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Tye vs Adams , who is the #3 week 1?

DennyInDenville : 4/27/2017 10:59 pm
I say Adams based on size and blocking.

If Tye shows up balling though they might carry 4 TE

Or if Adams shows up and looks bad then keep Tye but I prefer Adams
Adams  
Rjanyg : 4/27/2017 11:01 pm : link
Ellison is also the FB so maybe they keep all 4 and only 5 receivers?
Remember,  
Simms11 : 4/27/2017 11:01 pm : link
Engram can play WR too and so he's kind of a hybrid and so yea, they could possibly keep 4 TEs and one less WR.
Tye?  
SLIM_ : 4/27/2017 11:03 pm : link
I think he is fighting LaCosse for a 4th spot that doesn't exist.
TEs  
AcidTest : 4/27/2017 11:10 pm : link
are Engram, Adams, and Tye. Ellison is a hybrid FB/TE. You guys are underestimating what Tye does on ST. Eli is also comfortable with him, and he has good hands.
The only way Tye stays  
LauderdaleMatty : 4/27/2017 11:10 pm : link
if Ellison plays a bunch of snaps at FB they can keep 4.

IMO though Tye will have a tough time making the roster
I don't understand the Tye hate  
montanagiant : 4/27/2017 11:14 pm : link
Sure he's not going to beat you deep like Shockey did or block like Cross. But the damn guy has been a serviceable player for us. He was never supposed to be anything more than a backup so don't blame him for the neglect at that position.
It appears McAdoo was REALLY unhappy with last year's TEs  
81_Great_Dane : 4/27/2017 11:15 pm : link
Donnell released
Ellison signed
Engram drafted in first round

IMO  
Jay on the Island : 4/27/2017 11:15 pm : link
The Giants will keep 4 TE's and no FB's. Tye is no lock as he will likely fight LaCosse for the final spot.
Tye's expendable  
jeff57 : 4/27/2017 11:22 pm : link
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you take the BPA  
bc4life : 4/27/2017 11:28 pm : link
Tye and Adams play is irrelevant.
After getting Engram and Ellison  
David B. : 4/27/2017 11:28 pm : link
I seriously hope Tye is gone.
RE: IMO  
adamg : 4/27/2017 11:30 pm : link
In comment 13447326 Jay on the Island said:
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The Giants will keep 4 TE's and no FB's. Tye is no lock as he will likely fight LaCosse for the final spot.


This. I think LaCosse is the one who lost a spot. Tye is probably going to make the team. King would be the next domino imo.
Adams is bigger, faster and a better blocker  
Ira : 4/27/2017 11:30 pm : link
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If memory serves there was chatter about Adams  
mfsd : 4/27/2017 11:35 pm : link
being slow picking up the playbook. If he comes back with a better handle on the offense after a full offseason and another camp, I imagine he's the 3rd guy in the rotation.

Tye was a nice find as a UDFA, but should be no more than a depth guy
Lacosse  
MotownGIANTS : 4/27/2017 11:44 pm : link
Is gone. Adams is 4 on the depth chart....Tye is the backup to Ellison. This pick really effects the WRs. Lewis and King chances at PT just got slashed
RE: I don't understand the Tye hate  
trueblueinpw : 4/27/2017 11:55 pm : link
In comment 13447316 montanagiant said:
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Sure he's not going to beat you deep like Shockey did or block like Cross. But the damn guy has been a serviceable player for us. He was never supposed to be anything more than a backup so don't blame him for the neglect at that position.


Agree. I loved seeing a Seawolf out there for Big Blue. But let's be honest, if Tye isn't with the Giants then he probably won't be in the NFL next season.
hopefully  
Mr. Nickels : 4/28/2017 12:54 am : link
Engram Ellison and Lacosse
Luckily, the Giants never suffer injuries between May and September...  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/28/2017 2:07 am : link
... so we can confidently speculate about bottom-of-roster decisions in April. ;o)

Anyway, let's assume that everyone stays healthy and progresses (Adams) or doesn't progress (Tye) as expected. Then Adams should have an edge; but it counts for something that Tye has been a somewhat productive NFL player for two years, after catching on as a tryout candidate from Stony Brook.

