Deashon Hall. Texas AM. Garrett's teammate. Up and coming DE. Classic Giants 4-3 DE.
He is so over rated on this site. This guy never makes plays. Don't get the love at all.
Sy's write up:
8 – Daeshon Hall – 6’6/260 – Texas A& M: 78
Summary: Four year contributor that made a full time position move from outside linebacker to defensive end in 2015. Hall still has some rawness to his game but the tools and ability cannot be overlooked. He has some of the best natural talent and overall upside in the entire class. His strength needs to catch up to his weight gain but when it does, every other trait is ready to go. Hall has uncanny bend-ability and straight line explosion, making him a nightmare for any blocker. His versatility as an inside-outside rusher could really get a defensive coordinator excited. Enormous upside.
*I’ve been back and forth on Hall a few times. Whenever I would scout Garrett, I kept noting that the guy on the other side of the line was quite the tools-rich prospect himself. They looked like two NFL DEs playing against college kids. Upon further review, I noticed that Hall lacked a physical presence when engaged with blockers. He didn’t get much push and struggled to disengage from quality players. I really saw this at the Senior Bowl. Re-watching some of his game tapes I noticed some of the same things. His talent and upside are high, but I wish I saw some more physical play from him. This is a guy NYG will have a high grade on.
Upside Pro Comparison: Michael Johnson – CIN
And? He is over rated by Sy then. No offense to him he is right some and wrong some. Even he was like i am back and forth and the reason why is because he doesnt make any plays!
Upside. But the chances of him being the pick are small, and I still prefer Asiata, Rivers, or Webb.
I will put it this way.. i would draft Damonte again before Hall. He never shows up. Dont believe me go watch their games.
Difference of opinion. Saw Texas AM games. 3rd/4th is where Hall should go.
True... i am wrong all the time. Just hate players that dont make plays. If you can't make plays in college how can you in the NFL
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another thing to ignore your biggest need. I can believe he didn't go OL in round 2. JR just doesn't understand the value of a good o-line.
Yea, he's put a priority on grabbing a OL guy in high rounds but only when the need was so critical that we actually needed three upgrades on the line so we keep playing from behind as far as fixing the o-line. And at this rate it will never be fixed. It's already been shit for 4 years in a row!
We really need more than one upgrade on the line too.
Welcome to Jerry-ball.
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Can't believe he is still out there. Solid against the run and can rush the passer at 6-4,255 with a 4.57 40 time. Supposed to be a good kid and team leader. Very productive. Sy,why has he not been taken?
another thing to ignore your biggest need. I can believe he didn't go OL in round 2. JR just doesn't understand the value of a good o-line.
Yea, he's put a priority on grabbing a OL guy in high rounds but only when the need was so critical that we actually needed three upgrades on the line so we keep playing from behind as far as fixing the o-line. And at this rate it will never be fixed. It's already been shit for 4 years in a row!
We really need more than one upgrade on the line too.
Welcome to Jerry-ball.
I've been frustrated by Jerry ball for 4 years now. The thing that gets me is that the need is so obvious to anyone.
another thing to ignore your biggest need. I can believe he didn't go OL in round 2. JR just doesn't understand the value of a good o-line.
Yea, he's put a priority on grabbing a OL guy in high rounds but only when the need was so critical that we actually needed three upgrades on the line so we keep playing from behind as far as fixing the o-line. And at this rate it will never be fixed. It's already been shit for 4 years in a row!
We really need more than one upgrade on the line too.
Welcome to Jerry-ball.
I've been frustrated by Jerry ball for 4 years now. The thing that gets me is that the need is so obvious to anyone.
As Jerry sees it, the need is for Eli to get the ball out faster. Eli averages 2.38 seconds, now. Ben and Jerry want Eli to quit wasting so much time as the ball needs to be in the playmaker's hands and not some old, hang-dog looking, stand-in-the-pocket passer. If Eli can get his release to 1.5 seconds, Championship!
FS/CB Desmond King of Iowa
RB Samaje Perine of Oklahoma
RB Kareem Hunt of Toledo
RB Marlon Mack of South Florida
CB Fabian Moreau of UCLA (he's injured though) - wildcard. Don't know his recovery time.
Can't believe he is still out there. Solid against the run and can rush the passer at 6-4,255 with a 4.57 40 time. Supposed to be a good kid and team leader. Very productive. Sy,why has he not been taken?
He has some pedestrian tape...and showed a lack of power presence at Senior Bowl. Perhaps some teams question if he can add weight.
..RB James Conner? Tall for a RB, could be a power runner we lack
Rather grab Perrine. Kind is a monster and I think a bit better. Connor is such a great story hard not to root for him too. Rather grab Asiata though. Kicks Jerry to the bench and insurance if as many believe Pugh is too rich to re-sign
Why is he falling? He's productive, versatile and has amazing intangibles.
