Carl Banks on WFAN

2nd and 3rd rounders when the Giants "do work" in those rounds?

Engram willing participant in run game but don't NEED him to block.

as possibilities tonight. Mentions Cunningham.

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Impressed with Engram's work in Senior Bowl.

Body of work/competition at Ole Miss and SEC.

Says he's an option, talking about need for balance. 29th in the run won't cut it.

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his point about OL is a good one

I thought so as well, and really important for Giants fanbase to think about, especially when it comes to Flowers.

pardon my typo.

that Carl was not at all into us picking one of these OT in the 1st rd. It was clear he didn't feel the value was there compared to other positions.

but he sees the Giants going with a running back and LB? Granted, it's mostly about the best players available, but that's out in left field. I would think unless the options are don't present themselves, the trenches would be ideal.

(I certainly do) but the Giants O has improved tremendously on paper.

*Marshall replacing Cruz

*Ellison replacing Donnell

*Engram replacing Tye

*Jennings carries going to a 2nd year Perkins

*Vereen back

*Flowers 23 years old, playing a better LT

*Richburg hurt in preseason last year, Pugh banged up throughout the year. Those 2 back healthy is a big organic upgrade, with Flowers maturity.

*And even McAdoo having a year under his belt with his system and program in place.

I think the O could take a similar swing the D did last year. Inept to dominant.

Paul Schwartz was lamenting the OL and how they need to pick one and Banks shut him down. Carl made it clear that none of the available OL prospects graded out as first round guys. The Giants and Reese were correct not to reach. He also talked about OL draftees these days needing 2 to 3 years to transition to the NFL because of limited practice schedules, guys coming out early and the differences between the college and NFL offenses. Most of the top OL prospects are still on the board and there is a reason for that. They are good players, but they are not NFL ready and Engram offers way more value. I will be thrilled if the Giants can grab a Lamp, Dawkins or Moton in Round 2 because now they would represent value.

In comment 13448527 GiantJake said:

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Paul Schwartz was lamenting the OL and how they need to pick one and Banks shut him down. Carl made it clear that none of the available OL prospects graded out as first round guys. The Giants and Reese were correct not to reach. He also talked about OL draftees these days needing 2 to 3 years to transition to the NFL because of limited practice schedules, guys coming out early and the differences between the college and NFL offenses. Most of the top OL prospects are still on the board and there is a reason for that. They are good players, but they are not NFL ready and Engram offers way more value. I will be thrilled if the Giants can grab a Lamp, Dawkins or Moton in Round 2 because now they would represent value.

Agree 100%. carl was strong and spot on. I was disappointed in Diehl there. Carl was basically begging him to join the debate and he was sitting there quiet as a church mouse with nothing to add when this should have been his area of expertise.

Be back.

In comment 13448507 area junc said:

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(I certainly do) but the Giants O has improved tremendously on paper. *Flowers 23 years old, playing a better LT

From your mouth to God's ears.

Engram pick and see him as the answer for the offense. HC was a TE coach and sees this skill set fitting in nicely. Engram is big and athletic enough to help in the blocking scheme supporting Flowers, who cannot be overpowered, but beat by quicker edge rushers. Engram can match up there very well. Guy is football smart and can separate for Eli as a safety valve much like Witten did for Romo.

In comment 13448629 Carl in CT said:

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Be back.

Why?

In comment 13448527 GiantJake said:

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Paul Schwartz was lamenting the OL and how they need to pick one and Banks shut him down. Carl made it clear that none of the available OL prospects graded out as first round guys. The Giants and Reese were correct not to reach. He also talked about OL draftees these days needing 2 to 3 years to transition to the NFL because of limited practice schedules, guys coming out early and the differences between the college and NFL offenses. Most of the top OL prospects are still on the board and there is a reason for that. They are good players, but they are not NFL ready and Engram offers way more value. I will be thrilled if the Giants can grab a Lamp, Dawkins or Moton in Round 2 because now they would represent value.

I like Moton in the 2nd as well

He's to the offense what Markus Kuhn was to the defense ... overachiever who's had his best day and now needs to be moved on.

OL need two to three years to develop because many of them rarely played in a three point stance as part of a spread offense.

for NOT taking an Oline in the first. I really thought they'd cave in and reach. I do think they should grab 1-2 of these guys later though.

In comment 13449153 Spider56 said:

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He's to the offense what Markus Kuhn was to the defense ... overachiever who's had his best day and now needs to be moved on.

The compared to Kuhn is ridiculous. Kuan was completely useless, where Tye was at least a serviceable player for 2 years. He's not really a starter, but he wasn't terrible. Kuhn was.

on paper, but worry about the loss of Hankins on defense. We were top ten there especially against the run. It all begins there because our secondary is solid. Maybe in the draft ? Snacks cannot do it all in the middle without help.