Giants Draft is Over....they gave up their 7th rounder

addressed every need. Didn't waste any picks on secondary or wide receiver like they do annually.

Now sign Blount Pastor and Dan Williams and find a kicker and let's get to work.

;)

Not big on the 5th round pick, but I like everyone else they picked up.

Davis Webb was really an atrocious pick IMO. Utterly pointless and does nothing to help us in our window. Engram seems solid, though I'd have gone Njoku. It's baffling they passed on Foreman to take Webb. Extremely frustrating.

Ok. B-

lots of talent stll out there

this seems like a trend

Just hope the WR in TE's clothes can block (when needed).

2 great picks and then a bunch of head scratchers 6th round oline is ok, and same with Gallman.

but certainly protective measures must be considered and taken..If, as Dave te says that physically he's a Jay Culer type but with Eli smarts and work ethic, I'm fine with the pick

But I have to trust Ross and Reese. They know more than I do and they've studied the Draft more than I have.


If they're ok with how it went, I'm ok

well, BUT I MAY HAVE TO LIVE TO 100 TO SEE REESE TRADE DOWN.

Engram.
Tomlinson.
Webb.
Gallman.
Moss.
Bisnowaty.

I'm still somewhat concerned about Tomlinson's knees, but his last ACL tear was more than three years ago, he's a DL, and medical technology today for that surgery is excellent. I would have preferred Knappe to Bisnowaty, but there were rumors that the Giants liked both.

I also know why Reese traded up to get Bisnowaty. He was on BBI between picks reading all the complaints about how he was neglecting the OL. That and seeing O'Hara say the same thing on TV.

Webb might end up being solid but I feel like they're in win now mode and should have went in another direction in round 3. QB could've waited until next year but oh well.

we hit on 2 big needs. I imagine most pundits won't like the overall draft, I'll trust our scouting dept for the later round guys

Happy we didn't reach for an OL, I'm sure we'll add a couple more UDFA OL to compete too

good value at each spot (Tomlinson was criminally underrated and will be a stud). Should have picked someone else in the 3rd and Kaaya later at QB in the 5th

In comment 13453272 Sonic Youth said:

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Davis Webb was really an atrocious pick IMO. Utterly pointless and does nothing to help us in our window. Engram seems solid, though I'd have gone Njoku. It's baffling they passed on Foreman to take Webb. Extremely frustrating.

At some point they will have to replace Eli. I don't know if it ever will feel like the right moment to spend that pick on a replacement instead of someone that could help elsewhere unless you have waited too long.

In comment 13453272 Sonic Youth said:

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Davis Webb was really an atrocious pick IMO. Utterly pointless and does nothing to help us in our window. Engram seems solid, though I'd have gone Njoku. It's baffling they passed on Foreman to take Webb. Extremely frustrating.

Couldn't agree more. Not taking Foreman will bite Reese in the ass

And I wanted Njoku too

Engram was a great pick and will take our offense to another level.
Tomlinson is a good pick but I was hoping that they would go with Wormley if they went DT in round two because I felt that he would have been a better fit next to Harrison.
I did not like the Webb pick at all either because I am not sure what his ceiling is. I wanted to wait until next year to get Eli's future replacement. If Webb truly has Cutler's ability with an actual work ethic then I will be very happy with this pick in time.

I thought they did good work at the bottom of the draft....Bisnowaty was hurt this year an I wonder if they think his ceiling is a little higher than some think because he was considered a top flight prospect after last year. Davis Webb...its going to take a long time before we can pass judgement.

I'm generally happy that there seems to be a good plan and a good process in plan to execute.

P.S. I just wish the overall tone about the draft would calm down a bit because it would make better reading. I don't get upset when "MY GUY" isn't picked or "THE POSITION OF GLARING NEED!!!" isn't addressed early enough.

Who do you get instead.

There wan't an OL drafted for the rest of the round which included 10 supplemental picks. Dorian Johnson and Nico Siragusa were drafted 10 and 16 of round 4. 30 picks later. I don't think we missed anything OL-wise.

