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Giants tried to trade up for for QB Patrick Mahomes and were "very disappointed" they weren't able to get it done, per @AnitaMarks.
Agreed. Next year's crop is much better, and every year teams panic over QBs. This artificially inflates the market for QBs. Who's going to be better - the 2nd/3rd highest consensus ranked QB this year, or the 4th/5th next year?
Chiefs gave up a #1 and a #3 to move up to get Mahomes. The Giants were four picks ahead of the Chiefs, so they wouldn't have paid any more, and probably a little less. So how much could they really have wanted him?
Giants could not keep a secret again this year.
They were interest in getting Mahomes in a minor trade up but were unwilling to pay the real price of the trade up.
Who saw Engram truly coming over Njoku? I disagree they couldn't keep a secret this year.
I always thought the "misinformation" angle was horse shit, esp after they telegraphed Conklin and Floyd last year, but this year, and last year with Apple being the "fallback", I'm not sure you can say that.
If they wanted an LB, Foster was there (though he may have a totally f'd up rotator cuff)
Giants could not keep a secret again this year.
They were interest in getting Mahomes in a minor trade up but were unwilling to pay the real price of the trade up.
Who saw Engram truly coming over Njoku? I disagree they couldn't keep a secret this year.
I always thought the "misinformation" angle was horse shit, esp after they telegraphed Conklin and Floyd last year, but this year, and last year with Apple being the "fallback", I'm not sure you can say that.
If they wanted an LB, Foster was there (though he may have a totally f'd up rotator cuff)
Kizer, Webb, or Dobbs more likely tonight? Or was Mahomes the one guy they considered worthy of building the future around?
Knowing how the Giants do things, they were just floored by Mahomes and felt he was 'The One'. I do wonder if they like Nathan Peterman at all but he's not nearly as exciting. Reminds of Kirk Cousins a bit.
You have no idea "how the Giants do things" or whether or not they were "floored" by Mahomes. Your act sucks and you're not privy to anything that the common Giants fan is not. Cut the fucking shit already.
RE: As a dude who still isn't sold on McAdoo (but would like to be)
and thinks a lot of Reese's luster has worn off, stories like this aren't helping.
Except there's nothing to this story. Anita Marks got worked/used and Schefter is just repeating her.
The Giants actually pulled off a somewhat successful smokescreen (at regarding trading up) for the first time possibly ever and they can't even get credit for it.
and thinks a lot of Reese's luster has worn off, stories like this aren't helping.
Except there's nothing to this story. Anita Marks got worked/used and Schefter is just repeating her.
The Giants actually pulled off a somewhat successful smokescreen (at regarding trading up) for the first time possibly ever and they can't even get credit for it.
Happy he got a job he was barely qualified for. If he was even a decent OC last year the team could have made a real run. Maybe this year they still can despite him again
That heband Reese wanted to mortgage the future for Mahomes really makes me dislike him more. Machines may become a star but he should be and Reese should more worried about fixing his pathetic offense which was a fucking joke then 2-3 years from now.
Happy he got a job he was barely qualified for. If he was even a decent OC last year the team could have made a real run. Maybe this year they still can despite him again
That heband Reese wanted to mortgage the future for Mahomes really makes me dislike him more. Machines may become a star but he should be and Reese should more worried about fixing his pathetic offense which was a fucking joke then 2-3 years from now.
This post reads like someone who is fucking drunk wrote it. What the hell are you talking about?
The defense came up small in the 2nd half @ Lambeau, we lost DRC, and Odell had a shitty game. None of those things had anything to do with McAdoo. He did a fine job in his first year and coached this team to its strengths. The fact of the matter is that Eli had a bad season, we had no run game for most of the year and the OL wasn't very good.
We know nothing about what McAdoo pushed or didn't push.
took shots at Eli's play after the season. I think they're more concerned than fans realize.
Eli needs to start taking shots at Reese and his teams inability to put together an OL. Its sucked for 5 years. Unlike Reese he's got too much class to throw people who also fuck up under the bus.
Yea they scored some points but in a year that saw them trailing nearly every week and forced to throw all over the place due to no talent on the defensive side of the ball, the offense was along for the ride. It didn't save coughlins job. It couldn't run the ball when needed. It didn't win. It was slightly above average and that was with everything breaking the right way.
