm : link
In comment 13447378 old man said:
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Corner the market?
Njoku for Whittens replacement?

Taco. Browns go Njoku
Foster's medical  
stillpoe : 4/27/2017 11:23 pm : link
might be a lot worse than originally imagined. Def wouldn't mind a trade up for the right player but would be okay to stay put due to the depth of the draft.
Good pick for Dallas  
jeff57 : 4/27/2017 11:23 pm : link
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Let me be the first to ask  
SomeFan : 4/27/2017 11:24 pm : link
Can Engram block Taco bell?
Ha Ha.. I picked Taco for the Cowboys in the BBI mock draft  
Rick in Dallas : 4/27/2017 11:24 pm : link
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Hey, old friends. Hope all has been well with you.  
Q v2.0 : 4/27/2017 11:24 pm : link
Nice pick for the 11-5 freshman coach who cut his teeth in the TE position in GB. Engram gets to watch Ellison block inline, and Marshall on the perimeter, from mini-camp until Thanksgiving. ;-)
Texas Taco.  
old man : 4/27/2017 11:25 pm : link
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RE: Foster's medical  
jeff57 : 4/27/2017 11:25 pm : link
In comment 13447391 stillpoe said:
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might be a lot worse than originally imagined. Def wouldn't mind a trade up for the right player but would be okay to stay put due to the depth of the draft.


Not the medical. Too many off the field questions like Cook.
This draft needs more McKinley more than it  
SomeFan : 4/27/2017 11:25 pm : link
need more cowbell.
RE: So who sits, Engram, OBJ, Shep, or Marshall?  
BigBlueShock : 4/27/2017 11:25 pm : link
In comment 13447287 PatersonPlank said:
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If Engram can block then I'm ok, but if he can't he's just another WR because Ellison needs to be in there.

We need to draft lineman (OT/OG/DT) now.

If you honestly have to ask "who sits" in today's NFL of sub packages and match ups depending on situation, then you you need to just realize that you have no idea what you're talking about and do some homework. I'm actually shocked that this post came from you. Good lord.
some gambles in round 1  
bc4life : 4/27/2017 11:25 pm : link
Ross, Conley, Peppers....it's going to be interesting to see how those picks turn out
It''s over, Cowboys just won the NFC  
trueblueinpw : 4/27/2017 11:26 pm : link
Taco's the missing piece. Time to start planning the Super Bowl party in Big D. Only question now is weather or not Taco will be better than Charles Haley. Dallas dynasty!
RE: Good pick for Dallas  
Floyd_Fan : 4/27/2017 11:26 pm : link
In comment 13447392 jeff57 said:
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Mayock sounded unconvinced : "not a quick twitch guy"
I know Taco got a lot of love from draft 'experts'.  
Ira : 4/27/2017 11:26 pm : link
I just don't see his game translating well to the nfl.
RE: I know Taco got a lot of love from draft 'experts'.  
adamg : 4/27/2017 11:28 pm : link
In comment 13447414 Ira said:
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I just don't see his game translating well to the nfl.


I agree. I'm not high on any of the Mich linemen.
some one  
tony71 : 4/27/2017 11:28 pm : link
shoulda told Dallas that Tacos are for Tuesdays
T.J. to Pitt  
jeff57 : 4/27/2017 11:28 pm : link
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He plays over  
cokeduplt : 4/27/2017 11:28 pm : link
Tye, no more stupid one yard passes that go no where. I'm excited about the pick no defense could cover all these guys.

Now I wish we took  
SomeFan : 4/27/2017 11:29 pm : link
Njoku
Cleveland  
old man : 4/27/2017 11:30 pm : link
is doing it.
And by the way Njoku  
Dave on the UWS : 4/27/2017 11:31 pm : link
Is only 10 lbs heavier and he had blocking problems too. I suspect Engram will become serviceable as a blocker eventually. All these kids coming out of college need to be taught these days. What he has cant be taught.
Giants need to go DT or OL  
Simms11 : 4/27/2017 11:31 pm : link
in second. Wormley, McDowell, Dawkins?!
Niners trade up with Seattle  
jeff57 : 4/27/2017 11:32 pm : link
Take Foster
RE: Giants need to go DT or OL  
burtmanjack : 4/27/2017 11:32 pm : link
In comment 13447442 Simms11 said:
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in second. Wormley, McDowell, Dawkins?!


Trade up for Ramcyck/Lamp/Cam? I wasn't on board with taking them in the first, but they'd be value in the second.

Would love the Wormley pick, but I'd expect you'd have to move up to get him also.
RE: RE: So who sits, Engram, OBJ, Shep, or Marshall?  
PatersonPlank : 4/27/2017 11:33 pm : link
In comment 13447406 BigBlueShock said:
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If Engram can block then I'm ok, but if he can't he's just another WR because Ellison needs to be in there.

We need to draft lineman (OT/OG/DT) now.


If you honestly have to ask "who sits" in today's NFL of sub packages and match ups depending on situation, then you you need to just realize that you have no idea what you're talking about and do some homework. I'm actually shocked that this post came from you. Good lord.