There were a bunch of DBs. Griffin, Lewis, Sutton, Tankersley went in the next 10 picks so that's where there was talent to match a need for the Giants.

Except Webb. Waste of a pick for at least three years. Looks like j.t. Thomas sticks around for another year? All I've heard is goodson ready to take over mlb job. Next year lb draft, since goodson only lb under contract after this year.

Really falls off next year may be a year late to grab a QB.

In comment 13453338 BillT said:

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Who do you get instead. There wan't an OL drafted for the rest of the round which included 10 supplemental picks. Dorian Johnson and Nico Siragusa were drafted 10 and 16 of round 4. 30 picks later. I don't think we missed anything OL-wise. There were a bunch of DBs. Griffin, Lewis, Sutton, Tankersley went in the next 10 picks so that's where there was talent to match a need for the Giants.

You could go LB, S, CB, heck even DE again in Round 3 instead of QB

wish they could have come away with a corner.

Didn't really like the Webb pick at first, thought they could have come away with a decent corner or LB, but after watching him break down some tape in an interview, I can see why they took him. I think he's the perfect guy to develop.

i like it. didnt reach on a need (OL) made a small move up for a OT they liked. replaced hankins in second. took a serious weapon in first. gallman is a hard running back who could be nice on short yardage downs.

In terms of Webb, i really like the pick. elis play is declining with age. its life...2-3 years left....webb learns behind eli and has the physical tools to become a solid QB....maybe he becomes a good QB either way i am happy we are looking to the future even though we are a win now team the value was there

Gallman reminds me of Tyrone Wheatley. And there were better alternatives than Moss.

Plus no LBs. Kennard, Robinson and Casillas will be FAs after this season.

that the offense can be better. And that's what being a fan is about: having (realistic) hope. Marshall signing didn't do it for me because "going old" is almost never the answer.

Rest of draft seems sensible. Toughest call for me would have been Webb vs the CBs that were still available. Have to hope (that word again) that our top three CBs stay healthy. And I see enough from Webb to justify the pick.

In comment 13453334 Semipro Lineman said:

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I just wish the overall tone about the draft would calm down a bit because it would make better reading. I don't get upset when "MY GUY" isn't picked or "THE POSITION OF GLARING NEED!!!" isn't addressed early enough.

+1 Nothing wrong with having diffferent opinions and disagreeing with who the Giants took, but some people really take the whining to an absurd level. Don't know why, but it bothered me more than years past.

Makes me really appreciate the posters who stay committed to offering good informed opinions

Njoku
Tomlinson
Foreman
Cornerback
Moss
Bisnoworthy

Because they drafted Webb I give a B-

I like Engram but would've liked Njoku more

I feel Washington Redskins' draft is best in the NFC East. At least from name recognition/value...it is great. They seem to follow Sy'56 list :)....this team got better.

I see nothing special about Dallas' draft and compared to what they lost in FA.....I feel they have fallen behind.

Philly seemed to have a decent plan and did well for themselves.....don't get achilles corner in 2nd.

The only pick that I have issue with the Giants is Webb as he does not look that impressive but time will tell. I actually like all the other picks. I trust the Giants drafting DLmen. The OLmen could be as good as any of the other guys if you ask me....the RB is maybe nothing special but fits the need and I really like our 1st pick..

so the NFC East draft goes

Washington
Giants
Eagles
Cowboys.

and slow in reading his progressions are 2 big weaknesses, at 22, I don't see upside worth a 3rd.
But WTH do I know about QB'ing.

I really like the 1st round pick. My only worry there is that we use him wrong. I think he's a matchup nightmare. Eli has weapons. I think the OL was a worst case scenario last year and Richburg, Pugh, and hopefully Flowers look a lot better this year.

The draft isn't as much about our "window" as it is about building a pool of talent for the future.

picks should start or at least see playing time week 1. Gallman might see some snaps early.

I think they really helped the offense this off season though by adding two legit receivers. Gotta pray for this offensive line to be average.

