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NFT: Lavar Ball costs his son major endorsements

DanMetroMan : 4/28/2017 10:52 am
An endorsement deal with Nike, Under Armour or Adidas is not in the cards for Lonzo Ball.

Ball's father LaVar confirmed that the three shoe and apparel companies informed him that they were not interested in doing a deal with his son. Sources with the three companies told ESPN.com that they indeed were moving on.

Never in the history of modern day shoe endorsements have the big companies all stepped away from a potential top pick nearly two months before the NBA draft. But the proposition that LaVar, who has been representing Lonzo on the deal, was offering also has no precedence.

In his meetings with the three, LaVar insisted that the company license his upstart Big Baller Brand from him. He also showed the companies a shoe prototype that he hoped would be Lonzo's first shoe.

"We've said from the beginning, we aren't looking for an endorsement deal," LaVar told ESPN. "We're looking for co-branding, a true partner. But they're not ready for that because they're not used to that model. But hey, the taxi industry wasn't ready for Uber, either."
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That guy...  
Chris in Philly : 4/28/2017 10:54 am : link
is one of the biggest douchebags on the planet...
Time to tell Dad  
bigblue1124 : 4/28/2017 10:57 am : link
STFU or hit the streets
The guy is a cartoon character.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/28/2017 11:02 am : link
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Problem is the father  
nygiants16 : 4/28/2017 11:05 am : link
wanta these shoe companies to pony up for all 3 sons when the other 2 may not be even good college players...

Makes sense for him  
Deej : 4/28/2017 11:05 am : link
he owns/manages a shoe brand or nothing. Makes less sense for his kids.

From the article:

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Last week, Nike consultant George Raveling, at SportsBusinessJournal's World Congress of Sports called LaVar "the worst thing to happen to basketball in the last hundred years."


I think there is a material chance that Ball falls 1-3 picks because of his dad. His father is a walking circus atmosphere -- is that good for an NBA franchise?
At this point  
Vin R : 4/28/2017 11:06 am : link
I would tell my father to back the fuck off
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arcarsenal : 4/28/2017 11:06 am : link
I feel really bad for Lonzo.
Even though I am a UCLA fan  
Stan in LA : 4/28/2017 11:06 am : link
This guy is a total embarrassment and the fact we have to deal with him for 2 more sons is chilling.
RE: Makes sense for him  
nygiants16 : 4/28/2017 11:07 am : link
In comment 13448387 Deej said:
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he owns/manages a shoe brand or nothing. Makes less sense for his kids.

From the article:



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Last week, Nike consultant George Raveling, at SportsBusinessJournal's World Congress of Sports called LaVar "the worst thing to happen to basketball in the last hundred years."



I think there is a material chance that Ball falls 1-3 picks because of his dad. His father is a walking circus atmosphere -- is that good for an NBA franchise?


i have said this before i want nothing to do with him on the knicks..

father is a walming circus, last thing the knicks need
If I'm an NBA franchise with a top 5 pick  
Vin R : 4/28/2017 11:07 am : link
I'm not drafting Ball
Oh man  
Giantology : 4/28/2017 11:08 am : link
The Knicks are the perfect franchise for Ball. Keep the circus going.
RE: Time to tell Dad  
Chris in Philly : 4/28/2017 11:09 am : link
In comment 13448351 bigblue1124 said:
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STFU or hit the streets


It is long past time for that...
It is terribly sad  
Ash_3 : 4/28/2017 11:09 am : link
when a father's self-involvement ends up hurting his children. His son is a wonderful talent who aside from some bravado doesn't seem anywhere nearly as delusional as his father. His father has obviously done a ton to help his son get where he is, but part of being a good parent involves knowing when to step back.
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Ash_3 : 4/28/2017 11:10 am : link
In comment 13448393 arcarsenal said:
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I feel really bad for Lonzo.


Hah hadn't seen this - and that's my feeling too. Hard to tell your dad to back off when you're 19 and he's supported you your entire life.
Lavar Ball  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/28/2017 11:13 am : link
is a total tool.
At the end if the day  
CaLLaHaN : 4/28/2017 11:16 am : link
If this Kid can play all those guys will be coming back wanting to sign this kid. It's all on him who cares what his dad is saying. He isn't hurting anybody. Just very proud and over confident in his kids.
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arcarsenal : 4/28/2017 11:18 am : link
In comment 13448410 Ash_3 said:
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In comment 13448393 arcarsenal said:


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I feel really bad for Lonzo.



Hah hadn't seen this - and that's my feeling too. Hard to tell your dad to back off when you're 19 and he's supported you your entire life.


Yep. Its a tough spot for the kid. He's only 19 - he doesn't know any better. I think LaVar probably helped drive him and push him to get to where he is. And all of the over the top bravado and the ludicrous hot takes certainly got the nation talking about Lonzo, which isn't the worst thing in and of itself, but I think LaVar is putting a lot of undue pressure on Lonzo and just needs to let him be himself and make his own choices.