One great playmaker. Average at best OL and then Pugh is done for 6 weeks. No RBs. No TEs. The offense was never as good as we believed and it showed last year. I also don't think it was as bad as popular opinion. It struggled but It played to the scoreboard. Your post is a mess.
Kizer, Webb, or Dobbs more likely tonight? Or was Mahomes the one guy they considered worthy of building the future around?
Knowing how the Giants do things, they were just floored by Mahomes and felt he was 'The One'. I do wonder if they like Nathan Peterman at all but he's not nearly as exciting. Reminds of Kirk Cousins a bit.
You have no idea "how the Giants do things" or whether or not they were "floored" by Mahomes. Your act sucks and you're not privy to anything that the common Giants fan is not. Cut the fucking shit already.
I'm not saying this as a joke, I think area junc might have a mental illness and this is part of the reality he operates within.
There's a distinct possibility that there's something wrong and feeling like he's got the goods on the Gmen based on his personal predilections about how he feels the Giants operate, and closeness to the Mara family in his mind, make him express it in a way that comes off as an insider.
Then again, there was the Anthony Davis thread.... but just some food for thought. The internet is a weird place and you never know who you're talking to, and sometimes, I think that when you come across someone who seems off the wall, if they aren't an obvious troll (or douchebag), there's a high chance they're in a situation as described above. And message boards are places that attract many people in these situations.
Sorry, didn't mean to preach. I've thought it for a while cause I've seen some of area junc's posts where it comes off as if he knows the Maras personally or something, and tried to put 2+2 together. But maybe I'm just a bleeding heart douchebag.
area junc, I don't mean that as an insult. In fact, ignore what I just said.
RE: RE: As a dude who still isn't sold on McAdoo (but would like to be)
and thinks a lot of Reese's luster has worn off, stories like this aren't helping.
Except there's nothing to this story. Anita Marks got worked/used and Schefter is just repeating her.
The Giants actually pulled off a somewhat successful smokescreen (at regarding trading up) for the first time possibly ever and they can't even get credit for it.
Kizer, Webb, or Dobbs more likely tonight? Or was Mahomes the one guy they considered worthy of building the future around?
Knowing how the Giants do things, they were just floored by Mahomes and felt he was 'The One'. I do wonder if they like Nathan Peterman at all but he's not nearly as exciting. Reminds of Kirk Cousins a bit.
You have no idea "how the Giants do things" or whether or not they were "floored" by Mahomes. Your act sucks and you're not privy to anything that the common Giants fan is not. Cut the fucking shit already.
I'm not saying this as a joke, I think area junc might have a mental illness and this is part of the reality he operates within.
There's a distinct possibility that there's something wrong and feeling like he's got the goods on the Gmen based on his personal predilections about how he feels the Giants operate, and closeness to the Mara family in his mind, make him express it in a way that comes off as an insider.
Then again, there was the Anthony Davis thread.... but just some food for thought. The internet is a weird place and you never know who you're talking to, and sometimes, I think that when you come across someone who seems off the wall, if they aren't an obvious troll (or douchebag), there's a high chance they're in a situation as described above. And message boards are places that attract many people in these situations.
Sorry, didn't mean to preach. I've thought it for a while cause I've seen some of area junc's posts where it comes off as if he knows the Maras personally or something, and tried to put 2+2 together. But maybe I'm just a bleeding heart douchebag.
area junc, I don't mean that as an insult. In fact, ignore what I just said.
Don't overthink it. It's just a lonely dude who wants to feel important on the internet and is completely full of shit.
based on other comments we've heard also. Why trade up, costing a kings ransom, to grab a QB when you have one who still should have a few years, is proven/durable, and the rest of the team is very solid with good weapons around him and an excellent D. Makes more sense to add a few pieces who can contribute now, and either pick a QB later to develop, or come back next year in what should be a stronger class.
Picking a QB high (rd 1-2 at least) sends a clear message to the fans that they are looking past Eli, and sacrificing a pick that could bring a contributor for a backup QB. Makes sense to plan for life after Eli, clearly he's on the back 9, but like OL this year, it doesn't make the most sense to try to move up and jump on a guy at maybe a weaker position, especially as there's supposed to be a deep middle to this draft.
took shots at Eli's play after the season. I think they're more concerned than fans realize.
Eli needs to start taking shots at Reese and his teams inability to put together an OL. Its sucked for 5 years. Unlike Reese he's got too much class to throw people who also fuck up under the bus.
