Name Avery Moss, School Youngstown State, Hgt 6030, Wgt 263
Strong Points: Strong and long frame. Very strong lower body with explosive straight line traits. Can get in to a blocker and grab his way off a block. Strong and active hands. Pursues hard and finishes when near the action. Disruptive, behind the line of scrimmage defender. Has the flexibility to play low. Productive against the run and pass.
Weak Points: Inconsistent pad level and overall technique. Needs to pay more attention to detail. Doesnt show the quick twitch when approaching the blocker. Needs more late movement Doesnt attack his man with a plan.
Summary: Fifth year senior that began his career at Nebraska with a strong redshirt freshman campaign. He was then dismissed from the school for an off field incident and quickly transferred to Youngstown State, who was coached by Bo Pelini, the Head Coach at Nebraska when Moss was originally recruited there. Moss caught fire again in 2016, earning 1st Team All Missouri Valley Conference honors. He has a combination of tools that coaches will want to work with at the next level. He can fit in to most schemes on the edge.
Final Grade: 6th round
Don't know anything about him other than he's a Nebraska transfer
"He was, unfortunately, then banned from playing in 2014 after being convicted of public indecency stemming from charges that he exposed himself to a convenience store worker in 2012. He'd ultimately follow his former Nebraska coach, Bo Pelini, to Youngstown State University in the hopes of starting over.
Playing opposite fellow draft prospect Derek Rivers, Moss would register 59 tackles (17.5 TFL), four forced fumbles ad 10.5 sacks -- numbers good enough to land him All-Missouri Valley Football Conference honors."
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If Avery Moss isn't a Giants day three target, I don't know who is. Steve Spagnulo type to a T. Tuck/Ayers/Odiggy similarities.
They won't carry 6 DEs and already have JPP, Vernon, Okwara, Owa, Wynn
One injury to any of those guys and that decision gets a lot easier.
Odighizuwa and Wynn look to be on the bubble. Based on how he looked in college and his pre-draft evaluations, Owa has underachieved. But he still has potential. Wynn has overachieved, but seems to have reached his ceiling, and it's relatively low.
You mean there was no decent LB, DB, or OL available at that pick?
This guy does not sound like he is much to write home about. Even NFL.com says he is a 7th-UDFA.
this sounds terrible: "Can unlock and chase to the perimeter or from the backside with plus acceleration. Combines upper body flexibility, foot quickness and length for fast wins in pass rush. Shoulder dip around edge is his go-to move. Burst to the quarterback will catch your eye."
We should have gone Mixon, take the PR hit and had a fantastic backfield.
IK no one cares about a pants dropper 5th who probably gets cut versus a female puncher in the second that makes your O even more dynamic now and the future, but, just saying.
the production. Character problems are why he was dismissed from Nebraska, but that was two years ago. Nothing since. Time to take a chance. Profile - ( New Window )
Absolutely correct. He's going to double down on stupid and show the entire world who knows how bad we need to address the o-line just how wrong the whole world is. I pray this is his last year in NY. He has no imagination to run a draft.
Absolutely correct. He's going to double down on stupid and show the entire world who knows how bad we need to address the o-line just how wrong the whole world is. I pray this is his last year in NY. He has no imagination to run a draft.
he sure would've shown quite a bit of imagination had he drafted an OL early. by imagination I mean imagining that most of the OL taken early would be day 1 upgrades to the OL. silly Reese played to the strengths of the draft while still addressing "needs". the OL class sucking this year was Reese's fault too.
Lisa Olsen says she likes him despite his shortcomings
Absolutely correct. He's going to double down on stupid and show the entire world who knows how bad we need to address the o-line just how wrong the whole world is. I pray this is his last year in NY. He has no imagination to run a draft.
he sure would've shown quite a bit of imagination had he drafted an OL early. by imagination I mean imagining that most of the OL taken early would be day 1 upgrades to the OL. silly Reese played to the strengths of the draft while still addressing "needs". the OL class sucking this year was Reese's fault too.
He's consistent..The same type of posts year 'round..Not sure why he roots(does he?) for the Giants..You know EXACTLY what kind of post you'll see whenever that handle appears..Oh, wait, "I'm objective. I don't drink the Kool-Aid like most on here."
"Hes a worker with great pursuit skills and the motor to make plays on a second attempt. Moss can be a hitter when arriving at the ball and isnt afraid of contact. Hell stick his nose in the backfield on rushing downs and can will his way past blockers. Moss first-step quickness flashed at the FCS level. His arm length and size are worth developing given his motor and work ethic."
We should have gone Mixon, take the PR hit and had a fantastic backfield.
I hear you, but there's a risk/reward thing here.
A 5th-rounder is a lower-risk pick.
There's also a difference between violence and indecent exposure. Picking a guy with violence in his past (multiple incidents, according to some reports) is extra risk. What Moss is absolutely a red flag on his judgment, respect for women, etc., and it's bad, but it's not the same as hitting someone.
