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2017 NFL Draft: Fifth-Round Discussion Thread

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/29/2017 1:49 pm
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Positions to target (IMHO)  
Cenotaph : 4/29/2017 1:54 pm : link
over the remaining rounds and UDFA:

-LB depth
-CB depth
-DE depth
-OT competition or development guy (if anything left)
-OL depth if no help at OT available

Don't expect they'll spend much more at QB, RB, TE or DT, so probably the best value is to fill out D, possibly grab a WR if one they like. Feel free to disagree!
My top three guys available:  
Anakim : 4/29/2017 1:55 pm : link
Not including interior O-Linemen:

CB/FS Desmond King of Iowa
LB Anthony Walker Jr. of Northwestern
CB Damontae Kazee of San Diego State

I'm sure one of them will be there and any one of them will make me happy.
LOL @ the Jets cheerleaders...  
EricJ : 4/29/2017 1:56 pm : link
they looked like crack whores from Hunts Point
I would go with that kicker  
Rflairr : 4/29/2017 1:56 pm : link
this round
Please  
annexOPR : 4/29/2017 2:00 pm : link
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/2006986/jerry-ugokwe

I really hope this guy is a Giant today.
we need to Draft David Diehl  
George from PA : 4/29/2017 2:01 pm : link
Hardnose OLmen, plays Guard and Tackle.
Bisnowaty maybe?  
WillVAB : 4/29/2017 2:02 pm : link
?
RE: Positions to target (IMHO)  
Jesse B : 4/29/2017 2:03 pm : link
In comment 13452521 Cenotaph said:
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over the remaining rounds and UDFA:

-LB depth
-CB depth
-DE depth
-OT competition or development guy (if anything left)
-OL depth if no help at OT available

Don't expect they'll spend much more at QB, RB, TE or DT, so probably the best value is to fill out D, possibly grab a WR if one they like. Feel free to disagree!


Think biggest remaining need is Kicker.

And it looks kkke if LB doesn't work out they can just keep JT Thomas
Holden, McDermott or Asiata.  
Capt. Don : 4/29/2017 2:03 pm : link
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Kkke=like  
Jesse B : 4/29/2017 2:04 pm : link
Typing on phone
DB, LB or OL please  
AnnapolisMike : 4/29/2017 2:04 pm : link
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Good time for a trade up to get who you want  
AnnapolisMike : 4/29/2017 2:04 pm : link
if you really like them
Asiata, McDermott, Knappe, Bisnowaty  
illmatic : 4/29/2017 2:10 pm : link
among others. Still some good OL guys on the board. One of them should be available.
Fill the rest of the needs now....  
est1986 : 4/29/2017 2:11 pm : link
OG/OT, DE, CB/K




RE: Asiata, McDermott, Knappe, Bisnowaty  
Mike in NY : 4/29/2017 2:12 pm : link
In comment 13452609 illmatic said:
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among others. Still some good OL guys on the board. One of them should be available.


King, Myrick, and Kazee at DB
Phillips at OLB and Blair Brown at ILB

Still plenty of talent left
No to Bisnowaty  
Dave in VA : 4/29/2017 2:14 pm : link
He is not what we need....lots of footage of him getting run over and through....I want the kid from A&M or Asiata
Dang  
Mike in NY : 4/29/2017 2:14 pm : link
Coughlin and Co. just took Blair Brown
Falcons land Kazee  
Mike in NY : 4/29/2017 2:15 pm : link
I really liked him as a nickel CB :(
There goes Kazee to Atlanta  
Anakim : 4/29/2017 2:15 pm : link
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Asiata, King, Elder  
jeff57 : 4/29/2017 2:15 pm : link
OTs like Johnson and McDermott. Not a lot else.
Good point on kicker  
Cenotaph : 4/29/2017 2:16 pm : link
Don't know if we'll draft one, but definitely will target in UDFA, and may still grab a vet K.
With Kazee & Brown off the board  
Mike in NY : 4/29/2017 2:16 pm : link
Add DE Avery Moss and CB Corn Edler to my list
I'm not too high on him  
Sy'56 : 4/29/2017 2:16 pm : link
But surprised to see Bucky Hodges still there
The  
AcidTest : 4/29/2017 2:16 pm : link
biggest problem with the OL is that you're not getting anyone at this point who can start, or probably even play well in spot, this year. You're at most getting a developmental OT.

We also need another LB, preferably one who can rush, and a CB, unless the Giants like Hunter and Deayon more than we think.
Jets get a steal in Jordan Leggett  
Anakim : 4/29/2017 2:17 pm : link
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Sy  
annexOPR : 4/29/2017 2:18 pm : link
thoughts on my guy Jerry Ugokwe? I feel he's the perfect day 3 / developmental "project" with rare attributes.

Really hoping he's a Giant

Should not ignore OL  
Sy'56 : 4/29/2017 2:19 pm : link
at this point simply because they won't start.