Unless I'm missing something, what did Reese say outside of Eli being on the back 9 of his career? I'm sure you do realize how high the bust rate is with OL in the first round.
RE: Everyone (myself included) overrated the giants offense after 2015
Yea they scored some points but in a year that saw them trailing nearly every week and forced to throw all over the place due to no talent on the defensive side of the ball, the offense was along for the ride. It didn't save coughlins job. It couldn't run the ball when needed. It didn't win. It was slightly above average and that was with everything breaking the right way.
One great playmaker. Average at best OL and then Pugh is done for 6 weeks. No RBs. No TEs. The offense was never as good as we believed and it showed last year. I also don't think it was as bad as popular opinion. It struggled but It played to the scoreboard. Your post is a mess.
It's mind boggling that the FO has understood since at least 2013 (and probably 2012) that the O-line was the single biggest weakness on the team, and has been unable to fix it.
And it's not even like they didn't try... just not in any way other than the draft - they drafted Pugh (good but injured a lot, a "B" grade player when on the field, part of a winning team) Richburg (flashes of greatness, major regression - hopefully injury), and Flowers (as of now, MEGA bust when you consider Gurley was the next pick) -- but FFS, how do you go into a season with Newhouse starting? I'm glad DJ Fluker was signed cause at least it's an attempt to plug *some* hole through FA.
Remember, Shaun O'Hara and Kareem McKenzie were FA signings. The two need to work together. The line hasn't been "neglected" per se, but they whiffed on the high pick (Flowers... at least so far), took a low ceiling "tackle" who ended up as a guard (as people called -- though Pugh is valuable).... can't give them shit for Richburg if he returns to form, a high 2nd on a Center or Guard reminds me of Snee and was the right choice, but man, it's crazy they've had 4-5 years to fix this unit and can't get much closer to the objective.
On a personal note, my 2 best friends from HS are Giants fans (nothing more vile than NJ born Cowboys fans)... and for years, in high school leading up to the 07 and up to the '11 run, I told them "Gmen build their team from the lines out, awesome, consistent O-line that is greater than the sum of it's parts, all-star D-line". While the importance of the D-line has shifted more to the secondary as the NFL has changed, it pains me to watch Dallas accumulate a wealth of riches on their OL which is arguably the best in the NFL, hit a home run on a 4th rd draft pick QB, and get a top 10 RB at the top of the draft to run behind the line.
I hate it cause as Giants fans, we all know you win championships from the line out (or, in the case of the 3-4 80s teams, a pass rush out).
Anita Marks could have heard that the Giants tried to move up. But the Giants would never say why they were moving up, so Mahomes is pure speculation.
Plus every team investigates moving up and down, simply by virtue of the calls they receive.
So all she heard is the Giants contemplated moving their pick--which they do most years--and then added some speculation that they were moving to take Mahomes.
Last year, all the Conklin supporters were convinced he was the Giants real target and the Floyd supporters were convinced he was the real target.
Plus, if you have watched the way draft rooms work, there is generally no unanimity. So I'm sure there were voices who wanted Mahomes, just as I'm sure there voices for Conklin and Floyd.
So, basically her claim is meaningless, other than to tell us the Giants think highly of Mahomes as do most teams and people who follow football.
The cost to move down that far would be enormous. Giants aren't spending that kind of value. It was nice sitting at your campfire though...
You're assuming they were trying to trade down to #10 or earlier. We now know where he was picked, and what the cost was to get there.
Remember, that wasn't the situation last night. The Giants could have been hoping he'd fall past #14, and then they could make a deal with Colts at #15 or the Ravens at #16, since neither one needs a QB right now. That cost might have been within their "budget."
So not being "able to" move up and get Mahomes may have been a matter of Mahomes not falling far enough for them to trade up to get him, not a matter of them talking about trading for #10 or something.
Since KC traded up 17 spots for 1st, 3rd and next years 1st the Giants maybe could have gotten away with a 4th this year. They definitely would have had to give up next years first. I can't see Reese doing that when he needs to strengthen the offense especially for a development player. No way Mahomes is playing for the next 2 years.
Happy he got a job he was barely qualified for. If he was even a decent OC last year the team could have made a real run. Maybe this year they still can despite him again
That heband Reese wanted to mortgage the future for Mahomes really makes me dislike him more. Machines may become a star but he should be and Reese should more worried about fixing his pathetic offense which was a fucking joke then 2-3 years from now.
