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New York Giants 3rd Round Pick: QB Davis Webb

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/28/2017 10:40 pm
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SO FAR  
Sy'56 : 4/28/2017 10:53 pm : link
NYG Draft

1 - Evan Engram - TE/Ole Miss
2 - Dalvin Tomlinson - DT/Alabama
3 - Davis Webb - QB/California

My Draft

1 - David Njoku - TE/Miami
2 - Dion Dawkins - OL/Temple
3 - Montravious Adams - DT/Auburn
My bad sorry Dave it was Dobbs that Dave TE mentioned  
Blue21 : 4/28/2017 10:53 pm : link
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RE: People bitching about  
WillVAB : 4/28/2017 10:53 pm : link
In comment 13451001 Rflairr said:
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getting a QB that some thought would go in the bottom of the first round.


People said the same shit about Nassib.

I'd be willing to bet he doesn't play a meaningful down his entire rookie contract.

Now is the time to look for quality secondary depth, RB depth, or a flier on an interior lineman. The talent was there.
I Just Don't Understand  
Bernie : 4/28/2017 10:53 pm : link
Using a 3rd round pick on a player that you do not expect to play for 3 years. Asiata, Lawson, King, Perine all seemed like better choices at this point.
BOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!  
Red Dog : 4/28/2017 10:53 pm : link
They need almost anything more than they needed a QB of the future right now.

WORST DRAFT IN YEARS.  
FatHeadTommy : 4/28/2017 10:54 pm : link
Left Njoku on the board. He's gonna be a monster.

Took a DT who can't get to a quarterback and who won't finish the first season except on IR. May get hurt in camp.

Took a quarterback we don't need when we need OL help desperately.

Passed on better talent everywhere and with every pick.

My grade so far D-
Prediction: This draft hurts us for years and finally seals Jerry fate.
SHELDON RICHARDSON ON A ONE YEAR RENTAL.  
est1986 : 4/28/2017 10:54 pm : link
>>> THIS PICK.
Eli has Never been hurt but that's luck  
Jesse B : 4/28/2017 10:55 pm : link
This team NEEDS a QB that can hold down the fort if need be because the roster is so talented you don't want to fall out of playoff contention if Eli misses two or three games.

He hasn't missed any game ever but it's not reasonable to expect he will never miss a game.

Backup QB is absolutely a need
I have seen him so much live and he is good...  
Amtoft : 4/28/2017 10:55 pm : link
This is a great kid... he works harder than anyone. In at 5am and there last at Cal. Just a great kid who wants to be good. He studies and works all the time. He reminds me of Eli in a lot of ways. I have Cal season tickets and know a lot of inside people at Cal. This guy is top notch. Now he needs work. He locks onto WRs, doesn't progress thru reads and needs help there. I guarantee you tho this guy will give it everything he has on and off the field to be good. Oh and has a rifle on his arm. Check out his ball velocity it is off 2nd to only Mahomes altho in other events his was higher. Love this!!
would you let the next Joe Montana pass thru 3rd rd  
32_Razor : 4/28/2017 10:55 pm : link
This pick will go down as a legendary pick.
RE: SO FAR  
WillVAB : 4/28/2017 10:55 pm : link
In comment 13451078 Sy'56 said:
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NYG Draft

1 - Evan Engram - TE/Ole Miss
2 - Dalvin Tomlinson - DT/Alabama
3 - Davis Webb - QB/California

My Draft

1 - David Njoku - TE/Miami
2 - Dion Dawkins - OL/Temple
3 - Montravious Adams - DT/Auburn


I like your draft.

Good job on the podcast btw.
Jerry reach  
Mr. Nickels : 4/28/2017 10:55 pm : link
is a moron.

Nassib part 2. At least we didn't trade up but it's a deep draft (and a bad QB one).

He's a backup QB.

He MIGHT end up starting the year after Eli retires but it will just transition to when we pick high in the draft for a real franchise qb.

We will pick a kicker tomorrow.
Both Walter and Charlie  
Koldegaard : 4/28/2017 10:55 pm : link
from Walterfootball had Davis going early in the 2nd round.
in their post 1st round mocks.
RE: WORST DRAFT IN YEARS.  
JPinstripes : 4/28/2017 10:56 pm : link
In comment 13451087 FatHeadTommy said:
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Left Njoku on the board. He's gonna be a monster.

Took a DT who can't get to a quarterback and who won't finish the first season except on IR. May get hurt in camp.

Took a quarterback we don't need when we need OL help desperately.

Passed on better talent everywhere and with every pick.

My grade so far D-
Prediction: This draft hurts us for years and finally seals Jerry fate.


