we got our guy!!! I know we spoke a little about how we liked this kid
Wasn't me. I never really spoke about Webb. Wasn't a fan of any of the QBs in this draft. But next year's crop will be insane. I could see 6 or 7 QBs go in the first round next year.
My first reaction is that I don't like it - but if the Giants feel strongly about the kid, who knows. Obviously they whiffed on Nassib. Lets hope this isn't a repeat.
In all seriousness this guy could turn out to be the best QB in this draft. Big, smart, and a canon for an arm. Give him 2 years behind Eli and we could have a Rogers type situation where he comes right in.
SOURCES TELL US "He obviously is going to need coaching after being in those offenses at Texas Tech and Cal. I think he has enough between the ears to unlearn some of his bad habits and start to get things right. I see another Nick Foles if you give him time to develop." -- AFC area scout
NFL COMPARISON Brock Osweiler
BOTTOM LINE System quarterback with more than 65 percent of his attempts coming inside of 10 yards. Webb has enough raw talent to be considered a developmental prospect, but his decision-making and accuracy issues beyond 10 yards is a big red flag that might be tough to overcome in the NFL.
about the chances of any developmental QB under the 2011 CBA. The teams just don't have the practice time to really coach up a backup.
The guys who are worth having are the guys who are good enough to start right away. Otherwise, the best you hope for is the Cousins-Kaepernick-Tyrod level of play. Would anybody here be happy with Eli's successor capping out at that level? Better to tank a year post-Eli and get a blue-chipper.
I like grabbing a guy here. In fact, I think they should grab another in the midrounds next year. Having two developmental guys in the pipeline increases our chances of hitting.
I know people get tired of the Pats rhetoric, but that's they've been doing.
I don't understand your point. Smith has a nothing contract, which is fitting since he probably doesn't have an NFL future. They're just giving him a chance.
Someone tell me why this isn't going to be a wasted pick like Nassib all over again.
I may not love the pick, but big difference between Webb and Nassib. Webb throws the ball around with ease, big arm, where as Nassib was always a bit more of a system qb. He'll play in this league.
That Eli isn't going to be here for 4 or 5 more years.
Most likely it's two more and out.
Yeah, Eli will only be here 2 or 3 more years. But you replace him with a good QB if you want to keep competing. I really doubt Davis Webb is going to step in when Eli retires or god forbid gets hurt and does a great job at QB. But I guess we'll see. They should have just drafted one next year where the QB crop is supposed to be even better.
Had one of the worst offensive line last year and in the first 3 rounds, nothing?? Did we need "NEED" a QB in the 3rd round this year, no. I was fine with Engram, Tomlinson I like a lot, the Webb pick is a head scratcher.
I think there were guys on the board who could have been contributors for the next few years. Third round for a player who doesn't seem to have learned anything about technique in 4 years of college play seems high unless he's got size/speed/arm strength that just forces you to take him.
we got our guy!!! I know we spoke a little about how we liked this kid
Wasn't me. I never really spoke about Webb. Wasn't a fan of any of the QBs in this draft. But next year's crop will be insane. I could see 6 or 7 QBs go in the first round next year.
This pick illustrates why we are not going to be like the
Bills, Browns, Redskins etc trying so desperately to
find a starting qb of quality.
Eli is the starter for 2-3 more years and we all love him
but I bet even he wants to see the franchise succeed
after he retires.
I love this pick. He could be like Nassib or he could be our
version of Luck/Rodgers.
So if a legit first round grade QB falls to us in the 22-30 range next year do we pass for this kid? And if we don't, what is the point of picking him now?
we got our guy!!! I know we spoke a little about how we liked this kid
Wasn't me. I never really spoke about Webb. Wasn't a fan of any of the QBs in this draft. But next year's crop will be insane. I could see 6 or 7 QBs go in the first round next year.
mmmm was it terps? I thought it was you!
Nope, wasn't me. Thanks for thinking of me though! Haha
this is a definite thread archive moment. Whether we're right or wrong, it'll be funny to revisit years from now. Doesn't seem like there's much of an in between crowd for this kid. Seems like a love it or hate it pick.
That Eli isn't going to be here for 4 or 5 more years.
People need to accept that Eli will be hitting the turf or doing his 2 step drop quite a bit in 2017 with a shit offensive line.
Most likely it's two more and out.
People keep thinking that Eli is going to play at a high level for the next three years... One can hope..
a fan of Webb in the first or second, but fine here. Stunned he lasted so long. Giants probably were as well.
Saw a lot of Cal games. Has the height and the arm strength required to survive the howling winds of the Meadowlands. Better arm than Goff. Tremendous work ethic, just like Tomlinson. No injury history.
60-65% of his passes were within 10 yards of the LOS, but that is true for most QBs from spread offenses. Some sideline "rail," throws, but few to the second and third levels. Generally accurate, but passes can sail. Limited experience with three, five, and seven step drops. Little mobility, and needs more lower body strength.