This post reads like someone who is fucking drunk wrote it. What the hell are you talking about?
The defense came up small in the 2nd half @ Lambeau, we lost DRC, and Odell had a shitty game. None of those things had anything to do with McAdoo. He did a fine job in his first year and coached this team to its strengths. The fact of the matter is that Eli had a bad season, we had no run game for most of the year and the OL wasn't very good.
I typed it on my phone Let me be clearer and more concise.
McAdoo is a clod. His offense sucked ass last year and cost us the GB game. His ioffense since he got here has been pray for OBJ to make plays.
It was a miracle they won 11. That he was pimping for Mahomes is a joke. Giants D was fucking GB up and fat ass sandwich board boy's O was kicking filed goals.
And drunk or not McAdoo didn't deserve the job as HC. Spags group carried the team. Period
Happy he got a job he was barely qualified for. If he was even a decent OC last year the team could have made a real run. Maybe this year they still can despite him again
That heband Reese wanted to mortgage the future for Mahomes really makes me dislike him more. Machines may become a star but he should be and Reese should more worried about fixing his pathetic offense which was a fucking joke then 2-3 years from now.
This post reads like someone who is fucking drunk wrote it. What the hell are you talking about?
The defense came up small in the 2nd half @ Lambeau, we lost DRC, and Odell had a shitty game. None of those things had anything to do with McAdoo. He did a fine job in his first year and coached this team to its strengths. The fact of the matter is that Eli had a bad season, we had no run game for most of the year and the OL wasn't very good.
I typed it on my phone Let me be clearer and more concise.
McAdoo is a clod. His offense sucked ass last year and cost us the GB game. His ioffense since he got here has been pray for OBJ to make plays.
It was a miracle they won 11. That he was pimping for Mahomes is a joke. Giants D was fucking GB up and fat ass sandwich board boy's O was kicking filed goals.
And drunk or not McAdoo didn't deserve the job as HC. Spags group carried the team. Period
Did we watch the same playoff game last year?
The defense gave up THIRTY EIGHT points. Including a killer hail mary right before the half.
When was McAdoo "pimping" for Mahomes? The report that we tried to trade up for him was false.
We were kicking FG's @ Lambeau because our WR's were dropping passes. You also ignore the fact that Eli simply wasn't very good last year. Not because of McAdoo.
who the heck is he? Never heard of him until March. If he was so GD good, I might have heard about him earlier than just before the draft. Be realistic, how many of you really knew who this guy was?
Sorry, I could give a shit if he can throw 80 yards. Lots of rocket arms out there.
Last weekend she was doing an interview with some draft guru on the radio. McCaffrey came up and the guru said it now looked like he'd go in the first half of the first round. She countered that she was hearing he'd probably go to the Pats. Cue the guru who says that's not likely since they don't pick until the third round. She quickly changed draft topics.
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Chiefs gave up a #1 and a #3 to move up to get Mahomes. The Giants were four picks ahead of the Chiefs, so they wouldn't have paid any more, and probably a little less. So how much could they really have wanted him?
They gave up their #1 and #3 this year, and their #1 next year.....couldn't see the Giants attempting anything like that if they are playing for now....sounds like BS to me....
Ernie made sure that Eli was obtained. Would that have happened with Reese if Ernie was not there or made it happen? If Mahomes was a legitimate solution for our future maybe they should have done more, especially if the wheels start falling off with Eli sooner.
And I'll be fine with it.
FYI: The #Giants did not try to trade up for QB Patrick Mahomes last night, per sources."
Why is it nauseating: Because Eli was the only friggen offensive player that showed face in Lambeau. He was ready to go beat Dallas again
On the bright side, it didn't happen and every offseason he gets doubted, he beats Tom Brady in Super Bowls and wins Super Bowl MVPs.
Bring it on.
FYI: The #Giants did not try to trade up for QB Patrick Mahomes last night, per sources.
OK Carry On.
Giants could not keep a secret again this year.
They were interest in getting Mahomes in a minor trade up but were unwilling to pay the real price of the trade up.
I always thought the "misinformation" angle was horse shit, esp after they telegraphed Conklin and Floyd last year, but this year, and last year with Apple being the "fallback", I'm not sure you can say that.