Engram is a great target - reminds me of the TEs GB Jermichael Finley. And, he'll get stronger and may add a bit of weight although hopefully not at the expense of losing that athleticism and speed.

Tomlinson - very good DT who started on the gold standard for college football. Watched a bit of tape on him - not an X's - O's guy but some things are obvious even to the casual observer of college football. Takes up two blockers, often followed play across the field or downfield. Former soccer player which means his feet are probably better than some think. wrestler = fighter, mental toughness, conditioning. And with few exceptions (Bill2, Schnitzie, and few others ) smarter than anyone on BBI.

Like a lot of people I would have liked to see them grab an OL or DE in 3rd round. But. Eli ain't gonna play forever. So, if you think you see the guy you grab him. 99.9% of people on BBI who say he isn't the guy are talking out of their ass. Finding and developing a franchise QB is arguably the hardest task for GMs and HCs to accomplish. He's got NFL skills and time to grow with the perfect mentor and HC. Time will tell.

Gallman - Productive RB from a national champion. skill set similar to Jennings. We need a rb - we have no proven rbs although I like what I see from Perkins.

Haven't had a chance to check out the last two yet.

I KNEW he was gonna go there. Ugh

so they should be busy

would of been nice. Especially since this draft was filled with great ones. We all saw how our D can get torched with a single injury. I didnt want to draft a qb. I wanted to be all in n get the qb next yyr. Hopefully Webb ends up not being a waste.

Engram was a great pickup and will be a matchup nightmare.

Tomlinson wasn't a sexy pick but it filled a need. Believe Dave Te that NFL teams had him graded higher than the media did. He can play all over the defensive line and is tough as nails.

Webb was a bad pick for a team looking to win now. He'll hopefully never start while Eli's here and like our resident experts Sy and Dave Te said, his tape looks more Ryan Mallet or Nick Foles, than a future franchise quarterback.

Gallman is a pretty pedestrian guy who lacks any elite traits. Don't see him unseating Perkins as the lead dog or solving their search for a power back. He's tough but he's not gonna do anything special.

Moss looks just like Damontre Moore. Tall, lean, athletic and completely undisciplined. He looks good at the college level where he can out athlete people, but will need a lot of work in the weight room and a lot of development with the mental side of things if he ever wants to become relevant at this level. Seems like a wasted pick for a guy who's probably more practice squad level right now than rotational contributor.

Bisnowaty was the guy they should have gotten in the 5th rd. According to Dave Te his senior year was marred by foot problems but he is the goods when fully healthy. Hopefully this is the guy that can salvage a lackluster back half of the draft for the Giants and at least push Hart, Fluker, and Flowers for a starting spot on the line.

for Giants fans. For me not to be underestimated is the humor at reading so many fans comments on how Reese is terrible, or some one dropped their pants.
The draft is a crap shoot except for rare players and no one knows how most of this turns out for at least two years. I do think the Giants need a FB or equivalent to make the running game. I am aware FBS aren't drafted any more but hopefully we get one and use one in UDFA.

other than that it's good to have football in focus and rising on the horizon

As we watch Wade get burned again?

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The very best way to plan for continuity and avoid being the Browns is to have a young, talented QB on the roster.

It was the right thing to with Nassib, the right thing with Webb, and hopefully we'll have do it again in 4 years.

don't mind the Webb pick, it might be better to throw a few picks against the wall in that position. I wouldn't be disposed to another next year in the 2nd round.

a great draft all by himself. That being said, I think they also filled needs -- DT, RB. I'm happy they didn't chase OL in a bad draft for that position and I'm OK with taking a shot with Webb. Hope they get the kicker as an UDFA

and found "giant type" guys throughout. Engram may be the tipping point weapon for our passing game. We replaced Hankins. Webb might be our next QB. Gallman give us a nice rotation again. Moss is a Giant Type Pass Rusher. And the blue collar tackle from Pitt is the kind of player that has worked out for us.

And a CB in round 3 instead of Webb. CB was so deep and we didn't draft into the strongest position.

but fizzled out with the usual JAG type picks and trading up for no reason.

As a comparison,2012 was an 8.5