The unfortunate part is that a kid his age often simply doesn't see the other side. You grow up with a father like LaVar and you just sort of can't see that he's obstructive. I think Lonzo will figure it out sooner than later. But it's a hard spot for him to be in. You can tell that a lot of the things LaVar does/says make him a bit uncomfortable but it seems like the type of situation where he doesn't want to say it or simply doesn't know how.

This is a story that has been written many times. Some fathers try to live vicariously through their sons because their sons have talents that they never had. It is bad parenting and becomes very detrimental to the kid.

Hopefully for Lonzo's sake, he'll recognize it sooner than later and tell LaVar that he needs to back off.
RE: At the end if the day  
nygiants16 : 4/28/2017 11:19 am : link
In comment 13448428 CaLLaHaN said:
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If this Kid can play all those guys will be coming back wanting to sign this kid. It's all on him who cares what his dad is saying. He isn't hurting anybody. Just very proud and over confident in his kids.


problem is teams are not going to want to have to deal with a players father rippijg coaches and other players on the tram every single loss...

plus he will not let his son sign a shoe deal unless all 3 sons get a shoe deal or their brand...
I can see Lavar causing an Oakley type scene  
Vin R : 4/28/2017 11:20 am : link
at an NBA game
This is the same guy  
nygiants16 : 4/28/2017 11:21 am : link
that ripped ucla becauae they has to many white guys, no mention of how his son played like dog shit..

his son didnt help himself by announcing he was going pro 5 minutes after they were eliminated
This guy sounds so fucking stupid  
Motley Two : 4/28/2017 11:27 am : link
I'm imaging this prototype shoe they've already designed like something he put together with Elmer's glue, Popsicle sticks, and elbow macaroni.

"I've already designed the shoe!"
If this will cause him to fall in the draft great  
giantsfan44ab : 4/28/2017 11:35 am : link
would kill for the Knicks to get top 5 in that scenario.
RE: This guy sounds so fucking stupid  
Greg from LI : 4/28/2017 11:39 am : link
In comment 13448467 Motley Two said:
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I'm imaging this prototype shoe they've already designed like something he put together with Elmer's glue, Popsicle sticks, and elbow macaroni.

"I've already designed the shoe!"


For some reason, this is the image that springs to mind:



I have a lot of sympathy for Lonzo, too. It's easy for a stranger to say he should just tell his dad to get lost....but that's his father. They seem close, and his dad certainly was extremely involved in his life to this point. It will be very painful for Lonzo to separate himself from his father.
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26.2 : 4/28/2017 11:40 am : link
I'm sure this has happened in the past, but more low key, but I can't remember a blue chipper's father being this detrimental to a kid. If he falls in the draft and can't get a shoe contract, both because of his father, that's a sad state of affairs.
RE: RE: This guy sounds so fucking stupid  
26.2 : 4/28/2017 11:42 am : link
In comment 13448513 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13448467 Motley Two said:


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I'm imaging this prototype shoe they've already designed like something he put together with Elmer's glue, Popsicle sticks, and elbow macaroni.

"I've already designed the shoe!"



For some reason, this is the image that springs to mind:



I have a lot of sympathy for Lonzo, too. It's easy for a stranger to say he should just tell his dad to get lost....but that's his father. They seem close, and his dad certainly was extremely involved in his life to this point. It will be very painful for Lonzo to separate himself from his father.


LOL. If I recall, that car had "racket peanut steering"
big question teams will have  
nygiants16 : 4/28/2017 11:43 am : link
is lonzo going to listen to the coahces or will he listen to his father who is saying do something else?
Sole Collector.com  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2017 11:44 am : link
With the biggest sportswear imprints turning down a Lonzo Ball deal, his father says he's reaching out to Chinese brands like Peak and Li-Ning. He also claims he'll shop a deal to...Facebook.

LaVar Ball had already gone so far as to design a prototype for Lonzo's first sneaker, ESPN reports. What's more, he says he's been working on the shoe since the day his children were born.
RE: RE: This guy sounds so fucking stupid  
Motley Two : 4/28/2017 11:45 am : link
In comment 13448513 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13448467 Motley Two said:


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I'm imaging this prototype shoe they've already designed like something he put together with Elmer's glue, Popsicle sticks, and elbow macaroni.

"I've already designed the shoe!"



For some reason, this is the image that springs to mind:



I have a lot of sympathy for Lonzo, too. It's easy for a stranger to say he should just tell his dad to get lost....but that's his father. They seem close, and his dad certainly was extremely involved in his life to this point. It will be very painful for Lonzo to separate himself from his father.



Perfect!
I think the father has also said  
Steve in South Jersey : 4/28/2017 11:46 am : link
Lonzo will only play for the Lakers.
I  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2017 11:51 am : link
was told flat out by someone who is very well tied in that the Lakers would take Fultz over Ball despite all of the talk of them being obsessed with Ball (not saying they don't like Ball).
RE: I  
Steve in South Jersey : 4/28/2017 11:54 am : link
In comment 13448550 DanMetroMan said:
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was told flat out by someone who is very well tied in that the Lakers would take Fultz over Ball despite all of the talk of them being obsessed with Ball (not saying they don't like Ball).


