however, we'll see how he progresses. Sitting behind Eli for a few years won't hurt. He seems like he could mentally handle things, which for a QB is a chunk of the battle.
which is important. Really confident in himself, and not cocky about it. The fact that he's a football junkie and gym rat is a huge plus as well as his height and strong arm. He's not going to pull a Johnny Manziel and end up playing the bar scene and nightclubs. And he's not a timid type like so many end up being once they reach the NFL. Love his work ethic and devotion to the game.
How he carries himself. Confident and engaged but humble. I hope this guy can become something but he scored a 25 on the wonderlic which is an important test for qbs.
I was impressed that he said 'detail-oriented', not '-orientated'. Â
we should not have gone qb in this year's draft....
I wouldn't have (I would have added to the Secondary), but I can certainly understand why the Giants did.
As "QB-rich" as next year's draft is supposed to be, there's no guarantee that any of the top-tier prospects will be available to us (unless this season is a complete disaster), so the Giants got their "bird in the hand" this year, instead of hoping to find one in the bush next year.
And, who knows...maybe this kid will turn out to be the goods.
Rocket arm, mobility, and an excellent work ethic to take full advantage of the time spent behind Eli
all the physical attributes you want, time to develop, and an excellent work ethic? he really did wind up in an ideal situation ... and the giants paid a bargain price for a QB who may end up the best of this bunch.
hindsight is 20/20, but Webb in the 3rd followed by Bisnowaty/Wheeler/Dunker later makes me feel even better about this draft/offseason. those OL are on par with who the masses wanted the giants to reach for during the draft.
I'm not saying he will be Brady or Rodgers but the kid has "it".
If you asked me to describe what "it" is, I would say it is a combination of innate athletic ability, work ethic and attitude. Whether you want to call that attitude Confident, Cocky or Comfortable is up to you.
There have been hundreds of guys through the years that have one of those 3 traits that gets them onto an NFL roster for a brief period of time (Ryan Nassib).
There are others who have two traits and have long careers, either as short/medium term starters or backups (Jay Cutler and Josh McCown)
and then there are the guys who have all 3 (Rivers, Big Ben, Luck, Eli) who have long, productive and sometimes championship and hall of fame worthy careers.
Then there are the immortals, Brady, Montana, Unitas, Elway, Bradshaw, Peyton, etc.
to meet with Jim Zorn to pick his brain about the WCO. If he doesn't pan out, it certainly won't be due to not wanting it enough. Looks like he has the physical tools. I liked Nassib as a prospect, but Webb strikes me as having much more confidence and charisma right away.
we should not have gone qb in this year's draft....
I wouldn't have (I would have added to the Secondary), but I can certainly understand why the Giants did.
As "QB-rich" as next year's draft is supposed to be, there's no guarantee that any of the top-tier prospects will be available to us (unless this season is a complete disaster), so the Giants got their "bird in the hand" this year, instead of hoping to find one in the bush next year.
And, who knows...maybe this kid will turn out to be the goods.
Wholeheartedly agree! Good season = late pick = fewer choices.
Who knows when Eli's luck might run out? God forbid!
I like big, strong and, especially, smart.
I'm not saying he will be Brady or Rodgers but the kid has "it".
If you asked me to describe what "it" is, I would say it is a combination of innate athletic ability, work ethic and attitude. Whether you want to call that attitude Confident, Cocky or Comfortable is up to you.
There have been hundreds of guys through the years that have one of those 3 traits that gets them onto an NFL roster for a brief period of time (Ryan Nassib).
There are others who have two traits and have long careers, either as short/medium term starters or backups (Jay Cutler and Josh McCown)
and then there are the guys who have all 3 (Rivers, Big Ben, Luck, Eli) who have long, productive and sometimes championship and hall of fame worthy careers.
Then there are the immortals, Brady, Montana, Unitas, Elway, Bradshaw, Peyton, etc.
He'll need to fill out that 6'5" frame if he wants to survive the pounding an NFL QB takes. But WTH he has the time to prepare and mature both physically and mentally for a couple of seasons.
He'll need to fill out that 6'5" frame if he wants to survive the pounding an NFL QB takes. But WTH he has the time to prepare and mature both physically and mentally for a couple of seasons.
As I said in another thread, he's exactly one pound lighter than Peyton Manning - 6-5, 229, as opposed to 6-5, 230.
He'll need to fill out that 6'5" frame if he wants to survive the pounding an NFL QB takes. But WTH he has the time to prepare and mature both physically and mentally for a couple of seasons.
Yeah, and Eli is a stud? While Peyton is pretty solid, Eli is pretty thin.
May have scored our "Dak Prescott" here, who causes the scouts to go back and wonder how they missed.
