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To me - team's obvious Achilles heal

Bob in Newburgh : 4/30/2017 11:10 am
CB -

Frankly I did not expect Reese to thin out the draft with high selections to replace Hankins and gamble on getting first round future talent at QB.

We are one injury away from disaster with starters who are not proven immune and play a position where you really cannot pull up and get them next time ala Eli.

Make no mistake - #s 1,2 & 3 are tops. I am not so worried about #4 as #4, but #4 as #3. The only hope I see here is vast internal improvement of the pass rush.
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Rasul Douglas instead of  
5BowlsSoon : 4/30/2017 5:22 pm : link
Webb is what I was thinking when it happened live. Today, I'm undecided.
RE: RE: DE is scary thing. They're relying on​ both JPP and Vernon to play  
Victor in CT : 4/30/2017 5:26 pm : link
In comment 13454881 BillT said:
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In comment 13454839 Victor in CT said:


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Every down of every game. JPP almost never does that and his surgery was much more serious and complicated than initially thought.

Same at CB. DRC is always little dinged up and that usually doesn't improve with age.



How is this true? They have invested in a number of DEs to spell those two. Okwara, OO, Wynn and this years #5 pick Moss. You make it sound like if you don't have 3 pro bowl DEs you one short. We have as much depth and talent at DE as any team in the league.

And we drafted Apple last year just to put DRC in a position that he wouldn't have to play every snap (which he didn't)


Odi has shown ZERO so far. Wynn has shown that he is JAG at best. and you're smart enough to know that you cant could t on a fifth rounder to be an immediate contributor.

What happened when DRC want down against GB in the playoffs?
'team's obvious Achilles heal'...  
Torrag : 4/30/2017 6:10 pm : link
...you're wrong on two counts. First you can't spell heel in the correct context. Second the obvious Achille's heel of this team is the O-Line. It' not even debatable so don't try.

That's a wrap.
Mentioned that 6 hours ago  
Jimmy Googs : 4/30/2017 6:16 pm : link
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To be fair  
pjcas18 : 4/30/2017 6:21 pm : link
the Giants have/had many Achilles heels if that's possible.

I don't see how anyone could watch the playoff game with GB and not feel like CB was an Achilles heel once DRC went out and GB had time to adjust their game plan it was painfully obvious, along with offensive weapons, and pass rush.

PJ - don't disagree as the fall off from our starting CBs to reserves  
Jimmy Googs : 4/30/2017 6:26 pm : link
may be the sharpest in the NFL. Clearly Aaron Rodgers knew.

I just think a marginal upgrade there is easier to execute than at Offensive Tackle because of the larger volume of players that can step in at CB...
RE: PJ - don't disagree as the fall off from our starting CBs to reserves  
pjcas18 : 4/30/2017 6:31 pm : link
In comment 13455323 Jimmy Googs said:
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may be the sharpest in the NFL. Clearly Aaron Rodgers knew.

I just think a marginal upgrade there is easier to execute than at Offensive Tackle because of the larger volume of players that can step in at CB...


I agree with that too and that they didn't draft a CB doesn't bother me. My thoughts are a free agent CB is better suited for what the Giants need anyway.

I'd like to see one of the names I mentioned above, McCourty (depending on price), Shields, Flowers, etc. maybe even Verner who has to be one of the worst FA signings benefits from a change of scenery.

All of them would be better than Hunter, Blake, Deayon more than likely
Hunter is a bulls-eye. Not sure on the others  
Jimmy Googs : 4/30/2017 6:34 pm : link
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Bill2 : 4/30/2017 6:42 pm : link
Hey Yat
weak, or in contention for our strongest position  
Mike in Long Beach : 4/30/2017 7:30 pm : link
Tomato, tomaato.
This is absolutely ridiculous  
Mr. Nickels : 5/1/2017 12:19 am : link
This is the strength of the team. Unless Eli Apple is a bust and I don't think he is.
Well..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/1/2017 8:37 am : link
when you type this kind of horseshit, it sort of invalidates the rest of the rant, no?

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Tomlinson is more problematic to me. I believed Hankins was solid, nothing more and I would not have re-signed him at what he went for. We drafted an immoveable object type to both replace him and back up DH. I think in a passing League, this is a misallocation of scarce resources. Tying up the money in DH and the high pick in DT, creates an early down situation which opposing coaches with brains will just ignore. Why beat your head against the wall running up the gut when you can pass, and due to personnel of the Giants, your QB will have all day to wait for someone to break open.


Not only are you mischaracterizing Tomlinson, you clearly have little to no undersatnding of the importance and advantage to taking up space on the DL. So space-hogging DT's that can't rush the passer allow the opposing QB's all day to throw? The lack of football knowledge here is astounding, especially when the OP tries to make it seem like he has a good grasp of it.
Misallocated concern  
njm : 5/1/2017 8:49 am : link
Why worry about the 4th CB when there are legitimate concerns about both #1 OTs?
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