If they wanted an LB, Foster was there (though he may have a totally f'd up rotator cuff)
Giants could not keep a secret again this year.
They were interest in getting Mahomes in a minor trade up but were unwilling to pay the real price of the trade up.
I always thought the "misinformation" angle was horse shit, esp after they telegraphed Conklin and Floyd last year, but this year, and last year with Apple being the "fallback", I'm not sure you can say that.
If they wanted an LB, Foster was there (though he may have a totally f'd up rotator cuff)
OK Carry On.
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Kizer, Webb, or Dobbs more likely tonight? Or was Mahomes the one guy they considered worthy of building the future around?
Knowing how the Giants do things, they were just floored by Mahomes and felt he was 'The One'. I do wonder if they like Nathan Peterman at all but he's not nearly as exciting. Reminds of Kirk Cousins a bit.
You have no idea "how the Giants do things" or whether or not they were "floored" by Mahomes. Your act sucks and you're not privy to anything that the common Giants fan is not. Cut the fucking shit already.
Except there's nothing to this story. Anita Marks got worked/used and Schefter is just repeating her.
The Giants actually pulled off a somewhat successful smokescreen (at regarding trading up) for the first time possibly ever and they can't even get credit for it.
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and thinks a lot of Reese's luster has worn off, stories like this aren't helping.
Except there's nothing to this story. Anita Marks got worked/used and Schefter is just repeating her.
The Giants actually pulled off a somewhat successful smokescreen (at regarding trading up) for the first time possibly ever and they can't even get credit for it.
I'm glad it worked out like it did.
FYI: The #Giants did not try to trade up for QB Patrick Mahomes last night, per sources.
Lol.
That heband Reese wanted to mortgage the future for Mahomes really makes me dislike him more. Machines may become a star but he should be and Reese should more worried about fixing his pathetic offense which was a fucking joke then 2-3 years from now.
That heband Reese wanted to mortgage the future for Mahomes really makes me dislike him more. Machines may become a star but he should be and Reese should more worried about fixing his pathetic offense which was a fucking joke then 2-3 years from now.
This post reads like someone who is fucking drunk wrote it. What the hell are you talking about?
The defense came up small in the 2nd half @ Lambeau, we lost DRC, and Odell had a shitty game. None of those things had anything to do with McAdoo. He did a fine job in his first year and coached this team to its strengths. The fact of the matter is that Eli had a bad season, we had no run game for most of the year and the OL wasn't very good.
Eli needs to start taking shots at Reese and his teams inability to put together an OL. Its sucked for 5 years. Unlike Reese he's got too much class to throw people who also fuck up under the bus.
One great playmaker. Average at best OL and then Pugh is done for 6 weeks. No RBs. No TEs. The offense was never as good as we believed and it showed last year. I also don't think it was as bad as popular opinion. It struggled but It played to the scoreboard. Your post is a mess.
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Kizer, Webb, or Dobbs more likely tonight? Or was Mahomes the one guy they considered worthy of building the future around?
Knowing how the Giants do things, they were just floored by Mahomes and felt he was 'The One'. I do wonder if they like Nathan Peterman at all but he's not nearly as exciting. Reminds of Kirk Cousins a bit.
You have no idea "how the Giants do things" or whether or not they were "floored" by Mahomes. Your act sucks and you're not privy to anything that the common Giants fan is not. Cut the fucking shit already.
There's a distinct possibility that there's something wrong and feeling like he's got the goods on the Gmen based on his personal predilections about how he feels the Giants operate, and closeness to the Mara family in his mind, make him express it in a way that comes off as an insider.
Then again, there was the Anthony Davis thread.... but just some food for thought. The internet is a weird place and you never know who you're talking to, and sometimes, I think that when you come across someone who seems off the wall, if they aren't an obvious troll (or douchebag), there's a high chance they're in a situation as described above. And message boards are places that attract many people in these situations.
Sorry, didn't mean to preach. I've thought it for a while cause I've seen some of area junc's posts where it comes off as if he knows the Maras personally or something, and tried to put 2+2 together. But maybe I'm just a bleeding heart douchebag.
area junc, I don't mean that as an insult. In fact, ignore what I just said.
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and thinks a lot of Reese's luster has worn off, stories like this aren't helping.
Except there's nothing to this story. Anita Marks got worked/used and Schefter is just repeating her.