Lakers have a 15.6% chance of pick first.
RE: I  
giantsfan44ab : 4/28/2017 11:55 am : link
In comment 13448550 DanMetroMan said:
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was told flat out by someone who is very well tied in that the Lakers would take Fultz over Ball despite all of the talk of them being obsessed with Ball (not saying they don't like Ball).


I don't think that has anything to do with his dad. It's really hard to consider anyone over Fultz.
RE: RE: I  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2017 11:58 am : link
In comment 13448562 giantsfan44ab said:
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In comment 13448550 DanMetroMan said:


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was told flat out by someone who is very well tied in that the Lakers would take Fultz over Ball despite all of the talk of them being obsessed with Ball (not saying they don't like Ball).



I don't think that has anything to do with his dad. It's really hard to consider anyone over Fultz.


I didn't mean to imply it was related to his dad. I just was commenting on the Laker/Ball stuff and how he said he'd rather go to the Lakers than go #1 overall. As I've noted before I'm close with a well known NBA writers daughter and he's pretty friendly with Magic and Magic (like most of the world) has Fultz #1 overall player in the draft.
RE: RE: I  
Deej : 4/28/2017 11:58 am : link
In comment 13448562 giantsfan44ab said:
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In comment 13448550 DanMetroMan said:


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was told flat out by someone who is very well tied in that the Lakers would take Fultz over Ball despite all of the talk of them being obsessed with Ball (not saying they don't like Ball).



I don't think that has anything to do with his dad. It's really hard to consider anyone over Fultz.


I agree. Fultz is that clear #1.
RE: RE: At the end if the day  
est1986 : 4/28/2017 12:01 pm : link
In comment 13448443 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 13448428 CaLLaHaN said:


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If this Kid can play all those guys will be coming back wanting to sign this kid. It's all on him who cares what his dad is saying. He isn't hurting anybody. Just very proud and over confident in his kids.



problem is teams are not going to want to have to deal with a players father rippijg coaches and other players on the tram every single loss...

plus he will not let his son sign a shoe deal unless all 3 sons get a shoe deal or their brand...


If the kid can play, and i think he will be really good, he will be fine.
I  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2017 12:03 pm : link
still find it hard to believe Ball doesn't go in the top 3 picks. I mean it's conceivable guys like Fox, Smith and Frenchy are so impressive in workouts that a team or 2 falls for them over Ball (he's likely polarizing even without his dad) but I'd have a hard time passing on him top 3.
dad's a tool  
Csonka : 4/28/2017 12:06 pm : link
But the kid is pretty awesome. And I like his personality too. Sharp kid. I hope he falls to the Knicks because of his dad, but doubt he'll get that far.
Sounds like Dad  
Cenotaph : 4/28/2017 12:10 pm : link
is making some demands they don't want to meet - probably wants support for the clothing brand and for him to be front & center for everything (plus deals for the other Balls). Guy is a clown, but somehow thinks he's smarter (and a better athlete) than everyone, because he kid is good at B-Ball. He is a caricature of the insane parent pushing the kid, except he seems intent on destroying any good chances the kid has...
He's a Joe Jackson wannabe  
David in LA : 4/28/2017 12:10 pm : link
Fuck this guy
has there ever been a bigger discrepancy  
santacruzom : 4/28/2017 1:34 pm : link
between what a guy thinks he is, and what he actually is?
RE: RE: This guy sounds so fucking stupid  
santacruzom : 4/28/2017 1:38 pm : link
In comment 13448513 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 13448467 Motley Two said:


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I'm imaging this prototype shoe they've already designed like something he put together with Elmer's glue, Popsicle sticks, and elbow macaroni.

"I've already designed the shoe!"



For some reason, this is the image that springs to mind:




Check this out:

Lavar walking into Sketchers offices  
Vin R : 4/28/2017 3:00 pm : link


lollllll
RE: I think the father has also said  
MotownGIANTS : 4/28/2017 3:52 pm : link
In comment 13448533 Steve in South Jersey said:
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Lonzo will only play for the Lakers.


He way early on but has stepped back from the comment since ... the son never said anything like that just the dad
.  
Danny Kanell : 4/28/2017 4:05 pm : link
Looking fresh in them Big Ballers!  
Motley Two : 4/28/2017 4:37 pm : link
lol
I love that Brand is actually in the title  
widmerseyebrow : 4/28/2017 4:58 pm : link
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Lavar Ball is an idiot  
LCtheINTMachine : 4/28/2017 5:14 pm : link
Just the worst of the worst in sports. Bragging all the time and talking about how great he is and always being in the news. What he has to understand is that always pushing yourself out there and talking about how successful you are is not what we like as the face of America. We are all about being down to earth.

Meanwhile Shaq has a kid going to Arizona and you don't see him Shaq-tin a Fool.
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