matched the receiving numbers Kratch predicts for Engram (40/500). If that's 'all' he does this year, I'll be disappointed. I don't think he'll be Shockey good (74 rec/894 yds/2 TDs as a rookie), but I'm hoping for closer to 60/600/4, especially since he has Beckham drawing most the Ds attention.
Especially since I don't think DT will get a lot of snaps in obvious passing situations. Hopefully at least one of Moss/Okwara/OO steps up and shows the ability to get after the QB.
I like his Moss prediction (becoming #3 DE by year end) too, though I think that's as much because of my disappointment in OO as my hope for Moss.
re: Bisnowaty - suprised there's no mention of him (hopefully) pushing Jerry at RG. Would love if he could beat out Jerry and Fluker could lock down the RT spot.
in this type of write-up, since the worst case scenario is always a major injury early in camp that wipes out the rookie season and we basically lose a year.
Webb shows enough to be the 2nd QB....and Giants only carries 2 QB
That would be great but I think the chances of that are slim. That would allow the Giants to keep an extra DE, OL, LB, or S. I really hope that the Giants keep 9 offensive linemen as I do not want to expose Wheeler to waivers. I wouldn't be surprised to see Dunker stashed on IR if he suffers a minor injury during the end of the preseason.
The individual stats for Engram don't mean that much to me.
The impact he'll have with or without the ball in his hands does. The opportunities he'll create for others does.
Chicken vs egg scenario. IMO, early on it'll be Ds daring him (really anyone but Beckham) to beat them so he'll have plenty of opportunities to generate some impressive stats. If he takes advantage of those early opportunities and Ds adjust to try and limit him, then his stats may dip though his impact will remain high as you point out. But he's gotta prove he's (much) more of a threat than Tye was.
Just one more opinion by a writer who needs to express an opinion to keep his job. No one knows the coaches' ultimate plans or how the players will react once on the field with helmets and pads and real players hitting them.
If I had a good paying job as a sports writer, I'd do the same thing even though I would have to pull predictions out of my ass. It puts food on the table and shoes on the kids to keep the job.
they will load up versus beckham and marshall and put thier 4th DB on engram he has a chance to show us he will be everything they expect right out of the gate and score 1 maybe 2 TD's in week 1,with that emphasis on the big 2 i also would look for sterling to have a big game also
I can't expect Engram to have a better rookie year than Shepard
Someone from last year is going to suffer fewer catches. Beckham, Shepard, everyone else?
Unless the Giants attack is going to be even less "balanced" than last year and McAdoo figures out how to run 20% more plays per game than last year, there are just not enough pass attempts to go around. Engram is not a TE, so assume all the TE catches from last year will still go to the TE position.
RE: I can't expect Engram to have a better rookie year than Shepard
Someone from last year is going to suffer fewer catches. Beckham, Shepard, everyone else?
Unless the Giants attack is going to be even less "balanced" than last year and McAdoo figures out how to run 20% more plays per game than last year, there are just not enough pass attempts to go around. Engram is not a TE, so assume all the TE catches from last year will still go to the TE position.
McAdoo would probably love to run 20% more plays/game as it means the offense is actually controlling the ball and staying on the field.
It's another Catch 22 (that doesn't mean a "catch by no. 22" for those to young to remember the book or movie).
The clock continues to run on pass completions and runs (except for running OB). You can get more plays by throwing more incomplete passes but you really can only get more plays if you speed up play calling but the Giants have chosen to line up quickly and give Eli plenty of time to make adjustments at the line.
Last year, Eli had 377 completions in 598 attempts. Receptions were Beckham (101), Shepard (65), all RBs (81, probably would have been more except Vereen got hurt early), all TEs (79 including when Tye played H-back). What is a reasonable distribution this year? Beckham (100), Marshall (70), Shepard (50), Traditional TEs (50), RBs (80). Assuming 400 completions for Eli in 600 attempts (67%), that still only leaves 50 catches for Engram. And I'm sure Marshall isn't going to be real happy about only 70 catches unless he is working only part time in preparation for retirement.
80 - 90 carries for 400 yards. Figure he's going to see quite limited action in the first four games or so before he earns trust in pass pro and picking up the offense, that leaves ~ 11 or 12 games for ~85 carries, 7-8 per game and 400? Unless our OL picks up ITS game, difficult to see that.
agree that it seems he's low-balling Engram; and I like his point about McAdoo being motivated to work EE into BM's offense, likely that SS sees fewer touches.
Would love it if Tomlinson and Moss displace Bromley/OO, had enough of the latter two's underwhelming play and injuries. Bisno, the underdog, rooting for him as the new DD
Someone from last year is going to suffer fewer catches. Beckham, Shepard, everyone else?
