Kurtenbach: "Engram over Njoku = preposterous"

Sy says he can block, ill trust him.

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preposterous.

as well

I liked him better when he played for the NY Rangers

its feeding the trolls.

they need to make outlandish statements to get traffic

I've never heard of him but Prisco re-tweeted this so I looked him up


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A guy who was a consensus first round talent is a D- pick at #23? Sounds a little harsh.

I never heard of him before. Does he have credentials?

In comment 13449151 ECham said:

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its feeding the trolls. they need to make outlandish statements to get traffic

I highly doubt it's that. It's a list full of all draft picks. The guy probably just disliked our pick - that's fine, who cares, it's his opinion.

From the eyeball test, I see what he means about blocking, by if scouts like Sy and Dave Te say otherwise, I'm more inclined to believe them.

like the day before? seems like they had something on him that they really didn't like. plus, to the extent they're comparable and thought engram was a better fit, so be it. i'm not going to complain about splitting hairs.

In comment 13449148 Big Blue '56 said:

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I liked him better when he played for the NY Rangers

Now that's funny!!

But I think you can question Engram over Njoku certainly, even if you like the pick.

Sy had a higher grade on Njoku and I think (might be wrong) said in real time his pick would have been Njoku.

But the career comparison has now been established.

so what does that say about him?

He's undersized as well. We Have Ellison as a blocker. He's better than either.

Dieter Kurtenbach?

In comment 13449159 Samiam said:

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I never heard of him before. Does he have credentials?

"Dieter Kurtenbach is a senior writer with Fox Sports analyzing the amazing and roasting the absurd in the world of sports. He came to Fox Sports via the South Florida Sun Sentinel and KNBR-San Francisco. A native Chicagoan, Kurtenbach is a graduate of the Missouri School of Journalism, and is an avid Liverpool FC fan. He lives in Los Angeles and is awaiting The Weakerthans'€™ inevitable reunion tour."

This guy still wants to be the Center of attention ;-).

excelled as a blocker against LBs and DBs.

He was not drafted to block DEs...he will rarely be asked to do so.

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In comment 13449185 Rflairr said:

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Double Yawn

Ndjoku caught 64 in two years. Saying Engram is only marginally better as a receiver is "preposterous".

This isn't a knock on him. He's only and still learning. So maybe he becomes a HOF TE But crap like this stupid. And it shows the writer to be a more interested being outlandish than giving any type of intelligent analysis

"Kurtenbach is a graduate of the Missouri School of Journalism, and is an avid Liverpool FC fan."

Yeah, I'm all set.

I'll trust Sy56

Watched a football game since 1997.

In comment 13449204 Victor in CT said:

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I'll trust Sy56

Yes..I was playing with the name..😎

Yawn...

In comment 13449143 UConn4523 said:

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Sy says he can block, ill trust him.

I've seen Engram block pretty well in his game tapes. He's OK, not great, but OK and more than willing.

except this time we picked first.....

The Giants controlled the pick.....it will be interesting to watch the career of Engram vs Njoku.....

posting negative views. It's like If you're a Trump fan why watch CNN?

Engrams is a willing, adequate blocker and most of all tries to finish his blocks and does not give up frequently. Watch the Texas A and M tape.

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What Sy said; Engram is a good and aggressive blocker given his physique and talent. You're not going to use him to attempt to uproot DT's.

The Giants are always very confident in their grades, and after a very detailed look/see at Njoku, they decided they like Engram better. Wouldn't surprise me if there are issues with Njoku that concern them. Immaturity?

It was as if my dad were here! "See Greg, back then the only tough guy the Rangers had was Orland Kurtenbach...."

You've lost Middle America.

Dieter! Dieter!

I really would like to know how these football draft experts go about doing their jobs. I would guess that someone in the team front office, if not Reese himself, watched every game Engram played thus year and maybe all his time at Miss. I'll bet somebody talked to his coaches and you have Wonderluc & physical tests at the Combine. I'm sure Kurtenvach watched the Senior Bowl and maybe a bowl game on tv and some YouTube videos

Catching

Blocking

In comment 13449249 Greg from LI said:

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It was as if my dad were here! "See Greg, back then the only tough guy the Rangers had was Orland Kurtenbach...."

Hehe..I think it's the first time I have seen that name since The Ranger F played..

In comment 13449252 Samiam said:

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I really would like to know how these football draft experts go about doing their jobs. I would guess that someone in the team front office, if not Reese himself, watched every game Engram played thus year and maybe all his time at Miss. I'll bet somebody talked to his coaches and you have Wonderluc & physical tests at the Combine. I'm sure Kurtenvach watched the Senior Bowl and maybe a bowl game on tv and some YouTube videos

i don't mean to judge but look at a picture of the kid? Does he look like he knows anything about football?

Engram has over Njoku are that he holds onto the ball and is already a solid route runner.

Bucky Brooks made a solid point that they don't really have time to wait on a developing somebody a bit more raw.

The only thing that is important to me is that Engram is a great TE for the NYG. I get it, comparing the two is natural, but its fodder for the unimportant. Both becoming great in not a mutually exclusive set and by all accounts both are good kids.

That's good enough for me.

Hopefully he can stay on the field, unlike Jordan Reed.

Dieter Kurtenbach = F

Liked Howard slightly better than Engram. He can be special with Eli and that cast

In comment 13449263 mphbullet36 said:

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In comment 13449252 Samiam said: Quote: I really would like to know how these football draft experts go about doing their jobs. I would guess that someone in the team front office, if not Reese himself, watched every game Engram played thus year and maybe all his time at Miss. I'll bet somebody talked to his coaches and you have Wonderluc & physical tests at the Combine. I'm sure Kurtenvach watched the Senior Bowl and maybe a bowl game on tv and some YouTube videos i don't mean to judge but look at a picture of the kid? Does he look like he knows anything about football?

No, he looks like he spends a lot of time in his mom's basement playing video games.

He's a nobody.

is a hack.

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Jacksonville Jaguars: Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU Grade: C+ Fournette is a two-down back (an exceptional one, but still) who only fits into a few NFL offenses. Jacksonville is one of them. That said, they missed a good trade-down opportunity that could have improved their team in more than one way.

How on earth does he know that Jacksonville missed a "good trade-down opportunity"? How does he know Jacksonville received offers, or that they didn't try to make a trade? He's talking out of his ass. He then calls the #5 pick a reach but doesn't say they missed a trade opportunity.

The Chiefs get a D for trading up to get their man at QB but the Bears get an A- for trading up to get their man at QB.

And the piece de resistance

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Indianapolis Colts: Malik Hooker, FS, Ohio State Grade: A The Colts could have taken any first-round-graded player except a quarterback and this would have been an A. Hooker is a first-round graded player who isn't a quarterback.

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