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Raanan: first impressions from Giants' draft class

Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/13/2017 2:24 pm
FYI...
Evan Engram's speed, body among first impressions from Giants' draft class - ( New Window )
Great  
AcidTest : 5/13/2017 2:39 pm : link
work Jordan. Thanks.
All sounds good  
lugnut : 5/13/2017 2:43 pm : link
We got a good crop of guys, it seems.

Engram, Gallman and Webb all look skinny to me too. If he's such a gym rat, you'd expect Webb to not be a beanpole, but I guess he just doesn't have the natural body for it.
RE: All sounds good  
Klaatu : 5/13/2017 2:51 pm : link
In comment 13470744 lugnut said:
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We got a good crop of guys, it seems.

Engram, Gallman and Webb all look skinny to me too. If he's such a gym rat, you'd expect Webb to not be a beanpole, but I guess he just doesn't have the natural body for it.


Webb is listed as 6-5, 229. By comparison, Peyton Manning was 6-5, 230.
RE: RE: All sounds good  
mrvax : 5/13/2017 3:31 pm : link
In comment 13470748 Klaatu said:
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Webb is listed as 6-5, 229. By comparison, Peyton Manning was 6-5, 230.


Yeah but Manning was a fivehead.
Webb does look skinny......  
Simms11 : 5/13/2017 3:35 pm : link
but so did a guy named Brady, when he came into the league. Give him time under our S&T coach and we should see physical improvement.
This doesn't sound right...  
Bill L : 5/13/2017 3:51 pm : link
Jordan should fix it..
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It’s hard to make snap judgments on anybody, nevertheless interior linemen who weren’t playing in full pads....
Or am I wrong?  
Bill L : 5/13/2017 3:52 pm : link
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I like the sound of everything, but just one thing...  
kinard : 5/13/2017 4:04 pm : link
... for an organization that has always prided itself in drafting high character guys, don't you think its kind of odd that the Giants didn't speak with Webb and Engram before the draft if they knew they were considering drafting them? I get that they can't talk with everyone and I'm sure they're good guys... but the first round pick and the quarterback, wouldn't you want to at least speak with those guys?

I've always liked Reese and the way the Giants draft guys but, I don't know, I just found that curious.



RE: Or am I wrong?  
81_Great_Dane : 5/13/2017 4:43 pm : link
In comment 13470774 Bill L said:
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He meant "never mind" but wrote "nevertheless." You're not wrong.
RE: I like the sound of everything, but just one thing...  
SoDev : 5/13/2017 4:59 pm : link
In comment 13470779 kinard said:
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... for an organization that has always prided itself in drafting high character guys, don't you think its kind of odd that the Giants didn't speak with Webb and Engram before the draft if they knew they were considering drafting them? I get that they can't talk with everyone and I'm sure they're good guys... but the first round pick and the quarterback, wouldn't you want to at least speak with those guys?

I've always liked Reese and the way the Giants draft guys but, I don't know, I just found that curious.




With the resources an NFL organization has, I would think they can learn more than enough about any player they want without talking to them. They may want to hide interest in certain players, too. I would think that the really good/smart and really bad/stupid kids are easy. It's the ones in the middle they they may want to talk to before they make a grade.
Engram used to have tats on his left arm.....  
MOOPS : 5/13/2017 5:01 pm : link
......they burned off during re-entry.
RE: I like the sound of everything, but just one thing...  
mfsd : 5/13/2017 6:24 pm : link
In comment 13470779 kinard said:
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... for an organization that has always prided itself in drafting high character guys, don't you think its kind of odd that the Giants didn't speak with Webb and Engram before the draft if they knew they were considering drafting them? I get that they can't talk with everyone and I'm sure they're good guys... but the first round pick and the quarterback, wouldn't you want to at least speak with those guys?

I've always liked Reese and the way the Giants draft guys but, I don't know, I just found that curious.




I suspect that's in part driven by the extra effort they made to hide who their targets were. Seems like they really liked Engram and Webb (Tomlinson too) all along and didn't want to telegraph it
point well taken  
Hot Rod in Florida : 5/13/2017 7:47 pm : link
You would certainly think taking a QB to replace Manning would at garner an interview to see how smart the guy is unless they had extremely trustworthy sources.
RE: I like the sound of everything, but just one thing...  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/13/2017 11:12 pm : link
In comment 13470779 kinard said:
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... for an organization that has always prided itself in drafting high character guys, don't you think its kind of odd that the Giants didn't speak with Webb and Engram before the draft if they knew they were considering drafting them? I get that they can't talk with everyone and I'm sure they're good guys... but the first round pick and the quarterback, wouldn't you want to at least speak with those guys?

I've always liked Reese and the way the Giants draft guys but, I don't know, I just found that curious.




They have drafted players before who've said they had no idea the Giants were even strongly considering them.

Sometimes they only interview the players they actually have questions or concerns about.
That is a far better first impression than in prior years  
Marty in Albany : 5/14/2017 8:12 am : link
when our first round draft pick visibly limped into camp, or was blind in one eye.
1995—Tyrone Wheatley, RB, Michigan
1996—Cedric Jones, DE, Oklahoma
So far, so good.
I'm always optimistic post-draft  
SGMen : 5/14/2017 9:01 am : link
I love our first round pick and the speed he brings to the middle of the field. Lets hope he develops quickly.

My concern is last year's #3 FS D. Thompson and whether he heals by the start of camp. We could use back-to-back solid drafts.
What a bunch of nothing  
Gman11 : 5/14/2017 8:21 pm : link
One guy likes meatloaf. Another has a firm handshake. Another has a pony tail (and he couldn't even get that part right). Sheesh. Wake me when there's some real information.
RE: What a bunch of nothing  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/14/2017 11:20 pm : link
In comment 13471463 Gman11 said:
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One guy likes meatloaf. Another has a firm handshake. Another has a pony tail (and he couldn't even get that part right). Sheesh. Wake me when there's some real information.


So come back in August. It's the offseason.
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