What happens if one or 2 of them goes down with injury? You need depth.

Will Holden supplies depth at 3+ spots right away.
RE: Sy  
Sy'56 : 4/29/2017 2:19 pm : link
In comment 13452646 annexOPR said:
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thoughts on my guy Jerry Ugokwe? I feel he's the perfect day 3 / developmental "project" with rare attributes.

Really hoping he's a Giant


Round 7 maybe
Chargers take Desmond King  
Mike in NY : 4/29/2017 2:19 pm : link
They are having a nice draft
There goes DB King to Chargers  
Sy'56 : 4/29/2017 2:20 pm : link
Top value pick of the draft.
RE: Chargers take Desmond King  
jeff57 : 4/29/2017 2:20 pm : link
In comment 13452650 Mike in NY said:
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They are having a nice draft


Yeah, they are.
RE: Chargers take Desmond King  
Sammo85 : 4/29/2017 2:20 pm : link
In comment 13452650 Mike in NY said:
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They are having a nice draft


Pretty clear a lot of teams don't think King translates well or provides value in the NFL.
Desmond King finally goes off the board  
dpinzow : 4/29/2017 2:20 pm : link
to the Chargers
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Anakim : 4/29/2017 2:20 pm : link
My best player available is LB Anthony Walker Jr. of Northwestern



Roderick Johnson would be a decent gamble. He has horrible game tape but he has the talent and measurables you look for in a LT.
RE: Should not ignore OL  
AcidTest : 4/29/2017 2:22 pm : link
In comment 13452648 Sy'56 said:
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at this point simply because they won't start.

What happens if one or 2 of them goes down with injury? You need depth.

Will Holden supplies depth at 3+ spots right away.


Agree. I'm just saying that nobody should be excited about an OL pick because they believe that player is ready to start. They won't. Holden, Knappe, and Dieugot are possibilities.
RE: RE: Sy  
annexOPR : 4/29/2017 2:22 pm : link
In comment 13452649 Sy'56 said:
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In comment 13452646 annexOPR said:


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thoughts on my guy Jerry Ugokwe? I feel he's the perfect day 3 / developmental "project" with rare attributes.

Really hoping he's a Giant




Round 7 maybe


yeah I was thinking 6th at the earliest ... day 3 it's all a roll of the dice anyway. he seems to have it all in theory, just needs a lot of work.
Elder off the clock too  
Mike in NY : 4/29/2017 2:22 pm : link
Next name on my list - DT Elijah Qualls

I know we took Tomlinson, but I think Qualls is an improvement over Bromley or Thomas
There goes Elder  
jeff57 : 4/29/2017 2:22 pm : link
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CB Jalen Myrick of Minnesota  
Anakim : 4/29/2017 2:22 pm : link
Never saw him play but he was the fastest CB at the Combine
2 OL, say 5th and 7th round  
annexOPR : 4/29/2017 2:23 pm : link
would that be out of the question? A few "projects" I'd love to take a chance on ... hope 1 sticks and becomes our next Diehl

Holden or Asiata.  
jeff57 : 4/29/2017 2:25 pm : link
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First kicker off the board; Jake Elliott from Memphis  
dpinzow : 4/29/2017 2:26 pm : link
to the Bengals
Redskins appear to be crushing this draft...  
Reb8thVA : 4/29/2017 2:28 pm : link
At least on paper.
RE: CB Jalen Myrick of Minnesota  
Amtoft : 4/29/2017 2:28 pm : link
In comment 13452665 Anakim said:
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Never saw him play but he was the fastest CB at the Combine


He was good... would love to add him
RE: Redskins appear to be crushing this draft...  
annexOPR : 4/29/2017 2:28 pm : link
In comment 13452679 Reb8thVA said:
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At least on paper.


theres a reason they are annual offseason champs
Wish we could get a corner  
Sonic Youth : 4/29/2017 2:28 pm : link
considering the strength of the draft. at this point though, I'd do backflips if we got Asiata. CB or OL please.
Another name to bring up  
Mike in NY : 4/29/2017 2:29 pm : link
Utah DB Brian Allen
RE: The  
FStubbs : 4/29/2017 2:29 pm : link
In comment 13452641 AcidTest said:
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biggest problem with the OL is that you're not getting anyone at this point who can start, or probably even play well in spot, this year. You're at most getting a developmental OT.

We also need another LB, preferably one who can rush, and a CB, unless the Giants like Hunter and Deayon more than we think.


I thought Flowers and Hart were supposed to be so bad a 5th round rookie couldn't be worse.
A player  
Amtoft : 4/29/2017 2:29 pm : link
I would love is Xavier Woods!
I'm still banging the drum for King  
redbeard : 4/29/2017 2:30 pm : link
He doesn't have the measurables but the guy is just a solid football player. We could do much worse in the fifth
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