The Giants actually pulled off a somewhat successful smokescreen (at regarding trading up) for the first time possibly ever and they can't even get credit for it.
We have some time here.
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In comment 13449497 battttles said:
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Kizer, Webb, or Dobbs more likely tonight? Or was Mahomes the one guy they considered worthy of building the future around?
Knowing how the Giants do things, they were just floored by Mahomes and felt he was 'The One'. I do wonder if they like Nathan Peterman at all but he's not nearly as exciting. Reminds of Kirk Cousins a bit.
You have no idea "how the Giants do things" or whether or not they were "floored" by Mahomes. Your act sucks and you're not privy to anything that the common Giants fan is not. Cut the fucking shit already.
I'm not saying this as a joke, I think area junc might have a mental illness and this is part of the reality he operates within.
There's a distinct possibility that there's something wrong and feeling like he's got the goods on the Gmen based on his personal predilections about how he feels the Giants operate, and closeness to the Mara family in his mind, make him express it in a way that comes off as an insider.
Then again, there was the Anthony Davis thread.... but just some food for thought. The internet is a weird place and you never know who you're talking to, and sometimes, I think that when you come across someone who seems off the wall, if they aren't an obvious troll (or douchebag), there's a high chance they're in a situation as described above. And message boards are places that attract many people in these situations.
Sorry, didn't mean to preach. I've thought it for a while cause I've seen some of area junc's posts where it comes off as if he knows the Maras personally or something, and tried to put 2+2 together. But maybe I'm just a bleeding heart douchebag.
area junc, I don't mean that as an insult. In fact, ignore what I just said.
Don't overthink it. It's just a lonely dude who wants to feel important on the internet and is completely full of shit.
Picking a QB high (rd 1-2 at least) sends a clear message to the fans that they are looking past Eli, and sacrificing a pick that could bring a contributor for a backup QB. Makes sense to plan for life after Eli, clearly he's on the back 9, but like OL this year, it doesn't make the most sense to try to move up and jump on a guy at maybe a weaker position, especially as there's supposed to be a deep middle to this draft.
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took shots at Eli's play after the season. I think they're more concerned than fans realize.
Eli needs to start taking shots at Reese and his teams inability to put together an OL. Its sucked for 5 years. Unlike Reese he's got too much class to throw people who also fuck up under the bus.
Unless I'm missing something, what did Reese say outside of Eli being on the back 9 of his career? I'm sure you do realize how high the bust rate is with OL in the first round.
One great playmaker. Average at best OL and then Pugh is done for 6 weeks. No RBs. No TEs. The offense was never as good as we believed and it showed last year. I also don't think it was as bad as popular opinion. It struggled but It played to the scoreboard. Your post is a mess.
And it's not even like they didn't try... just not in any way other than the draft - they drafted Pugh (good but injured a lot, a "B" grade player when on the field, part of a winning team) Richburg (flashes of greatness, major regression - hopefully injury), and Flowers (as of now, MEGA bust when you consider Gurley was the next pick) -- but FFS, how do you go into a season with Newhouse starting? I'm glad DJ Fluker was signed cause at least it's an attempt to plug *some* hole through FA.
Remember, Shaun O'Hara and Kareem McKenzie were FA signings. The two need to work together. The line hasn't been "neglected" per se, but they whiffed on the high pick (Flowers... at least so far), took a low ceiling "tackle" who ended up as a guard (as people called -- though Pugh is valuable).... can't give them shit for Richburg if he returns to form, a high 2nd on a Center or Guard reminds me of Snee and was the right choice, but man, it's crazy they've had 4-5 years to fix this unit and can't get much closer to the objective.
On a personal note, my 2 best friends from HS are Giants fans (nothing more vile than NJ born Cowboys fans)... and for years, in high school leading up to the 07 and up to the '11 run, I told them "Gmen build their team from the lines out, awesome, consistent O-line that is greater than the sum of it's parts, all-star D-line". While the importance of the D-line has shifted more to the secondary as the NFL has changed, it pains me to watch Dallas accumulate a wealth of riches on their OL which is arguably the best in the NFL, hit a home run on a 4th rd draft pick QB, and get a top 10 RB at the top of the draft to run behind the line.
I hate it cause as Giants fans, we all know you win championships from the line out (or, in the case of the 3-4 80s teams, a pass rush out).
Plus every team investigates moving up and down, simply by virtue of the calls they receive.
