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BBI Update: Evan Engram Selection With Quotes

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/28/2017 12:34 am
Press conferences with Jerry Reese, Ben McAdoo, and Evan Engram...
New York Giants 1st Round Pick: Tight End Evan Engram - ( New Window )
Just  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/28/2017 12:42 am : link
added Marc Ross.
You Rock Eric  
Odell Porzingis Jr. : 4/28/2017 1:27 am : link
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You Rock Eric  
Odell Porzingis Jr. : 4/28/2017 1:27 am : link
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that explains why Atlanta wanted him so badly  
George from PA : 4/28/2017 5:57 am : link
A local boy.....but I do hate when teams know who we are going for......
Interesting  
mfsd : 4/28/2017 6:02 am : link
sounds like we didn't really talk to him much before the draft, but did plenty of homework
does Dallas have a secondary?  
George from PA : 4/28/2017 6:57 am : link
The weapons the Giants have is very impressive.
Kid blocks  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 4/28/2017 7:29 am : link
a lot better than he is given credit for. Sometimes looks bad when he lowers his head, other wise he is a pretty good blocker in the pass sets.
Was JR salty  
Deej : 4/28/2017 7:56 am : link
or is that just the transcript?
RE: Was JR salty  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/28/2017 8:13 am : link
In comment 13447832 Deej said:
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or is that just the transcript?


He comes off worse in the transcript, but I felt the same way.

IMO, Reese has never particularly enjoyed talking to the media and the criticism he has received the last few years has made him less engaging.
RE: RE: Was JR salty  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 4/28/2017 8:16 am : link
In comment 13447870 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 13447832 Deej said:


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or is that just the transcript?



He comes off worse in the transcript, but I felt the same way.

IMO, Reese has never particularly enjoyed talking to the media and the criticism he has received the last few years has made him less engaging.


Agreed, I feel both him and McAdoo are both very uncomfortable listens.
Smoke screen  
5BowlsSoon : 4/28/2017 8:23 am : link
I don't believe Atl wanted him, but instead were hoping to create a run on TEs so they could draft their man. Clearly Atl needed defense much much more. You all saw the Super Bowl.
One more point  
5BowlsSoon : 4/28/2017 8:33 am : link
I thought the question asking him to compare Njoku with Engram was pretty fair. I wish he had answered as to why he favored Engram. If nothing else give us some coach speak instead of telling us we won't evaluate Njoku. Why not?
Classic  
AcidTest : 4/28/2017 8:57 am : link
Reese:

Q: Did you try and trade up for anybody?

A: I am not going to talk about – do you want to talk about our pick or not? We are not talking about who we tried to trade up for.
RE: One more point  
Klaatu : 4/28/2017 8:57 am : link
In comment 13447933 5BowlsSoon said:
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I thought the question asking him to compare Njoku with Engram was pretty fair. I wish he had answered as to why he favored Engram. If nothing else give us some coach speak instead of telling us we won't evaluate Njoku. Why not?


Because it's a bullshit "gotcha" question designed to cause controversy, not provide any useful information.
They can't tell us why they rated Engram slightly higher.  
5BowlsSoon : 4/28/2017 9:18 am : link
On what basis? I can't see why not.
It feels greasy to be asking about players they didn't draft  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/28/2017 9:22 am : link
Writers wanted the pick to be Howard or Njoku.
RE: It feels greasy to be asking about players they didn't draft  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/28/2017 9:23 am : link
In comment 13448063 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Writers wanted the pick to be Howard or Njoku.


There were quotes about the attributes they liked in Engram. How could it help for the GM or coach to compare him to players on other teams. That is for other people to do.
JR wanted Mahomes  
Carl in CT : 4/28/2017 9:53 am : link
Fact.
RE: JR wanted Mahomes  
Klaatu : 4/28/2017 9:56 am : link
In comment 13448172 Carl in CT said:
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Fact.


Prove it.
I had to stop reading that Reese interview  
EricJ : 4/28/2017 10:00 am : link
half way through. It is as if he does not want to give us any information. We already drafted the fucking guy. Why not tell us more about how you came to the decision, more about the guy. Why is it always like pulling teeth with Reese? It is not as if we are asking him to tip his hand before the selection was made.
Interesting he has already played catch with Eli  
Vanzetti : 4/28/2017 10:08 am : link
That really has to increase the confidence level
TTH  
bc4life : 4/28/2017 10:12 am : link
Prior to the draft, writers and the fans talk about the number one pick a lot. Not unreasonable to ask these questions because they know they are questions many people are curious about.
Despite  
Pete in MD : 4/28/2017 10:18 am : link
being similar in size to Jordan Reed, Engram is a lot faster. Reed only ran a 4.72 at the combine before he was drafted.

