I hate to say this but this Giants offensive line is BAD! I Don't see them doing as well this year, harder schedule then last year. Must draft at least one hopeful offensive lineman with one of the next four picks, prefer two but likely to get one. If the Giants don't improve their offensive line they will be lucky to go 8 and 8. Yes, improve and what they have now.
Well, did he play predominantly guard or center for the Utes?
My other question, now that other kid McDermott (UCLA),
is he that big LT? I would hope they go O Line in 4th.
Maybe RB in the 5th?
Off topic, I noticed James Conner went in the 3rd to the
Steelers, was kind of hoping he would be around day 3.
I was on his bandwagon, and I am pulling for that young man!
Relax. After failing to secure a first round talent with each day three pick, Jerry Reese will be forced to admit,"Gee, this drafting process isn't as easy as I
thought it would be."
I wonder if we see the Giants trade a later round pick for a veteran who can fill in for one year or so. That could be pretty much in any area of need (OL, DL, LB, RB). I'd be curious if they pull a trigger like that in the 5th or 6th round.
in golf is moving day. In football, its scouts day. The picks today will likely be made by the Giants scouts. Most day three picks fail, so Id like get a few extra to increase our chances. But Reese apparently does not trade down, and is now about 0 for 75. I dont know a single context where that is a good statistic. This team also has a lot of holes. We need an edge rusher, OL, a CB, and a RB.
Today is about finding players with upside. High ceiling, low floor players. That is the right approach. Reese has simply picked the wrong players. Adrian Robinson (JPP of TEs), Markus Kuhn, every OL (Whimper, Mosley, Brewer, Petrus, McCants, Herman), Geremy Davis, Cooper Taylor, Williams, Jackson, etc. Moore and Bromley were round three picks.
Kennard, Goodson, Perkins, Adams, and possibly Hart create hope, as do his UDFAs, including Lewis, Tye, and Adams. We have to hope that improvement continues.
Here are some players the Giants should target by position, with my favorites being Isaac Asiata, Dorian Johnson, Avery Moss, and Samson Ebukam.
RB: Samaje Perine, Brian Hill, Marlon Mack, Jamal Williams.
WR: Malachi Dupree, Chad Henson.
OT: Andreas Knappe, Joseph Dieugot Jermaine Eleumunor, Adam Bisnowaty, Julien Davenport,
Aviante Collins, and Collin Buchannon. The Giants will add a developmental OT, but it has to be somebody who has a chance to play LT.
G: Dorian Johnson, Isaac Asiata, Kareem Are.
DT: Grover Stewart, Rashaad Coward.
DE: Avery Moss.
LB: Carl Lawson, Samson Ebukam, Paul Magloire,
CB: Jeremy Cutrer, Brian Allen, Marquez White, Channing Stribling.
S: Tedric Thompson.
Let's get some good players. Hopefully, no "rouge" picks.
1. Will they draft a kicker, specifically Zane Gonzalez. We could use one, but in the past, we've just gone to the fa pile if we need one, and after drafting a qb they may feel spending a pick there is too much of a luxury
2. Do they add a running back and try to land another Perkins-ish value on day 3. And if so, are they looking for a big back like Perrine to balance the position, or do they just grab the best athelete, like Marlon Mack. (And is Blount an option later?)
3. Can we get another one of my Richmond Spiders on the team, specifically David Jones. Such an interesting prospect with the size to play safety but enough measurables to keep at cb if they think he can handle it
this late. Might as well stick with Okwara as the third DE.
CB and RB hold good value here.
I really like Deatrich Wise Jr., but he's not exactly a twitchy guy. He won't be a sack guy in the NFL, but I think he can be a base end and be just a solid all-around DE.
Where he typically reaches for a guy whose profile suggests UDFA.
Perkins was slated to go higher last year
Sorry. Should have prefaced it by saying "before last year", the 5th has typically been the round where JR pulls the trigger on a player who has folks scratching their heads. But it is the 5th round. I've always felt after round 3, it's a total crapshoot. Most 4th thru 7th rounders fail anyway.
Do you trust the talent evaluation of the giants in early rounds?
If so
Engram and Tomlinson basically same grade. Both high-
Happy to have taken Davis in 2nd round
I mean I have no idea in what universe was Tomlinson considered a first round pick, so that's a bit concerning. But I guess they see something we don't so if they're ok with it, I guess I have to be ok with it too.
Guy worthless to us for at least three years. Might not pan out just like nassib. So many players who could have helped now. This win now is b.s. when you make a project pick like that. Probably have a decent record but, won't win in the playoffs. Unless they have signings and a trade planned? This pick hurt them, for the time being.
The question I have is was 2016 an anomaly in that Reese found Day 3 quality or will he return to the guy who accumulates Carl Banks described "scholarship" JAG's?
Lacking any, (if so) a RB that can get to the edge DAMN QUICK-LIKE might help alleviate the weak run situation and lack of play action.
Quick I mean quick
My other question, now that other kid McDermott (UCLA),
is he that big LT? I would hope they go O Line in 4th.