Webb was talked about as a guy who could creep into the 1st round and some have thought he's better than Goff. Nothing wrong with grooming a potential successor for ~3 years give or take one either way. Even if the best case scenario is a Jimmy G type ala the Patriots. I like the pick
Wasn't me. I never really spoke about Webb. Wasn't a fan of any of the QBs in this draft. But next year's crop will be insane. I could see 6 or 7 QBs go in the first round next year.
My first reaction is that I don't like it - but if the Giants feel strongly about the kid, who knows. Obviously they whiffed on Nassib. Lets hope this isn't a repeat.
This was a gift.
Before the guy plays a game huh? lol
NFL COMPARISON Brock Osweiler
BOTTOM LINE System quarterback with more than 65 percent of his attempts coming inside of 10 yards. Webb has enough raw talent to be considered a developmental prospect, but his decision-making and accuracy issues beyond 10 yards is a big red flag that might be tough to overcome in the NFL.
Yeah but Reese has shown he's clueless when it comes to the OL. 9 years running.
The guys who are worth having are the guys who are good enough to start right away. Otherwise, the best you hope for is the Cousins-Kaepernick-Tyrod level of play. Would anybody here be happy with Eli's successor capping out at that level? Better to tank a year post-Eli and get a blue-chipper.
I know people get tired of the Pats rhetoric, but that's they've been doing.
I don't understand your point. Smith has a nothing contract, which is fitting since he probably doesn't have an NFL future. They're just giving him a chance.
I have been saying it for weeks. The kid has "it".
Perfect pick I would have taken him in the 2nd easy and maybe even the 1st.
Way better than any qb not named Mitch in this year's draft.
Absolute larceny by the Giants. Remember this night.
Jerry is going NO where
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Shit. No. First Bad Pick. Eli isnt going anywhere for at least 3 years.
neither did brett favre when GB took a Cal QB
Aaron Rodgers comparisons with a third round pick of this caliber.
I'm fine with the pick, but how poisonous QBs are to people's minds never ceases to amaze me.
I may not love the pick, but big difference between Webb and Nassib. Webb throws the ball around with ease, big arm, where as Nassib was always a bit more of a system qb. He'll play in this league.
... and then he didn't because teams traded up for other ones In a weak qb class. yay?
Most likely it's two more and out.
Yeah, Eli will only be here 2 or 3 more years. But you replace him with a good QB if you want to keep competing. I really doubt Davis Webb is going to step in when Eli retires or god forbid gets hurt and does a great job at QB. But I guess we'll see. They should have just drafted one next year where the QB crop is supposed to be even better.
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we got our guy!!! I know we spoke a little about how we liked this kid
Wasn't me. I never really spoke about Webb. Wasn't a fan of any of the QBs in this draft. But next year's crop will be insane. I could see 6 or 7 QBs go in the first round next year.
mmmm was it terps? I thought it was you!
This pick illustrates why we are not going to be like the
Bills, Browns, Redskins etc trying so desperately to
find a starting qb of quality.
Eli is the starter for 2-3 more years and we all love him
but I bet even he wants to see the franchise succeed
after he retires.
I love this pick. He could be like Nassib or he could be our
version of Luck/Rodgers.
Terrible decision
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we got our guy!!! I know we spoke a little about how we liked this kid
Wasn't me. I never really spoke about Webb. Wasn't a fan of any of the QBs in this draft. But next year's crop will be insane. I could see 6 or 7 QBs go in the first round next year.
mmmm was it terps? I thought it was you!
Nope, wasn't me. Thanks for thinking of me though! Haha
You're doing it wrong if you're relying on third round picks to provide immediate help, imo.
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That Eli isn't going to be here for 4 or 5 more years.
People need to accept that Eli will be hitting the turf or doing his 2 step drop quite a bit in 2017 with a shit offensive line.
Most likely it's two more and out.
People keep thinking that Eli is going to play at a high level for the next three years... One can hope..
Jerry Reese says Davis Webb has the best arm in the draft and makes it clear that he will have chance to be successor to Eli Manning.
Saw a lot of Cal games. Has the height and the arm strength required to survive the howling winds of the Meadowlands. Better arm than Goff. Tremendous work ethic, just like Tomlinson. No injury history.
60-65% of his passes were within 10 yards of the LOS, but that is true for most QBs from spread offenses. Some sideline "rail," throws, but few to the second and third levels. Generally accurate, but passes can sail. Limited experience with three, five, and seven step drops. Little mobility, and needs more lower body strength.
Good pick. Worth the risk.
Webb vs. Oregon - ( New Window )
To be fair, the same thing happened with Ryan Nassib. He was predicted by some to go in the first round.
Maybe Aaron Rodgers 2.0.
Comes out of CAL and sits on the bench for 3-4 years behind HOF starter.
half full ... bro.
; )
Jerry Reese says Davis Webb has "best arm in the draft." He has all the tools, high ceiling + will be caddie to Eli Manning for few seasons.