I hope this format well. I was comparing physical attributes  
Ira : 4/28/2017 10:26 am : link
of Engram with the 8th pick, Christian McCaffrey

Engram McCaffrey
ht 6-3 - 5-11
wt 234 - 202
arm 33.5 - 30
40 4.42 - 4.48
press 19 - 10
vertical 36.0 - 37.5
3 cone 6.92 - 6.57
20 shuttle 4.23 - 4.22

Engram's bigger, stroner and a little faster. McCaffrey's a little quicker.
stronger not stroner  
Ira : 4/28/2017 10:28 am : link
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RE: does Dallas have a secondary?  
montanagiant : 4/28/2017 10:36 am : link
In comment 13447752 George from PA said:
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The weapons the Giants have is very impressive.

This was why I did not get the Taco pick by them. They are a team devoid of one starting CB let alone 2-3
montana  
bc4life : 4/28/2017 10:38 am : link
on their board he was the bpa.
we were easy to defend last year.  
area junc : 4/28/2017 10:38 am : link
that's over.
...  
ColHowPepper : 4/28/2017 11:21 am : link
the criticism has been justified and has led to some awkward, uncomfortable, even hostile exchanges, notably Ranaan, which makes the Engram exchanges all the more notable
RE: RE: One more point  
djm : 4/28/2017 11:46 am : link
In comment 13447999 Klaatu said:
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In comment 13447933 5BowlsSoon said:


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I thought the question asking him to compare Njoku with Engram was pretty fair. I wish he had answered as to why he favored Engram. If nothing else give us some coach speak instead of telling us we won't evaluate Njoku. Why not?



Because it's a bullshit "gotcha" question designed to cause controversy, not provide any useful information.


Exactly. Do we really need to go over why athletes and pro execs don't want to give the media anything to chew on? The media turns shit into a circus. Don't feed the trolls.
I'd put more stock into  
OlyWABigBlue : 4/28/2017 11:47 am : link
what Reese says after the draft rather than what he says after but one card of the hand is before the entire hand played out.

Anything he says can and will be used against him, not only by the local media, but by the other organizations competing with the Jints for players in the draft.

He is right in limiting info to Engram only at this point in time.
RE: I had to stop reading that Reese interview  
djm : 4/28/2017 11:48 am : link
In comment 13448198 EricJ said:
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half way through. It is as if he does not want to give us any information. We already drafted the fucking guy. Why not tell us more about how you came to the decision, more about the guy. Why is it always like pulling teeth with Reese? It is not as if we are asking him to tip his hand before the selection was made.


Reese liked Engram more than Njoku. Does he really need to spell it out for you? He took him!

"We think Engram is tougher than Njoku"--that comment would go over like a fart in church and you know it.
RE: RE: does Dallas have a secondary?  
djm : 4/28/2017 11:54 am : link
In comment 13448301 montanagiant said:
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In comment 13447752 George from PA said:


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The weapons the Giants have is very impressive.


This was why I did not get the Taco pick by them. They are a team devoid of one starting CB let alone 2-3


Their DL sucks too. I was hoping Dallas took a corner.
As I posted earlier in the season  
mattlawson : 4/28/2017 1:09 pm : link
I really didn't pay attention to any mock drafts, I'm not familiar with ol miss that I can relate the film of our new tight end to game situations.

But I'll say this, compared to the other highlights of the other TEs this kid looks like a real offense completing weapon for us. He has great hands, the lift when he jumps is like a top-flight wide receiver, he's fast, he's elusive – I love the way he fucking moves compared to the other tight ends who are basically straight ahead within their shoulders runners ...

Could be a VERY difficult offense to deal with he next couple of years.
RE: Kid blocks  
LauderdaleMatty : 4/28/2017 1:28 pm : link
In comment 13447781 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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a lot better than he is given credit for. Sometimes looks bad when he lowers his head, other wise he is a pretty good blocker in the pass sets.


He will get bigger as he matures and blocking is a lot about effort and heart. He will be fine.

I wanted Robinson or Lamp but this kid is going to light up defenses for years. He doesn't have to be Bavaro. Just willing to do he job
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