Shut up you idiot.
RE: SO FAR  
Jon in NYC : 4/28/2017 10:56 pm : link
In comment 13451078 Sy'56 said:
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NYG Draft

1 - Evan Engram - TE/Ole Miss
2 - Dalvin Tomlinson - DT/Alabama
3 - Davis Webb - QB/California

My Draft

1 - David Njoku - TE/Miami
2 - Dion Dawkins - OL/Temple
3 - Montravious Adams - DT/Auburn


Prefer the Giants' tbh
RE: You guys are nuts  
Del Shofner : 4/28/2017 10:56 pm : link
In comment 13451041 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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This guy is going to be the next great NYG QB.

I have been saying it for weeks. The kid has "it".

Perfect pick I would have taken him in the 2nd easy and maybe even the 1st.

Way better than any qb not named Mitch in this year's draft.

Absolute larceny by the Giants. Remember this night.


dude - hope you're right!
I don't see any OL guy here we should have picked  
PatersonPlank : 4/28/2017 10:56 pm : link
In fact I bet we can get guys like Asiata and McDermott in the 4th Rd too. Webb IS A STEAL HERE. Take a shot in the 3rd on a guy who could be the next starter rather than a forced OL pick would be the next Brewer.

Great pick. Archive this thread for the future.
Webb made some nice throws in the Senior Bowl game  
jeff57 : 4/28/2017 10:56 pm : link
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TTH  
OlyWABigBlue : 4/28/2017 10:57 pm : link
we're on the same page...just trying to be circumspect. I do like the pick for the longer term outlook.
RE: Honestly surprised by the hate in here  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/28/2017 10:57 pm : link
In comment 13451071 27 said:
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Webb was talked about as a guy who could creep into the 1st round and some have thought he's better than Goff. Nothing wrong with grooming a potential successor for ~3 years give or take one either way. Even if the best case scenario is a Jimmy G type ala the Patriots. I like the pick


You can't be honestly surprised. Look at some of the comments. Some people don't even think long-term thinking plays into the draft.
Odds are the kid busts  
AcesUp : 4/28/2017 10:57 pm : link
Most QBs do, especially in the 3rd round. But you HAVE to sink resources into trying to find the right developmental guy (and I say guys). Otherwise, Eli retires and we're one of those teams trading away 2 drafts to move up for one.

You guys watch the Jets, life after Eli scares the shit out of me and should you too. Now is the time to start looking.
RE: Webb made some nice throws in the Senior Bowl game  
Amtoft : 4/28/2017 10:57 pm : link
In comment 13451114 jeff57 said:
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MVP... his pro day was great. I was there and he was throwing in the rain and making plays! He is a leader
RE: Just watched Jessie Armstead  
short lease : 4/28/2017 10:58 pm : link
In comment 13451049 antdog24 said:
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Rub his superbowl rings in the face of the Eagles fans booing him and calling the Giants world champions as he announces the Webb pick. Awesome!!


I loved it. lol
what the fuck, reese?  
japanhead : 4/28/2017 10:58 pm : link
lorenzen (UDFA, 2004), woodson (6th, 2008) bohmar (5th, 2009), nassib (4th, 2013), webb (3rd, 2017). our GM loves wasting picks on QBs who suck and are never long for the team. and he is now burning day one picks to continue with this? i'll admit i don't know the first thing about davis, but with reese's track record how could you not doubt it? the only position he's fucked up as consistently as QB is LB. i like the first two picks in this draft well enough but this drafting shitty QBs every 4 years with increasingly high picks has got to stop. for the love of god. lorenzen was the best of the bunch.
RE: SHELDON RICHARDSON ON A ONE YEAR RENTAL.  
BleedBlue : 4/28/2017 10:58 pm : link
In comment 13451093 est1986 said:
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>>> THIS PICK.



dude he doesnt get along with marshall, he has a large contract and is a one year rental...in no way is that a better decision
RE: I'm usually a big Reese supporter during the draft  
nygiants16 : 4/28/2017 10:59 pm : link
In comment 13450944 Josh in the City said:
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But this draft has been an asbolute nightmare for me. Glad some of you like it but I just don't see it.


umm last year you ripped every single pick and it ended up being a great draft
I mean maybe it's like the Garoppolo pick?  
Anakim : 4/28/2017 10:59 pm : link
Or maybe they drafted him as a chip to trade down the road.



All I know (or at least hope) is that the Giants won't pass next year on Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Josh Rosen, Lamar Jackson, Mason Rudolph or Luke Falk for Davis Webb. Then again, those kids could fall ala Connor Cook and Christian Hackenberg.
Interesting huh?  
Carson53 : 4/28/2017 10:59 pm : link
I threw his name out there a long time ago, when he was considered possibly a 5th at that point?
Those were the possible projections then,
I said I wouldn't mind. Obviously he had moved up since.
I don't have a problem here, if they like him enough.
This guy is the next Joe Montana  
32_Razor : 4/28/2017 10:59 pm : link
He is that good. He picks apart defenses like a shark ripping apart a seal.


