Who Do You Like For Day Two?

mac ball demands bigger or at least great anchoring linesmen on O. So of that list maybe 3. Pugh, Dawkins, Asiata.

As we saw, as much as we love Pugh as a guard, even he got pushed back within the framework of never ending obvious pass plays.

all 7 rounds.

If you are using the word 'depth' as early as round 2, you fucked up.

Hopefully Moton or Feeney will still be there.

I like anyone who Sy likes. He knows a lot.

In comment 13447857 mavric said:

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If anything, drafting an o-lineman is more for insurance if we fail to re-sign Pugh, Richburg, or Fluker.

The same can be said for the LB unit, as a number of players on the unit have contracts that will be ending this year.

In comment 13447948 Beer Man said:

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In comment 13447857 mavric said: Quote: If anything, drafting an o-lineman is more for insurance if we fail to re-sign Pugh, Richburg, or Fluker. The same can be said for the LB unit, as a number of players on the unit have contracts that will be ending this year.

Jerry should take note, the two units that he has done the worst job of finding talent, are the two units of most need.

help.

In comment 13447874 idiotsavant said:

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all 7 rounds. If you are using the word 'depth' as early as round 2, you fucked up.

Disagree. A third de is an obvious need and a great way to rotate in fresh players. A great cover lb is a great need on passing packages. Another cab would be a great way to cover four wr packages outside of your base. All are great tools for a championship team.

Lamp
Wormley
Willis
Lawson
Asiata
Hunt
Perine

...the BPA. Don't force anything, let the board come to you.

All the names being thrown around this is crazy. Whether they trade up or not, they will land a solid player. One of the more exciting Day 2's I can remember. Almost feels more exciting than Rd 1.

Do you guys think we see more players skipping bowl games considering it seemingly had zero impact on Fournette and McCaffrey?

In comment 13448017 Torrag said:

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...the BPA. Don't force anything, let the board come to you.

Couldn't agree more. Way too many good players. But if Reese and Co. have a players rated in the 20's falling to the 40's I think they might make a move. Looks like the best rd to trade up to will be the 3rd. 2nd rounders that fall into the top of the 3rd could be the sweet spot.

In comment 13448086 DanMetroMan said:

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Do you guys think we see more players skipping bowl games considering it seemingly had zero impact on Fournette and McCaffrey?

Yes no question. On Mike and Mike this morning they talked about it and Golic mentioned a good point. If the team doesn't even make a bowl game, why not sit out the last game or two of the season. Bad trend starting.

Got any names for us today? Thanks!

In comment 13448099 GuzzaBlue said:

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In comment 13448017 Torrag said: Quote: ...the BPA. Don't force anything, let the board come to you. Move up for the right player but I don't want to sacrifice next years picks. Couldn't agree more. Way too many good players. But if Reese and Co. have a players rated in the 20's falling to the 40's I think they might make a move. Looks like the best rd to trade up to will be the 3rd. 2nd rounders that fall into the top of the 3rd could be the sweet spot.

plug in @ guard day 1

to the first pick today to take Lamp.

OL & RB. BPA among those three. No one with behavioral issues in these rounds.

Lots of players I really like that are left, my wish list, in order:

Jordan Willis
Chris Wormley
Budda Baker
Kevin King
Dalvin Cook
Tyus Bowser
Forrest Lamp
Cam Robinson
DeMarcus Walker
Isaac Asiata

At first glance, it would appear that Bowser and Asiata have the best chance of slipping to #56. Backflips would be in order if anyone from Willis-Cook made it to us. In terms of immediate impact, Baker would be awesome - he was the glue guy in the UW secondary not to mention that he could play both FS and slot corner if needed.

Reese went up to get Collins. Wonder if there's a chance he'll move up to grab a guy they thought was a "first row" guy that fell?

Obvious - Lamp and Robinson
Realistic - Wormley or Brantley

In comment 13448212 Jay on the Island said:

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to the first pick today to take Lamp.

Or Davis Webb

Robinson or Dawkins, but an OL who can compete -- not just for this year but the future with Pugh's status up in the air.

But I doubt they will. Need to address OL, and then in rd 3, either RB/CB/DL. I'd be thrilled if they could get one of the CBs in this draft...I feel the D-line needs to be beefed up though.

RB and DL can also be addressed out of the draft (Blount, some of the fA DTs)... we still have a few holes to fill but if we can go OL in rd 2, and address the otehr positions, I'd be estatic.

Probably have to trade up.

I think Wormley is worth giving up the Round 4 pick. I don't know about giving up the Round 3 pick. Maybe.

Lamp, I don't know if I would trade up though, if I thought I could get Dawkins. Now, as I think about it, I would not trade up for Lamp.

Wormley, yes, I would trade up for him. JPP, Wormley, Snacks, Vernon. That seems to be a killer D-Line and everyone would be signed too. Plus DT is a "need" position since Hankins went to Indy (never to be heard from again ...)

1. Engram
2. Robinson
3. Adams

Would be an awesome haul.

like Wormley or Brantley.

You really don't know your team then.

to move up in round 2 if he wants to get a decent O lineman....

We're set much deeper in the Round than last year and our 4th rounder is buried in the backwater due to the 'walkie talkie' penalty from the dallas game. No way should we trade our 3rd in this Draft.