He is a little under sized for a 4-3 DT. His tape is also on the outside. Plus so many DBs going it is pushing people down and DT is loaded with a ton of talent left. Actually i don't go DT here. I go Cordrea or King. I want a DB
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Deashon Hall. Texas AM. Garrett's teammate. Up and coming DE. Classic Giants 4-3 DE.
He is so over rated on this site. This guy never makes plays. Don't get the love at all.
Sy's write up:
8 – Daeshon Hall – 6’6/260 – Texas A& M: 78
Summary: Four year contributor that made a full time position move from outside linebacker to defensive end in 2015. Hall still has some rawness to his game but the tools and ability cannot be overlooked. He has some of the best natural talent and overall upside in the entire class. His strength needs to catch up to his weight gain but when it does, every other trait is ready to go. Hall has uncanny bend-ability and straight line explosion, making him a nightmare for any blocker. His versatility as an inside-outside rusher could really get a defensive coordinator excited. Enormous upside.
*I’ve been back and forth on Hall a few times. Whenever I would scout Garrett, I kept noting that the guy on the other side of the line was quite the tools-rich prospect himself. They looked like two NFL DEs playing against college kids. Upon further review, I noticed that Hall lacked a physical presence when engaged with blockers. He didn’t get much push and struggled to disengage from quality players. I really saw this at the Senior Bowl. Re-watching some of his game tapes I noticed some of the same things. His talent and upside are high, but I wish I saw some more physical play from him. This is a guy NYG will have a high grade on.
Upside Pro Comparison: Michael Johnson – CIN
And? He is over rated by Sy then. No offense to him he is right some and wrong some. Even he was like i am back and forth and the reason why is because he doesnt make any plays!
Upside. But the chances of him being the pick are small, and I still prefer Asiata, Rivers, or Webb.
I will put it this way.. i would draft Damonte again before Hall. He never shows up. Dont believe me go watch their games.
Difference of opinion. Saw Texas AM games. 3rd/4th is where Hall should go.
True... i am wrong all the time. Just hate players that dont make plays. If you can't make plays in college how can you in the NFL
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for me? on a flight right now and being charged by the MB and all the live draft trackers are not good for this. fucking TAP Portugal!!
i say hold off on RB for now.
2 23 55 New York Giants Dalvin Tomlinson DT Alabama
2 24 56 Oakland Raiders Obi Melifonwu S UConn
2 25 57 Houston Texans Zach Cunningham LB Vanderbilt
2 26 58 Seattle Seahawks Ethan Pocic C LSU
2 27 59 Kansas City Chiefs Tanoh Kpassagnon DE Villanova
2 28 60 Dallas Cowboys Chidobe Awuzie CB Colorado
2 29 61 Green Bay Packers Josh Jones S NC State
2 30 62 Pittsburgh Steelers JuJu Smith-Schuster WR USC
2 31 63 Buffalo Bills Dion Dawkins OL Temple
2 32 64 Carolina Panthers Taylor Moton OT Western Michigan
3rd round
65: Cleveland Browns: Larry Ogunjobi, DL, Charlotte
66: San Francisco 49ers: Ahkello Witherspoon, CB, Colorado
67: New Orleans Saints: Alvin Kamara, RB, Tennessee
68: Jacksonville Jaguars: Dawuane Smoot, DE, Illinois
69: Los Angeles Rams: Connor Kupp, WR, Eastern Washington
thanks lukes! who is king that SY is referencing? thought king went 33?
8.85 MB left. spent 40 bucks on 40 mb so far lol
CB/FS Desmond King of Iowa
84 DT Chris Wormley – Michigan – 6’5/298
83 S Desmond King – 5’11/200- Iowa
80 CB Fabian Moreau – 6’0/206 – UCLA
80 DT Caleb Brantley – 6’3/307 – Florida
80 G/C Isaac Asiata – 6’3/335 – Utah
80 OT Conor McDermott – 6’8/307 – UCLA
80 RB Kareem Hunt – 5’11/216 – Toledo
80 WR ArDarius Stewart – 5’11/204 – Alabama
79 CB Jourdan Lewis – 5’10/186 – Michigan
79 G/C Dan Feeney – 6’4/305 – Indiana
79 S John Johnson – 6’0/202 – Boston College
79 WR Chad Hansen – 6’2/202 – California
78 DE Daeshon Hall – 6’6/260 – Texas A& M
78 DT Montravius Adams – 6’4/304 – Auburn
78 G/C Dorian Johnson – 6’5/300 – Pittsburgh
78 LB Samson Ebukam – 6’2/240 – Eastern Washington
78 OT Will Holden – 6’7/311 – Vanderbilt
78 RB Marlon Mack – 5’11/213 – South Florida
78 TE Jordan Leggett – 6’5/258 – Clemson
78 WR Dede Westbrook – 6’0/176 – Oklahoma
a lot of good players there -- Giants gonna get a good one in the third!