I don't love it  
Cenotaph : 4/28/2017 10:59 pm : link
Would have maybe went for an OL or RB...but clearly a weak OL class and maybe the RB the wanted went. It makes sense - we need a guy to groom to replace Eli, a 3rd rounder isn't a huge gamble but still nets a solid talent, and has has the size and arm but needs some learning time. I get it and hope they can get him ready to go in 3 years or so....if not, we'll see another low pick once Eli is getting ready to hand em up
NFL.com draft profile compares him to  
Mr. Bungle : 4/28/2017 11:00 pm : link
Nick Foles and Brock Osweiler.

LOL
Webb  
AcidTest : 4/28/2017 11:00 pm : link
is much better than Nassib, and I was one of the few people who defended the Nassib pick. I thought Nassib could have gone in the second round, and the Steelers were interested in him, and had to settle for Landry Jones.

Webb is much bigger, and has a better arm, although Nassib is more mobile.

Eli is reaching the end. Whether that's in two or three years, his window is closing.
For those that say they should wait until next  
Dave on the UWS : 4/28/2017 11:00 pm : link
year to get Eli's successor they are guaranteed to get one because ...? If they have a conviction about this guy then I'm fine with it. Looking forward to seeing him in camp.
Webb  
Archer : 4/28/2017 11:00 pm : link
I Was not in favor of the Giants drafting a QB.

However, Webb was a leading performer in almost all the categories at the combine.

In addition Webb posted a 59 MPH velocity at the combine only second to Mahome @ 60 MPH.

He has plenty of arm strength.

Webb is also bigger than you might think he is almost 6'-6".

His hands are 9 1/4" but he has long arms.

He is a project.
RE: would you let the next Joe Montana pass thru 3rd rd  
Devon : 4/28/2017 11:00 pm : link
In comment 13451098 32_Razor said:
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This pick will go down as a legendary pick.


Aaron Rodgers now Joe Montana.

Here's a more realistic take:

Ryan Smithþ
@RSmithNFL


Davis Webb is the Christian Hackenberg of 2017. Big arm but struggles with touch and accuracy at all levels of the field. Not correctable.
this is backward ...  
Spider56 : 4/28/2017 11:00 pm : link
Eli should be picking reese's successor, not the other way around.
Webb had a faster 3 cone than Watson  
jeff57 : 4/28/2017 11:01 pm : link
And a faster 40 than Mahomes and Kiser. He!s not a statue.
A few things here  
Matt in SGS : 4/28/2017 11:01 pm : link
- Anything to potentially get Geno Smith off the roster is a positive

- This is closer to the traditional way teams used to handle young QBs, letting them caddie for a few years and learn before putting them on the field rather than learning on the job

- This is different than the Nassib pick. Nassib was never meant to play. He was a cheaper backup than paying relatively big bucks for the David Carr's of the world to sit behind Eli. Webb is a true potential heir to Eli because all indications are Eli is done once his deal is up.

- Next years draft has even more talented QBs in it. I wouldn't put it past the Giants to look there again next year if they aren't "feeling it" with Webb after a year of work behind Eli. Remember, you need a starter and a backup. This is similar to the Dave Brown/ Kent Graham set up years ago when Simms was on his last legs (hopefully this works out better)

- The Giants have needs at OL, but this draft blows for OL right now. So the value wasn't there at the 3rd round. They need a RB, but they can get a big back tomorrow, or just sign Blount.

- This screams a value pick, at an area of need somewhat immediately (upgrade the backup) with the potential to groom Eli's replacement. I think the Giants are hoping for a good transition like Favre to Rodgers when the time comes, and less like Simms to Brown.
RE: Not  
Canton : 4/28/2017 11:01 pm : link
In comment 13451070 AcidTest said:
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a fan of Webb in the first or second, but fine here. Stunned he lasted so long. Giants probably were as well.

Saw a lot of Cal games. Has the height and the arm strength required to survive the howling winds of the Meadowlands. Better arm than Goff. Tremendous work ethic, just like Tomlinson. No injury history.

60-65% of his passes were within 10 yards of the LOS, but that is true for most QBs from spread offenses. Some sideline "rail," throws, but few to the second and third levels. Generally accurate, but passes can sail. Limited experience with three, five, and seven step drops. Little mobility, and needs more lower body strength.