Maybe RB in the 5th?
Off topic, I noticed James Conner went in the 3rd to the
Steelers, was kind of hoping he would be around day 3.
I was on his bandwagon, and I am pulling for that young man!
Giants picked 11 spots lower in 4th round today as part of penalty for "walkie-talkie gate" game against Cowboys.
Relax. After failing to secure a first round talent with each day three pick, Jerry Reese will be forced to admit,"Gee, this drafting process isn't as easy as I
thought it would be."
All BBI will rejoice.
Giants picked 11 spots lower in 4th round today as part of penalty for "walkie-talkie gate" game against Cowboys.
Could have been worst, could have lost a pick TBH.
Thanks for the reminder, kind of forgot myself.
What would that take
BBI didn't pick the likes of Adriene Robinson and Mykelle Thompson.
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I love the draft but this is the day I dread on BBI given the reactions to 4-7 round picks.
BBI didn't pick the likes of Adriene Robinson and Mykelle Thompson.
And I still don't like those picks
Giants picked 11 spots lower in 4th round today as part of penalty for "walkie-talkie gate" game against Cowboys.
why does every controversial story thats related to breaking rules have to have the word "gate" at the end lol
Uconn tackle
Rounds 4 and 6
5 and 7 go Edge and CB
RB Samaje Perine of Oklahoma
RB Marlon Mack of South Florida
RB Jeremy McNichols of Boise State
I'm sure one of them will be there.
Keep an eye on OT Julie'n Davenport of Bucknell. A worthy project at OT.
Today is about finding players with upside. High ceiling, low floor players. That is the right approach. Reese has simply picked the wrong players. Adrian Robinson (JPP of TEs), Markus Kuhn, every OL (Whimper, Mosley, Brewer, Petrus, McCants, Herman), Geremy Davis, Cooper Taylor, Williams, Jackson, etc. Moore and Bromley were round three picks.
Kennard, Goodson, Perkins, Adams, and possibly Hart create hope, as do his UDFAs, including Lewis, Tye, and Adams. We have to hope that improvement continues.
Here are some players the Giants should target by position, with my favorites being Isaac Asiata, Dorian Johnson, Avery Moss, and Samson Ebukam.
RB: Samaje Perine, Brian Hill, Marlon Mack, Jamal Williams.
WR: Malachi Dupree, Chad Henson.
OT: Andreas Knappe, Joseph Dieugot Jermaine Eleumunor, Adam Bisnowaty, Julien Davenport,
Aviante Collins, and Collin Buchannon. The Giants will add a developmental OT, but it has to be somebody who has a chance to play LT.
G: Dorian Johnson, Isaac Asiata, Kareem Are.
DT: Grover Stewart, Rashaad Coward.
DE: Avery Moss.
LB: Carl Lawson, Samson Ebukam, Paul Magloire,
CB: Jeremy Cutrer, Brian Allen, Marquez White, Channing Stribling.
S: Tedric Thompson.
Let's get some good players. Hopefully, no "rouge" picks.
In the fourth round though?
Not sure I would be unhappy if we only picked OL and LB from here on out...
Perkins was slated to go higher last year
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is terrific..Pull the trigger
In the fourth round though?
No..6th?
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is terrific..Pull the trigger
In the fourth round though?
No..6th?
Doubt he'll last through the fifth.
But why he is still on the board at all?
2. Do they add a running back and try to land another Perkins-ish value on day 3. And if so, are they looking for a big back like Perrine to balance the position, or do they just grab the best athelete, like Marlon Mack. (And is Blount an option later?)
3. Can we get another one of my Richmond Spiders on the team, specifically David Jones. Such an interesting prospect with the size to play safety but enough measurables to keep at cb if they think he can handle it
CB and RB hold good value here.
CB and RB hold good value here.
I really like Deatrich Wise Jr., but he's not exactly a twitchy guy. He won't be a sack guy in the NFL, but I think he can be a base end and be just a solid all-around DE.
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Where he typically reaches for a guy whose profile suggests UDFA.
Perkins was slated to go higher last year
Sorry. Should have prefaced it by saying "before last year", the 5th has typically been the round where JR pulls the trigger on a player who has folks scratching their heads. But it is the 5th round. I've always felt after round 3, it's a total crapshoot. Most 4th thru 7th rounders fail anyway.
I'll trust Sy and Dave Te and hope they pick up a OT to develop.
If so
Engram and Tomlinson basically same grade. Both high-
Happy to have taken Davis in 2nd round
Draft 3 OL and let them all play and gel together as backups who will block for Davis Webb in 3 years.
If so
Engram and Tomlinson basically same grade. Both high-
Happy to have taken Davis in 2nd round
I mean I have no idea in what universe was Tomlinson considered a first round pick, so that's a bit concerning. But I guess they see something we don't so if they're ok with it, I guess I have to be ok with it too.
If so
Engram and Tomlinson basically same grade. Both high-
Happy to have taken Davis in 2nd round
The level of trust is dependent upon the position drafted based on the last 10 years.
...wide receiver!
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