Mixon, Kamara, Dawkins, bunch of others. Want to get a running back today.

So they would have to trade a 3rd to move up significantly.

Maybe the 4th would bump them up 2 or 3 spots. Maybe.

With a DT and a CB, they can consider the night a success. I don't see the need to force an OL pick or a RB pick.

With the reduced practice time and spread offenses prevalent in college FB, few- if any- OL will be prepared to step in immediately and start. Thus, the Giants are better off drafting a development OL type who would benefit from a year in the weight room and the film room.

They would also be better served seeing if a bruising RB will fall to round 4- the tough yardage type. If one does, draft him day 3. If not, sign Blount. Why use a premium pick on a guy who will have a limited role in the offense and isn't likely to become a feature back even in the future?

Instead, focus on developing depth again. As FA approaches for OBJ and some other young guys, the Giants are not going to have lots of cap space going forward. Thus, be proactive- draft the guys who will replace the vets going forward- and be the depth now.

A good CB who can be the 4th CB now could allow the Giants to let DRC walk next year- and help keep the cap in balance.

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Think there's a decent that Reese will pull a Landon Collins in round 2 and trade up several spots. Think they'd like either Willis or Bowser and they won't get either at 55.

If they don't trade up, I'll go with Dion Dawkins or Taylor Moton in Rd 2 and Derek Rivers or Daeshon Hall in Rd 3.

There's no one I really think is worth trading up for...at least right now. After a few picks go by and the trade demands drop a bit, then I might be tempted to move up.

.How do people feel about Obi?
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In comment 13448619 jeff57 said:

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Wouldn't trade up for him but he'd be on my shortlist when we pick

Best player available.

I think the Giants will look for OL, LB, maybe a RB and a QB but they will go BPA.

If they can sign Blount then that takes care of one of the positions.

In comment 13448255 OlyWABigBlue said:

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Lots of players I really like that are left, my wish list, in order: Jordan Willis Chris Wormley Budda Baker Kevin King Dalvin Cook Tyus Bowser Forrest Lamp Cam Robinson DeMarcus Walker Isaac Asiata At first glance, it would appear that Bowser and Asiata have the best chance of slipping to #56. Backflips would be in order if anyone from Willis-Cook made it to us. In terms of immediate impact, Baker would be awesome - he was the glue guy in the UW secondary not to mention that he could play both FS and slot corner if needed.

I like this list a lot

Just make a list of all the DTs and that is our board for this pick. This is where we go get our DTs in round 2 and 3. Mostly 2, but sometimes 3. We are a lock to get a DT no matter what today. Ohhh wait I mean my inside info says DT is likely!

DE Jordan Willis
DT Chris Wormley
FS Budda Baker
CB/FS Desmond King
CB Kevin King
CB Chidobe Awuzie
CB Quincy Wilson
RB Dalvin Cook
RB Alvin Kamara
OLB Tyus Bowser
OLB Zach Cunningham
OG Forrest Lamp
OT Cam Robinson
FS Marcus Williams
FS Obi Melifonwu


I mean that's a long list....meaning the Giants won't take anyone from my list :P





MAYBE. MAYBE. MAYBE Malik McDowell but that is entirely up to the scouts who have spoken to him and those around him.

And VERY pissed if we took a QB in the second round

I could see them trading up a few spots for Cunningham.
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DE Jordan Willis
DT Chris Wormley
FS Budda Baker
CB/FS Desmond King
CB Kevin King
CB Chidobe Awuzie
CB Quincy Wilson
RB Dalvin Cook* - off the field would probably leave him off of the Giants board
RB Alvin Kamara
OLB Tyus Bowser
OLB Zach Cunningham
OG Forrest Lamp
OT Cam Robinson
FS Marcus Williams
FS Obi Melifonwu


I mean that's a long list....meaning the Giants won't take anyone from my list :P





MAYBE. MAYBE. MAYBE Malik McDowell but that is entirely up to the scouts who have spoken to him and those around him.

84 DE Jordan Willis – 6’5/250 – Kansas State
84 DT Chris Wormley – Michigan – 6’5/298
84 G/C Forrest Lamp – 6’4/309 – Western Kentucky
83 G/C Cam Robinson – 6’5/328 – Alabama
83 RB Dalvin Cook – 5’10/210 - Florida State

I would stand pat until only of these were left and then I would move up to get one...I think all of these guys are round 1 talent and would make a difference.

DT Wormley - one of my favourites. Wouldn't mind a trade up.
DT Tomlinson - ACL issues but last surgery 2013
LB Bowser
DE WIllis or Walker
S\CB Desmond King - versatile & also pretty good returner
S Melfonwu
CB Jordan Lewis would be great as a Slot guy
OT Roderick Johnson could maybe develop into a LT
OT Conor McDermott mainly because Sy really likes him
RB Perine - another favourite. Perfect complement to RBs on roster.
RB Hunt- Guy who doesn't fumble what's not to like.

LB Ryan Anderson
RB Dalvin Cook
DT Chris Wormley
CB Kevin King
OL Forrest Lamp / Cam Robinson / Dion Dawkins
EDGE Demarcus Walker / Jordan Willis
S Budda Baker
RB Alvin Kamara
OLB Tyus Bowser
OLB Zach Cunningham