This has been my point. There are 4, or maybe 5, QB's in the draft who seem close. Its impossible to know who will make it and who will bust until they get in the NFL, but I think 2 of them will be starters, 1-2 backups, and 1-2 will be out of the NFL. Who knows which one's now. So while teams traded away next years draft to move up and grab one, we got the same talent late in Rd 3. It was a steal.
Being mature, intelligent and articulate can translate to on-field presence and success.
Seriously, though... everything about Webb suggests that he'll be a good coach someday. Here's hoping he can play a little in the meantime.
I wouldn't have (I would have added to the Secondary), but I can certainly understand why the Giants did.
As "QB-rich" as next year's draft is supposed to be, there's no guarantee that any of the top-tier prospects will be available to us (unless this season is a complete disaster), so the Giants got their "bird in the hand" this year, instead of hoping to find one in the bush next year.
And, who knows...maybe this kid will turn out to be the goods.
all the physical attributes you want, time to develop, and an excellent work ethic? he really did wind up in an ideal situation ... and the giants paid a bargain price for a QB who may end up the best of this bunch.
hindsight is 20/20, but Webb in the 3rd followed by Bisnowaty/Wheeler/Dunker later makes me feel even better about this draft/offseason. those OL are on par with who the masses wanted the giants to reach for during the draft.
Gotta follow it up with the inevitable critique of what every sentence means which of course will dictate performance.
so is Aaron Rodgers ...
Davis Webb will be a star QB in the NFL.
I'm not saying he will be Brady or Rodgers but the kid has "it".
If you asked me to describe what "it" is, I would say it is a combination of innate athletic ability, work ethic and attitude. Whether you want to call that attitude Confident, Cocky or Comfortable is up to you.
There have been hundreds of guys through the years that have one of those 3 traits that gets them onto an NFL roster for a brief period of time (Ryan Nassib).
There are others who have two traits and have long careers, either as short/medium term starters or backups (Jay Cutler and Josh McCown)
and then there are the guys who have all 3 (Rivers, Big Ben, Luck, Eli) who have long, productive and sometimes championship and hall of fame worthy careers.
Then there are the immortals, Brady, Montana, Unitas, Elway, Bradshaw, Peyton, etc.
Davis Webb will be a star QB in the NFL.
If you're wrong, will you eat a bug?
I guess the "hes gonna need time" forced teams to look elsewhere for mediocre/quicker fixes
yup, time for another beer.
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we should not have gone qb in this year's draft....
I wouldn't have (I would have added to the Secondary), but I can certainly understand why the Giants did.
As "QB-rich" as next year's draft is supposed to be, there's no guarantee that any of the top-tier prospects will be available to us (unless this season is a complete disaster), so the Giants got their "bird in the hand" this year, instead of hoping to find one in the bush next year.
And, who knows...maybe this kid will turn out to be the goods.
Wholeheartedly agree! Good season = late pick = fewer choices.
Who knows when Eli's luck might run out? God forbid!
I like big, strong and, especially, smart.
Davis Webb will be a star QB in the NFL.
I'm not saying he will be Brady or Rodgers but the kid has "it".
If you asked me to describe what "it" is, I would say it is a combination of innate athletic ability, work ethic and attitude. Whether you want to call that attitude Confident, Cocky or Comfortable is up to you.
There have been hundreds of guys through the years that have one of those 3 traits that gets them onto an NFL roster for a brief period of time (Ryan Nassib).
There are others who have two traits and have long careers, either as short/medium term starters or backups (Jay Cutler and Josh McCown)
and then there are the guys who have all 3 (Rivers, Big Ben, Luck, Eli) who have long, productive and sometimes championship and hall of fame worthy careers.
Then there are the immortals, Brady, Montana, Unitas, Elway, Bradshaw, Peyton, etc.
I assume Marino comes under the "etc." category.
Most of the interview was him saying he doesn't know anything yet, has a ton to learn, and wants to focus on being a good team mate,
As I said in another thread, he's exactly one pound lighter than Peyton Manning - 6-5, 229, as opposed to 6-5, 230.
Yeah, and Eli is a stud? While Peyton is pretty solid, Eli is pretty thin.
May have scored our "Dak Prescott" here, who causes the scouts to go back and wonder how they missed.
May have scored our "Dak Prescott" here, who causes the scouts to go back and wonder how they missed.
This has been my point. There are 4, or maybe 5, QB's in the draft who seem close. Its impossible to know who will make it and who will bust until they get in the NFL, but I think 2 of them will be starters, 1-2 backups, and 1-2 will be out of the NFL. Who knows which one's now. So while teams traded away next years draft to move up and grab one, we got the same talent late in Rd 3. It was a steal.
Maybe he can matriculate the ball down the field, Hank Stramm style.