CONFIRMED UDFA Signings Thread

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(I know, their scores can be a little goofy and dated, but still...)

Jones, Jarron DT 6'6" 316 Notre Dame 5.53
Buchanan, Collin OL 6'5" 316 Miami (OH) 5.51
Rudolph, Travis WR 6'0" 189 Florida St. 5.49
Scott, Artavis WR 5'10" 193 Clemson 5.47
Cox Jr., Bryan DE 6'3" 265 Florida 5.46
Dural, Travin WR 6'1" 202 LSU 5.46
Johnson, Jadar S 6'0" 206 Clemson 5.45

As CiP said, any of these players would have been a credible draft pick - especially with the seventh-round choice that the Giants gave up to get Bisnowaty. Among the other UDFA additions, Dunker was graded at 5.28, Wheeler at 5.0, Munson at 4.95. Obviously, none of this matter now. On to mini-camp!

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Love the Wheeler pick. He was literally one of Boylhart's top rated prospects overall, not just for OL....

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Chad is an efficiently, smart, athletic pure left tackle who reminds me a lot of Browns Joe Thomas. He�s a smooth operator working his position with the fluidity of shark in deep waters calmly hunting for its prey. When pass block he comes off the snap quickly establishes his technique and then calmly without losing his techniques adjust to his opponents attack. What I like about Chad�s play is that he doesn�t lose his techniques, believes in them and never seems to panic when an opponent looks as if they are going to be beat him and sack his quarterback. Chad�s ability to recover and adjust and continue to trust his techniques along with his natural athletic talents shows maturity beyond most left tackles coming out in a draft.

But it comes with a warning...

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Chad�s Medical history is the only issue that I think could affect Chad�s draft status. His history of injuries and operations are extensive and has to be taken into account. I think it would be very difficult for teams to select Chad early in this draft.

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Aaron Wilson ✔@AaronWilson_NFL
Penn State DE-LB Evan Schwan to New York Giants on UDFA deal


Armando Bonheur‏ @ArmandoBonheur
Time to go to work #Blessed


The above is an OL from Samford

Still time, but I imagine they're going quickly.

FWIW, Gil Brandt has this guy ranked 135 on his top 150 board. That reflects a 5th round rating, which ain't bad.

So, it does look like we picked up 3 OL guys who might give us added depth and may even start: Nasty, Dunker, Wheeler

In comment 13454163 yatqb said:

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Still time, but I imagine they're going quickly.

Haven't heard of anyone who hasn't been taken except for Will Likely III out of Maryland...and he's 5'7...and injured.


But other than that, he's awesome. Amazing athleticism.

Hope he makes the team. They really need one.

And a couple of extra TEs. AMEN.

How on earth was he not drafted? He's a legit NFL receiver at least when I saw him at FSU

1. Shane Smith, FB, San Jose State
2. Travis Rudolph, WR, Florida State***
3. Keeon Johnson, WR, Virginia
4. Romond Deloatch, TE/DE, Temple
5. Collin Thompson, TE, Temple
6. Jessamen Dunker, OG, Middle Tennessee***
7. Chad Wheeler, OL, USC***
8. Armando Bonheur, OL, Samford
9. Sam Ekwonike, OL, Coastal Carolina
10. Jarron Jones, DT, Notre Dame***
11. Josh Banks, DT, Wake Forest
12. Evan Schwan, DE/OLB, Penn State
13. Calvin Munson, OLB, San Diego State
14. Jadar Johnson, S, Clemson***

In comment 13454174 dpinzow said:

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How on earth was he not drafted? He's a legit NFL receiver at least when I saw him at FSU

I know, right? He ran a very slow 40 and should've gone back to school, but he would be a fantastic guy to develop. I love the player, the talent and the potential.

Jax Jaguars. He was another highly rated OL guy several people had him high.

I follow OL guys very closely.

He is at worst a 5th round pick based on talent. Giants got a steal and a guy who can fill in well if Marshall or Shepard get hurt

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I think several BBIers mentioned him as a possible complement to Perkins. He's a load, but doesn't seem to have many other NFL qualities.

I think the only one of my targets left is Max Rich. Any word on him yet?

In comment 13454204 Milton said:

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I think the only one of my targets left is Max Rich. Any word on him yet?

Just googled Max Rich and it looks like he signed with the Patriots. Harvard guy wanted to stay in New England apparently...
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RB Stanley Williams?! Went undrafted, but I think Bengals have signed him now.. smh.

Yes, we have found the LT of the future, after an exhaustive search in the draft...LOL!
All kinds of red flags, from that link posted above,
guess that's why he went undrafted.

is the link I am referring to above, off the field as well.

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from U of Montreal who ran a 4.62 in his CFL tryout Dan Duggan joked he can kickoff & cover his kick!

When you can get 5 of them: Wheeler, Rudolph, Dunker, Jones, and Johnson.

The roster is. Very this at corner

to Jeremy Cutrer? I thought the Giants were hot on him.