Yea, he's put a priority on grabbing a OL guy in high rounds but only when the need was so critical that we actually needed three upgrades on the line so we keep playing from behind as far as fixing the o-line. And at this rate it will never be fixed. It's already been shit for 4 years in a row!
We really need more than one upgrade on the line too.
Welcome to Jerry-ball.
No injury or off-field issues for Willis.
Mayock mocked him to Pittsburgh in the 1st round! I don't get it!
Asiata
Willis
I also love the DB's (Desmond King, Cordrea Tankersley, Fabian Moreau)
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Lawson has some durability issues. Not sure about Willis.
No injury or off-field issues for Willis.
Mayock mocked him to Pittsburgh in the 1st round! I don't get it!
He is a little light for a 4-3 DE but he is so much better than Charles Harris. He should have been taken and hey why not Giants... great kid
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another thing to ignore your biggest need. I can believe he didn't go OL in round 2. JR just doesn't understand the value of a good o-line.
Yea, he's put a priority on grabbing a OL guy in high rounds but only when the need was so critical that we actually needed three upgrades on the line so we keep playing from behind as far as fixing the o-line. And at this rate it will never be fixed. It's already been shit for 4 years in a row!
We really need more than one upgrade on the line too.
Welcome to Jerry-ball.
I've been frustrated by Jerry ball for 4 years now. The thing that gets me is that the need is so obvious to anyone.
Damn... nice pick there.
I think Lamp can play LT. His short arms are being marked to much. They are longer than Pugh and he was better than Pugh at tackle in college.
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another thing to ignore your biggest need. I can believe he didn't go OL in round 2. JR just doesn't understand the value of a good o-line.
Yea, he's put a priority on grabbing a OL guy in high rounds but only when the need was so critical that we actually needed three upgrades on the line so we keep playing from behind as far as fixing the o-line. And at this rate it will never be fixed. It's already been shit for 4 years in a row!
We really need more than one upgrade on the line too.
Welcome to Jerry-ball.
I've been frustrated by Jerry ball for 4 years now. The thing that gets me is that the need is so obvious to anyone.
As Jerry sees it, the need is for Eli to get the ball out faster. Eli averages 2.38 seconds, now. Ben and Jerry want Eli to quit wasting so much time as the ball needs to be in the playmaker's hands and not some old, hang-dog looking, stand-in-the-pocket passer. If Eli can get his release to 1.5 seconds, Championship!
But don't worry.
Jerry will take real good care of this unit.
But don't worry.
Jerry will take real good care of this unit.
Asiata is still there. Otherwise I really like DB's left
FS/CB Desmond King of Iowa
RB Samaje Perine of Oklahoma
RB Kareem Hunt of Toledo
RB Marlon Mack of South Florida
CB Fabian Moreau of UCLA (he's injured though) - wildcard. Don't know his recovery time.
Antonio Garcia
Dorian Johnson
Jourdan Lewis
Tim Williams
Desmond King
Duke Riley
Fabian Moreau
Derek Rivers
Samaje Perine
Isaac Asiata
Why is he falling? He's productive, versatile and has amazing intangibles.
He has some pedestrian tape...and showed a lack of power presence at Senior Bowl. Perhaps some teams question if he can add weight.
Wormley played DE in a 4-3 last year. He can move around and i think we need 2 DTs in this draft.
But don't worry.
Jerry will take real good care of this unit.
Not sure if serious....
I think he goes in Round 5. That's my guess
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Get on that and this DL is STACKED
Why is he falling? He's productive, versatile and has amazing intangibles.
Never know. Could be a medical red flag that we don't know about.
If he is there...it's not even a thought.
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..RB James Conner? Tall for a RB, could be a power runner we lack
I think he goes in Round 5. That's my guess
I thought he was ranked as a 3rd or 4th
Rather grab Perrine. Kind is a monster and I think a bit better. Connor is such a great story hard not to root for him too. Rather grab Asiata though. Kicks Jerry to the bench and insurance if as many believe Pugh is too rich to re-sign
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Get on that and this DL is STACKED
Why is he falling? He's productive, versatile and has amazing intangibles.
He is a little under sized for a 4-3 DT. His tape is also on the outside. Plus so many DBs going it is pushing people down and DT is loaded with a ton of talent left. Actually i don't go DT here. I go Cordrea or King. I want a DB
That is a better fit as a 3-4 DE... good player