I posted this because when I think of a 1st Rd pick its someone who is in on every play. If he can block on the running plays well then I'm thrilled with the pick. However if he is only coming on in a package with some type of passing play, then he's a situational "package" guy. I just don't like taking a situational guy in Rd 1. Rd 3 or 4 sure. So I read that Sy says the guy can block well, if this is true then sit Ellison down and we will have a huge weapon. Lord knows our OL and running game needs the help.
Also, love he went to Ole Miss  
Vanzetti : 4/27/2017 11:35 pm : link
Eli is very connected there: he is going to get the straight dope from the people in the program. And nobody knows a player better than the guys who see him every day in practice and hear about everything he does.
Wormley  
CT Charlie : 4/27/2017 11:35 pm : link
please.
Nice Dan Rooney  
Dave on the UWS : 4/27/2017 11:36 pm : link
Moment very classy by Harris and Bettis
I wanted TJ Watt  
EricJ : 4/27/2017 11:36 pm : link
damn
Anyone have a site with a summary of the trades and what the  
figgy2989 : 4/27/2017 11:37 pm : link
Picks are?
also, love that Njoku was still on the board  
Vanzetti : 4/27/2017 11:37 pm : link
that means this was the Giants guy, not a guy they settled for because he filled a need
Great  
AcidTest : 4/27/2017 11:40 pm : link
moment for the Steelers. Very nice by the NFL, Harris, and Bettis.

Didn't want Watt. Too many injuries.
RE: RE: RE: So who sits, Engram, OBJ, Shep, or Marshall?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/27/2017 11:40 pm : link
In comment 13447452 PatersonPlank said:
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In comment 13447287 PatersonPlank said:


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If Engram can block then I'm ok, but if he can't he's just another WR because Ellison needs to be in there.

We need to draft lineman (OT/OG/DT) now.


If you honestly have to ask "who sits" in today's NFL of sub packages and match ups depending on situation, then you you need to just realize that you have no idea what you're talking about and do some homework. I'm actually shocked that this post came from you. Good lord.



I posted this because when I think of a 1st Rd pick its someone who is in on every play.


The Apple pick last season kind of debunks this. So does the Kiwanuka pick years ago. There's a precedent for them doing this.
John Lynch  
SimpleMan : 4/27/2017 11:42 pm : link
is having a hell of a night. Solomon Thomas and Rueben Foster.
reuben  
madgiantscow009 : 4/27/2017 11:42 pm : link
Froster.
Saints take Ramcyzk  
jeff57 : 4/27/2017 11:43 pm : link
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A load of good players  
old man : 4/27/2017 11:44 pm : link
for rd 2. Gmen should consider a move up for an OL or DL in the top 2-5 in this round; maybe TC will take our 55 and our 4th and 5th for the 35(maybe).
Agree with Acid about injuries  
Vanzetti : 4/27/2017 11:44 pm : link
Eli has a 2-3 year window. Giants need guys who can contribute right away. Not a guy struggling to overcome injuries.
Breakdown  
SimpleMan : 4/27/2017 11:45 pm : link
" Field Yates‏Verified account @FieldYates 49s49 seconds ago

First round positional breakdown:
QB: 3
RB: 2
WR: 3
TE: 3
OL: 2
DL: 6
OLB: 2
ILB: 3
CB: 5
S: 3
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RR is a great pick at 32.  
yatqb : 4/27/2017 11:45 pm : link
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if TC was still coach  
SHO'NUFF : 4/27/2017 11:47 pm : link
Ramczyk is the pic at 23.
So do you trade up to get Cam Robinson?  
Vanzetti : 4/27/2017 11:47 pm : link
Worked with Landon Collins. Probably cost, Giants second plus two thirds and a fourth
Njoku  
stretch234 : 4/27/2017 11:48 pm : link
He is 10 lbs heavier now, but gained that weight before the combine. He played at Miami at 230-235 all season. He has yet to play any snaps at his current weight

i would rather have the guy who gave problems to the likes of AL, LSU, FL vs the ACC defenses
Seems like clockwork - every year, the draftniks expect  
jcn56 : 4/28/2017 12:21 am : link
QBs to drop like bricks, and every year, it doesn't happen.

Just too much of a QB driven (and lacking) league.
The Bears trade is an absolute all time shocker  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/28/2017 12:50 am : link
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Cook  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 4/28/2017 5:45 am : link
He is a nice player, but he will be a problem child. Plus multiple shoulder surgeries. No thank you.
Emil  
JonC : 4/28/2017 9:54 am : link
Not heard anything yet today, but his name hasn't come up before.
RE: RE: So who sits, Engram, OBJ, Shep, or Marshall?  
WillVAB : 4/28/2017 11:00 am : link
In comment 13447406 BigBlueShock said:
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If Engram can block then I'm ok, but if he can't he's just another WR because Ellison needs to be in there.

We need to draft lineman (OT/OG/DT) now.


If you honestly have to ask "who sits" in today's NFL of sub packages and match ups depending on situation, then you you need to just realize that you have no idea what you're talking about and do some homework. I'm actually shocked that this post came from you. Good lord.


The problem with this line is that the Giants roster isn't stacked enough to afford taking a role player 23 overall. The OL is talent deficient. The LBs are questionable. We lost a starting DT and we don't have a bonafide 3rd pass rusher.

If Engram ends up being what the Giants say and hope he is then it's a good pick because he'll be an every down player. If he struggles blocking and has to come off or Shep comes off it devalues the pick.
RE: RE: RE: RE: So who sits, Engram, OBJ, Shep, or Marshall?  
PatersonPlank : 4/28/2017 11:08 am : link
In comment 13447488 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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If Engram can block then I'm ok, but if he can't he's just another WR because Ellison needs to be in there.

We need to draft lineman (OT/OG/DT) now.


If you honestly have to ask "who sits" in today's NFL of sub packages and match ups depending on situation, then you you need to just realize that you have no idea what you're talking about and do some homework. I'm actually shocked that this post came from you. Good lord.



I posted this because when I think of a 1st Rd pick its someone who is in on every play.



The Apple pick last season kind of debunks this. So does the Kiwanuka pick years ago. There's a precedent for them doing this.


Kiwanuka I'll give you, but that was a few years ago now. However Apple was a necessity with the new era of the NFL. All teams need three starting corners because they are in the nickel most of the time. Apple was on the field constantly, and in fact DRC ended up playing the slot.
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