In comment 13454439 Ron Johnson said:

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The roster is. Very this at corner

This is true. However, they did bring in one vet- Blake- to provide some cushion. I was intrigued by Donte Deacon last camp, but he was not ready to play. I wonder whether a year on the practice squad has "gotten him over the hump" to being ready- or if he simply is just too small to play in the NFL.

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But very happy he did. Maybe he can keep engram at end when Marshall retires.

Like the o and d line potential signings, hopefully we get some solid depth here and luck out with someone who can start.

Was hoping we would get more than one guy to push our LBs. With no one drafted and seemingly always the weakest link on defense, mildly disappointing.

In comment 13454439 Ron Johnson said:

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The roster is. Very this at corner

What, Valentino Blake doesn't excite people, don't know
anything abut the guy. They can find a couple free agent
backups, they found Sensabaugh and Wade that way.

Travis Rudolph needs to work with a personal trainer. His speed and vertical for a guy with average size won't get him past camp competition. PS guy, future depends on athletics improving combined with intangibles.

Wheeler needs strength training. He is definitely competing for a PS slot, not roster slot, in camp.

Dan Duggan‏Verified account @DDuggan21 2m2 minutes ago
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Spoke too soon on the lack of UDFA CB signings. Giants will sign Iowa State CB Nigel Tribune, per source.

Sure, it would be nice to get immediate help from the UDFA crop, but that's not the only way to benefit from these signings. In some ways, the team may reap more by parking these guys on the practice squad and conserving their full four years of cost control. Obviously, PS players have to clear waivers and remain free to sign elsewhere; but having passed through the draft and finding the Giants to be their best opportunity, they aren't all that likely to get a better offer elsewhere unless another team suffers a major injury wave at a particular position.

For signees like Jones and Wheeler, who have battled injuries, or Johnson, Dunker and Rudolph, who need time in an NFL program, 2017 is likely a redshirt year anyway. It's better for the team if they don't earn a year of service while spending game day in street clothes.

do their homework on players that had an off field issue. Hopefully it is nothing more.
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I'm researching these guys for my next update.

This is a pretty good group.

YANKEE28 said:

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Dan Duggan‏Verified account @DDuggan21 2m2 minutes ago More Spoke too soon on the lack of UDFA CB signings. Giants will sign Iowa State CB Nigel Tribune, per source.

Tribune's final year at Iowa State was derailed by an arrest for drunk driving, among their things. He was suspended, played just six games, and seems to have dropped off the draft radar.

In comment 13454601 Eric from BBI said:

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I'm researching these guys for my next update. This is a pretty good group.

We have planned a podcast for tomorrow to chat about the Giants' UDFAs with Dave Te and Sy'56

but Dunker's writeups and measureables are impressive.

BP- 16, VJ- 35.5", BJ- 10' 6", 40- 4.46, 3-Cone- 7.21

Perfectly respectable stuff there, even adjusting for typical pro-day distortion. He's not real big, but not particularly undersized either.

Will Likely is definitely an impact player for special teams as punt or kickoff returner. He had a torn ACL that ended his season early.
In comment 13454170 Anakim said:

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In comment 13454163 yatqb said: Quote: Still time, but I imagine they're going quickly. Haven't heard of anyone who hasn't been taken except for Will Likely III out of Maryland...and he's 5'7...and injured. But other than that, he's awesome. Amazing athleticism.

but said he should be drafted late due to his injury history.
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I like Jadar Johnson, FS, Clemson
Jarron Jones, DT, Notre Dame
Travis Rudolph, WR, Florida State
all have good chance of roster spots

In comment 13454439 Ron Johnson said:

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The roster is. Very this at corner

Most teams in this league don't have two legitimate starters.

Perspective.

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USC redshirt senior left tackle Chad Wheeler was named a first team All-American by CampusInsiders.com, becoming the Trojans third All-American in 2016. A third name will go up on USC�s All-American walk after this season, as Trojan left tackle Chad Wheeler was voted to the Campus Insiders All-American first team. The All-American nod is the cherry on top of an exceptional redshirt senior season for Wheeler, who was also named to the All-Pac-12 first team and took home honors as one of USC�s Linemen of the Year. The left tackle protected Sam Darnold�s blindside and helped the Trojans limit opposing teams to just 11 sacks on the season � the best mark in the conference.

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the other 2, barring injuries or combine being indicative of true fatal athletic flaws, have absolutely no chance of grabbing a roster spot.

that the Giants have signed Rob Wheelwright from Wisconsin.

It was announced yesterday that he signed with the Panthers, but that isn't true.

In comment 13454756 Jon in NYC said:

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that the Giants have signed Rob Wheelwright from Wisconsin. It was announced yesterday that he signed with the Panthers, but that isn't true.

You sure about that?

injuries, Johnson is the only one with a chance at the 53. A few others (Dunker, Wheeler, Munson, Rudolph, Jones) have a legitimate chance at the PS.