Unless the Giants attack is going to be even less "balanced" than last year and McAdoo figures out how to run 20% more plays per game than last year, there are just not enough pass attempts to go around. Engram is not a TE, so assume all the TE catches from last year will still go to the TE position.
But Engram is a TE. And he's going to get most of his snaps as The TE.
If that was his only contribution, then he would be a bust.
In this offense he should produce decent recievng numbers. His ultimate success may be better judged by the performance of the running game when is on or off the field. When they run the ball: 1) how many times is he on the field? How many times off? And what is their production in each of those cases?
RE: The individual stats for Engram don't mean that much to me.
The impact he'll have with or without the ball in his hands does. The opportunities he'll create for others does.
Exactly. When he is on the field, no "average" coverage linebacker is going to handle him beyond 5 yards. TE Engram has speed & quickness that will leave most linebackers flatfooted. He will single-handedly make the players around him better due to his skill set. He is also fairly NFL ready so I look for him to be out there game 1 and improving week in, week out.
I'm not going to predict numbers but I can see him busting a long one early in the year and NFL team defenses taking notice. That should help WR Marshall who should still be able to beat "1 on 1" coverages even at age 33.
I like his Moss prediction (becoming #3 DE by year end) too, though I think that's as much because of my disappointment in OO as my hope for Moss.
re: Bisnowaty - suprised there's no mention of him (hopefully) pushing Jerry at RG. Would love if he could beat out Jerry and Fluker could lock down the RT spot.
don't hold your breath on that one...
Oh man... That is the worst comp ever. Brutal, man. Don't ruin this pick for me...
That would be great but I think the chances of that are slim. That would allow the Giants to keep an extra DE, OL, LB, or S. I really hope that the Giants keep 9 offensive linemen as I do not want to expose Wheeler to waivers. I wouldn't be surprised to see Dunker stashed on IR if he suffers a minor injury during the end of the preseason.
Chicken vs egg scenario. IMO, early on it'll be Ds daring him (really anyone but Beckham) to beat them so he'll have plenty of opportunities to generate some impressive stats. If he takes advantage of those early opportunities and Ds adjust to try and limit him, then his stats may dip though his impact will remain high as you point out. But he's gotta prove he's (much) more of a threat than Tye was.
If I had a good paying job as a sports writer, I'd do the same thing even though I would have to pull predictions out of my ass. It puts food on the table and shoes on the kids to keep the job.
Unless the Giants attack is going to be even less "balanced" than last year and McAdoo figures out how to run 20% more plays per game than last year, there are just not enough pass attempts to go around. Engram is not a TE, so assume all the TE catches from last year will still go to the TE position.
Unless the Giants attack is going to be even less "balanced" than last year and McAdoo figures out how to run 20% more plays per game than last year, there are just not enough pass attempts to go around. Engram is not a TE, so assume all the TE catches from last year will still go to the TE position.
McAdoo would probably love to run 20% more plays/game as it means the offense is actually controlling the ball and staying on the field.
Jesus, anybody can make up meaningless, obvious crap like that.
The clock continues to run on pass completions and runs (except for running OB). You can get more plays by throwing more incomplete passes but you really can only get more plays if you speed up play calling but the Giants have chosen to line up quickly and give Eli plenty of time to make adjustments at the line.
Last year, Eli had 377 completions in 598 attempts. Receptions were Beckham (101), Shepard (65), all RBs (81, probably would have been more except Vereen got hurt early), all TEs (79 including when Tye played H-back). What is a reasonable distribution this year? Beckham (100), Marshall (70), Shepard (50), Traditional TEs (50), RBs (80). Assuming 400 completions for Eli in 600 attempts (67%), that still only leaves 50 catches for Engram. And I'm sure Marshall isn't going to be real happy about only 70 catches unless he is working only part time in preparation for retirement.
agree that it seems he's low-balling Engram; and I like his point about McAdoo being motivated to work EE into BM's offense, likely that SS sees fewer touches.
Would love it if Tomlinson and Moss displace Bromley/OO, had enough of the latter two's underwhelming play and injuries. Bisno, the underdog, rooting for him as the new DD
The QB? Lottery pick.
Yes.
Unless the Giants attack is going to be even less "balanced" than last year and McAdoo figures out how to run 20% more plays per game than last year, there are just not enough pass attempts to go around. Engram is not a TE, so assume all the TE catches from last year will still go to the TE position.
But Engram is a TE. And he's going to get most of his snaps as The TE.
In this offense he should produce decent recievng numbers. His ultimate success may be better judged by the performance of the running game when is on or off the field. When they run the ball: 1) how many times is he on the field? How many times off? And what is their production in each of those cases?
I'm not going to predict numbers but I can see him busting a long one early in the year and NFL team defenses taking notice. That should help WR Marshall who should still be able to beat "1 on 1" coverages even at age 33.