Good pick. Worth the risk.
Webb vs. Oregon - ( New Window )


someone commented "Eli's successor" on that video and it was from 3 months ago LOL.
RE: RE: would you let the next Joe Montana pass thru 3rd rd  
Amtoft : 4/28/2017 11:01 pm : link
In comment 13451139 Devon said:
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In comment 13451098 32_Razor said:


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This pick will go down as a legendary pick.



Aaron Rodgers now Joe Montana.

Here's a more realistic take:

Ryan Smithþ
@RSmithNFL


Davis Webb is the Christian Hackenberg of 2017. Big arm but struggles with touch and accuracy at all levels of the field. Not correctable.


Oh hell no! Not even close! I hated hackenburg. Couldn't hit the side of a Barn. Webb is way better!!
RE: RE: would you let the next Joe Montana pass thru 3rd rd  
Anakim : 4/28/2017 11:02 pm : link
In comment 13451139 Devon said:
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In comment 13451098 32_Razor said:


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This pick will go down as a legendary pick.



Aaron Rodgers now Joe Montana.

Here's a more realistic take:

Ryan Smithþ
@RSmithNFL


Davis Webb is the Christian Hackenberg of 2017. Big arm but struggles with touch and accuracy at all levels of the field. Not correctable.


That was my impression from the little I saw of him, which is why he wasn't on my radar. How many QBs have improved their accuracy from college? Insane work ethic, pretty good arm, good size but the accuracy was poor.
I'm with Sy'56  
FatHeadTommy : 4/28/2017 11:02 pm : link
Time will tell.
Keep in mind  
DaveW2 : 4/28/2017 11:02 pm : link
Webb is not just Eli's successor, but hopefully a quality backup if, God forbid, Eli gets injured.

3rd round, cost controlled pick on a backup QB  
jcn56 : 4/28/2017 11:02 pm : link
with the realistic probability he could be the successor to Manning?

There's something to dislike about this vs. reaching for a mediocre OL to join the rest of our mediocre OL?
RE: This guy is the next Joe Montana  
Anakim : 4/28/2017 11:03 pm : link
In comment 13451129 32_Razor said:
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He is that good. He picks apart defenses like a shark ripping apart a seal.



So Davis Webb is going to be a top 5 QB of all-time?
would a player like Jayron Hosely have been better?  
mattlawson : 4/28/2017 11:03 pm : link
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The revisionist history with  
Mr. Nickels : 4/28/2017 11:03 pm : link
Nassib is hilarious. He was a high rated QB that fell to the 4th and we traded up for. He ENDED UP as a backup. But everyone who defended it was saying we just took Eli's successor/trade bait to land us a haul of draft picks.

Same shit here with this kid.
RE: SO FAR  
The_Boss : 4/28/2017 11:03 pm : link
In comment 13451078 Sy'56 said:
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NYG Draft

1 - Evan Engram - TE/Ole Miss
2 - Dalvin Tomlinson - DT/Alabama
3 - Davis Webb - QB/California

My Draft

1 - David Njoku - TE/Miami
2 - Dion Dawkins - OL/Temple
3 - Montravious Adams - DT/Auburn


I like your's better.
RE: RE: RE: would you let the next Joe Montana pass thru 3rd rd  
Devon : 4/28/2017 11:04 pm : link
In comment 13451146 Amtoft said:
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In comment 13451139 Devon said:


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In comment 13451098 32_Razor said:


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This pick will go down as a legendary pick.



Aaron Rodgers now Joe Montana.

Here's a more realistic take:

Ryan Smithþ
@RSmithNFL


Davis Webb is the Christian Hackenberg of 2017. Big arm but struggles with touch and accuracy at all levels of the field. Not correctable.



Oh hell no! Not even close! I hated hackenburg. Couldn't hit the side of a Barn. Webb is way better!!


Much closer than this Rodgers/Montana garbage some of y'all are already starting.

He's a third round pick. Worth the chance, but no one should hanging the moon on him.
RE: RE: RE: would you let the next Joe Montana pass thru 3rd rd  
Amtoft : 4/28/2017 11:04 pm : link
In comment 13451149 Anakim said:
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In comment 13451139 Devon said:


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In comment 13451098 32_Razor said:


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This pick will go down as a legendary pick.



Aaron Rodgers now Joe Montana.

Here's a more realistic take:

Ryan Smithþ
@RSmithNFL


Davis Webb is the Christian Hackenberg of 2017. Big arm but struggles with touch and accuracy at all levels of the field. Not correctable.



That was my impression from the little I saw of him, which is why he wasn't on my radar. How many QBs have improved their accuracy from college? Insane work ethic, pretty good arm, good size but the accuracy was poor.


What game did you feel he looked like Hackenberg?
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