So all she heard is the Giants contemplated moving their pick--which they do most years--and then added some speculation that they were moving to take Mahomes.
Last year, all the Conklin supporters were convinced he was the Giants real target and the Floyd supporters were convinced he was the real target.
Plus, if you have watched the way draft rooms work, there is generally no unanimity. So I'm sure there were voices who wanted Mahomes, just as I'm sure there voices for Conklin and Floyd.
So, basically her claim is meaningless, other than to tell us the Giants think highly of Mahomes as do most teams and people who follow football.
Remember, that wasn't the situation last night. The Giants could have been hoping he'd fall past #14, and then they could make a deal with Colts at #15 or the Ravens at #16, since neither one needs a QB right now. That cost might have been within their "budget."
So not being "able to" move up and get Mahomes may have been a matter of Mahomes not falling far enough for them to trade up to get him, not a matter of them talking about trading for #10 or something.
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Happy he got a job he was barely qualified for. If he was even a decent OC last year the team could have made a real run. Maybe this year they still can despite him again
That heband Reese wanted to mortgage the future for Mahomes really makes me dislike him more. Machines may become a star but he should be and Reese should more worried about fixing his pathetic offense which was a fucking joke then 2-3 years from now.
This post reads like someone who is fucking drunk wrote it. What the hell are you talking about?
The defense came up small in the 2nd half @ Lambeau, we lost DRC, and Odell had a shitty game. None of those things had anything to do with McAdoo. He did a fine job in his first year and coached this team to its strengths. The fact of the matter is that Eli had a bad season, we had no run game for most of the year and the OL wasn't very good.
I typed it on my phone Let me be clearer and more concise.
McAdoo is a clod. His offense sucked ass last year and cost us the GB game. His ioffense since he got here has been pray for OBJ to make plays.
It was a miracle they won 11. That he was pimping for Mahomes is a joke. Giants D was fucking GB up and fat ass sandwich board boy's O was kicking filed goals.
And drunk or not McAdoo didn't deserve the job as HC. Spags group carried the team. Period
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Happy he got a job he was barely qualified for. If he was even a decent OC last year the team could have made a real run. Maybe this year they still can despite him again
That heband Reese wanted to mortgage the future for Mahomes really makes me dislike him more. Machines may become a star but he should be and Reese should more worried about fixing his pathetic offense which was a fucking joke then 2-3 years from now.
This post reads like someone who is fucking drunk wrote it. What the hell are you talking about?
The defense came up small in the 2nd half @ Lambeau, we lost DRC, and Odell had a shitty game. None of those things had anything to do with McAdoo. He did a fine job in his first year and coached this team to its strengths. The fact of the matter is that Eli had a bad season, we had no run game for most of the year and the OL wasn't very good.
I typed it on my phone Let me be clearer and more concise.
McAdoo is a clod. His offense sucked ass last year and cost us the GB game. His ioffense since he got here has been pray for OBJ to make plays.
It was a miracle they won 11. That he was pimping for Mahomes is a joke. Giants D was fucking GB up and fat ass sandwich board boy's O was kicking filed goals.
And drunk or not McAdoo didn't deserve the job as HC. Spags group carried the team. Period
Did we watch the same playoff game last year?
The defense gave up THIRTY EIGHT points. Including a killer hail mary right before the half.
When was McAdoo "pimping" for Mahomes? The report that we tried to trade up for him was false.
We were kicking FG's @ Lambeau because our WR's were dropping passes. You also ignore the fact that Eli simply wasn't very good last year. Not because of McAdoo.
Your posts are ridiculous.
Sorry, I could give a shit if he can throw 80 yards. Lots of rocket arms out there.
Total smoke screen.
Sorry for the rant.
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Chiefs gave up a #1 and a #3 to move up to get Mahomes. The Giants were four picks ahead of the Chiefs, so they wouldn't have paid any more, and probably a little less. So how much could they really have wanted him?
They gave up their #1 and #3 this year, and their #1 next year.....couldn't see the Giants attempting anything like that if they are playing for now....sounds like BS to me....
Why, you mean to tell me that that "heband" Reese didn't want to mortgage the future for Mahomes or that Ben McAdoo wasn't "pimping" for him?
Blasphemy! False narratives are wayyyy more fun. I say we leave it up and keep criticizing the FO on incorrect into and faulty logic!
LMAO...