Strong Points: Strong and long frame. Very strong lower body with explosive straight line traits. Can get in to a blocker and grab his way off a block. Strong and active hands. Pursues hard and finishes when near the action. Disruptive, behind the line of scrimmage defender. Has the flexibility to play low. Productive against the run and pass.
Weak Points: Inconsistent pad level and overall technique. Needs to pay more attention to detail. Doesnt show the quick twitch when approaching the blocker. Needs more late movement Doesnt attack his man with a plan.
Summary: Fifth year senior that began his career at Nebraska with a strong redshirt freshman campaign. He was then dismissed from the school for an off field incident and quickly transferred to Youngstown State, who was coached by Bo Pelini, the Head Coach at Nebraska when Moss was originally recruited there. Moss caught fire again in 2016, earning 1st Team All Missouri Valley Conference honors. He has a combination of tools that coaches will want to work with at the next level. He can fit in to most schemes on the edge.
Final Grade: 6th round
Playing opposite fellow draft prospect Derek Rivers, Moss would register 59 tackles (17.5 TFL), four forced fumbles ad 10.5 sacks -- numbers good enough to land him All-Missouri Valley Football Conference honors."
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They won't carry 6 DEs and already have JPP, Vernon, Okwara, Owa, Wynn
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Mowatt, I assume
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Mowatt, I assume
I presume..It was Jerry West's nickname in College
If Avery Moss isn't a Giants day three target, I don't know who is. Steve Spagnulo type to a T. Tuck/Ayers/Odiggy similarities.
Look at his April 20th comments
This guy does not sound like he is much to write home about. Even NFL.com says he is a 7th-UDFA.
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Lawyers don't work on Sundays
Good thing we're not playing West Virginia this year
They won't carry 6 DEs and already have JPP, Vernon, Okwara, Owa, Wynn
Odighizuwa and Wynn look to be on the bubble. Based on how he looked in college and his pre-draft evaluations, Owa has underachieved. But he still has potential. Wynn has overachieved, but seems to have reached his ceiling, and it's relatively low.
This guy does not sound like he is much to write home about. Even NFL.com says he is a 7th-UDFA.
Pass rush is a constant need with this DC.
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This guy does not sound like he is much to write home about. Even NFL.com says he is a 7th-UDFA.
this sounds terrible: "Can unlock and chase to the perimeter or from the backside with plus acceleration. Combines upper body flexibility, foot quickness and length for fast wins in pass rush. Shoulder dip around edge is his go-to move. Burst to the quarterback will catch your eye."
close call, but not 'too narrow'
hahahahaha
now, the new QB? someone get the kid some steaks. hehehehehe
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Thought he looked good playing the run and in pursuit,
IK no one cares about a pants dropper 5th who probably gets cut versus a female puncher in the second that makes your O even more dynamic now and the future, but, just saying.
Three years ago.
JPP OV Okwara Moss OO ... sounds good to me
Absolutely correct. He's going to double down on stupid and show the entire world who knows how bad we need to address the o-line just how wrong the whole world is. I pray this is his last year in NY. He has no imagination to run a draft.
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And not draft one olineman lol. Hysteria ensues.
Absolutely correct. He's going to double down on stupid and show the entire world who knows how bad we need to address the o-line just how wrong the whole world is. I pray this is his last year in NY. He has no imagination to run a draft.
he sure would've shown quite a bit of imagination had he drafted an OL early. by imagination I mean imagining that most of the OL taken early would be day 1 upgrades to the OL. silly Reese played to the strengths of the draft while still addressing "needs". the OL class sucking this year was Reese's fault too.
Who is Lisa Olsen?
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Who is Lisa Olsen?
the Boston Globe reporter who Zeke Mowatt did his Magic Mike show for back in 1990.
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And not draft one olineman lol. Hysteria ensues.
Absolutely correct. He's going to double down on stupid and show the entire world who knows how bad we need to address the o-line just how wrong the whole world is. I pray this is his last year in NY. He has no imagination to run a draft.
he sure would've shown quite a bit of imagination had he drafted an OL early. by imagination I mean imagining that most of the OL taken early would be day 1 upgrades to the OL. silly Reese played to the strengths of the draft while still addressing "needs". the OL class sucking this year was Reese's fault too.
He's consistent..The same type of posts year 'round..Not sure why he roots(does he?) for the Giants..You know EXACTLY what kind of post you'll see whenever that handle appears..Oh, wait, "I'm objective. I don't drink the Kool-Aid like most on here."
A 5th-rounder is a lower-risk pick.
There's also a difference between violence and indecent exposure. Picking a guy with violence in his past (multiple incidents, according to some reports) is extra risk. What Moss is absolutely a red flag on his judgment, respect for women, etc., and it's bad, but it's not the same as hitting someone.
Marty, have you ever seen a draft with such a dearth of good OL in the first 3 rounds or so?
I know. Right?
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