One thing to watch for over the next two days is whether the Giants draft a developmental QB. If they don't, that potentially leaves room for an extra body in the TE/FB space (which, with Engram on board, is now the TE/FB/WR space). If they do, roster space will be pretty tight - unless he's another Rhett Bomar and ends up on the practice squad.
Tavarres King doesn't play specials  
adamg : 4/28/2017 2:09 am : link
so his seat is heating as we type...
bye bye Will Tye  
Victor in CT : 4/28/2017 8:16 am : link
Adams has way more upside. That's fine as a #3.
So many guys on BBI  
81_Great_Dane : 4/28/2017 8:38 pm : link
talk about guys like Donnell and Tye as if they shot their dogs. These guys are huge overachievers. They're projects. Donnell was a UDFA making a position change. Neither is from a major college football power, neither one cost the Giants a draft pick. They didn't turn out to be Kellen Winslow, but the fact they even became adequate NFL players means they beat the odds.

It's one thing to beat up on guys who have great talent but aren't trying very hard. It's another to beat up on guys who have marginal talent but seem to be working hard -- even if they're not entirely effective.

Tye and Donnell ain't done nothin' to me except play their hearts out for the team I root for. I'm glad the Giants are getting better players, but I don't gloat over them losing their jobs.
If will Johnson isn't on the 53 I think Tye stays  
DennyInDenville : 4/28/2017 9:05 pm : link
I'm starting to think Engram will get a lot of looks at WR as well
RE: So many guys on BBI  
montanagiant : 4/28/2017 9:07 pm : link
In comment 13450104 81_Great_Dane said:
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talk about guys like Donnell and Tye as if they shot their dogs. These guys are huge overachievers. They're projects. Donnell was a UDFA making a position change. Neither is from a major college football power, neither one cost the Giants a draft pick. They didn't turn out to be Kellen Winslow, but the fact they even became adequate NFL players means they beat the odds.

It's one thing to beat up on guys who have great talent but aren't trying very hard. It's another to beat up on guys who have marginal talent but seem to be working hard -- even if they're not entirely effective.

Tye and Donnell ain't done nothin' to me except play their hearts out for the team I root for. I'm glad the Giants are getting better players, but I don't gloat over them losing their jobs.

Excellently stated!
Yeah, nothing personal against Tye  
Cenotaph : 4/28/2017 9:15 pm : link
Just don't see him having much of a role on this team anymore...He was a very receiving oriented TE, which is Engram's wheelhouse and obviously the Giants are looking for more production at that spot. Plus side is, even with him being not highly regarded as a blocker, he likely won't be much worse than Tye. They brought in Ellison for a blocking improvement, and Adams has good size and should be a decent blocker, with the potential to contribute. I just don't see where Tye fits - he's not the best receiving option, and possibly the worst blocking option (if used right, Engram won't be blocking all too often, but he'll have to run block sometimes and will certainly get some snaps in pass pro). Not knocking the guy, I think he can fill a role and help a team he needs more of a receiving TE, but with our recent adds he's no more than the #3 option, and we have a guy we're hoping can step up a bit there, and at worst is a better option as a blocker, which is more important from the #3 TE and especially with a smaller, quicker receiving TE like Engram.
My guess Ellison full time TE no FB duty,with adams at 2nd and back up  
idiotsavant : 4/28/2017 9:28 pm : link
and Tye as a bad assed pro bowl NY Football Giants old school fullback.

if you lack roster space - Engram bumps a WR  
idiotsavant : 4/28/2017 9:30 pm : link
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people are conflating wr/te/hb and blocking catching FB  
idiotsavant : 4/28/2017 9:31 pm : link
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RE: Tye?  
mrvax : 4/28/2017 10:42 pm : link
In comment 13447239 SLIM_ said:
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I think he is fighting LaCosse for a 4th spot that doesn't exist.


I think they keep 3 TE's and Tye is done.
RE: So many guys on BBI  
mrvax : 4/28/2017 10:47 pm : link
In comment 13450104 81_Great_Dane said:
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talk about guys like Donnell and Tye as if they shot their dogs. These guys are huge overachievers. They're projects. Donnell was a UDFA making a position change. Neither is from a major college football power, neither one cost the Giants a draft pick. They didn't turn out to be Kellen Winslow, but the fact they even became adequate NFL players means they beat the odds.

It's one thing to beat up on guys who have great talent but aren't trying very hard. It's another to beat up on guys who have marginal talent but seem to be working hard -- even if they're not entirely effective.

Tye and Donnell ain't done nothin' to me except play their hearts out for the team I root for. I'm glad the Giants are getting better players, but I don't gloat over them losing their jobs.



You make a good point but fans get pissed off when any player regardless of draft stock doesn't make a lot of solid plays and often makes devastating mistakes.
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