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Notre Dame in talks to be a full ACC member

BigBlueDownTheShore : 5/15/2017 8:15 pm
They would be the 15th full member and UCONN is rumored to be the 16th. Would be glad to see Notre Dame join a conference finally. I would rather see WVU join instead of UCONN since they have better bball and football or wild card Temple to gain some of that Jersey market back.

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Surprised that ND would finally cave  
mavric : 5/15/2017 8:57 pm : link
and join a conference in all sports including football. Bout time.

For a 16th team, I'd prefer Cincinnati over UConn. Both teams tried to become a member of the conference, but were shut down. Cincy has a lot bigger football program than UConn.

WVU got their wish when they joined the Big 12 and the way conferences structure their contracts, it is cost prohibitive to leave.
They would have to honor  
superspynyg : 5/15/2017 9:02 pm : link
Longtime rivalrys like USC and Stanford. And they would have to cave on ND's tv deal.
Uconn provides more, at least potentially, for the ACC than  
Mark C : 5/15/2017 9:28 pm : link
Cincinatti. New York market, and also a sorely needed regional rivalry with BC. And BC at this point has not delivered much to that conference, being that they SUCK and all...

Yes, I know, the Huskies have not improved as much as hoped at football, but they've put a ton of effort and dollars into improving that and all of their sports programs. Please let it happen! Get Uconn out of purgatory.
Temple gains back the NJ market?  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/15/2017 9:34 pm : link
Not the part that results in significant marketing revenue. UConn makes the most sense. WVU is an interesting suggestion, although I'm not sure why they would ditch the cozy yet lucrative confines of the Big 12 for the ACC.

If I was going to suggest a random option (without knowing the machinations of this), I would toss Rutgers out there. They're in over their head in the B1G, and at least the geographic footprint of the ACC makes sense for them.

The ACC is still a basketball conference first and foremost; UConn fits that more than any other program.
UConn needs to join a big conference desperately  
dpinzow : 5/15/2017 10:56 pm : link
their men's basketball program can't recruit the way it used to in the American conference. As for ND, I'm surprised they didn't go the B1G route (more money there than the ACC)
I stopped reading that article...  
BC Eagles94 : 5/15/2017 11:57 pm : link
when they said UConn would be leading candidate as #16. If ND joins ACC for football, ND will surely have a big say in #16. And doubt it would be UConn. And if the ACC had any interest in UConn they would have taken them years ago.
ACC already took a really bad academic school in Louisville  
Kevin in CT : 5/16/2017 12:26 am : link
There's no way they'd add WVU too.

With that said, UConn is going to be stuck in the AAC for awhile.
Not true Kevin  
uconngiant : 5/16/2017 1:22 am : link
If Notre Dame is the chose then UConn would lock up the east coast as Rutgers is doing very little in NYC for the Big Ten.

Still a ways to go for the Huskies as Notre Dame is still a wild card to say the least
For the love of god  
Vin R : 5/16/2017 5:12 am : link
Just get the hell out of the AAC
RE: Temple gains back the NJ market?  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 5/16/2017 6:30 am : link
In comment 13472348 Gatorade Dunk said:
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Not the part that results in significant marketing revenue. UConn makes the most sense. WVU is an interesting suggestion, although I'm not sure why they would ditch the cozy yet lucrative confines of the Big 12 for the ACC.

If I was going to suggest a random option (without knowing the machinations of this), I would toss Rutgers out there. They're in over their head in the B1G, and at least the geographic footprint of the ACC makes sense for them.

The ACC is still a basketball conference first and foremost; UConn fits that more than any other program.


Rutgers would owe millions of dollars to leave and join the ACC. The BIG didn't just go out and get Rutgers and the NY market just have them leave again. I suggest WVU because of A) there sports programs B) natuaral rivalries from the big east C) Big XII is the Conference that will eventually disappear and is the less lucrative conference.

However, Cinicinati as someone tossed out makes the most sense. Would give the ACC a team in the Ohio market which is something they don't touch. The ACC technically has the NY market with Syracuse. It just isn't in the city.
RE: Uconn provides more, at least potentially, for the ACC than  
viggie : 5/16/2017 7:22 am : link
In comment 13472345 Mark C said:
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Cincinatti. New York market, and also a sorely needed regional rivalry with BC. And BC at this point has not delivered much to that conference, being that they SUCK and all...

Yes, I know, the Huskies have not improved as much as hoped at football, but they've put a ton of effort and dollars into improving that and all of their sports programs. Please let it happen! Get Uconn out of purgatory.


my thoughts are Screw Uconn, it was their AD who started the lets crumble the big east. I bet Uconn and Cuse wish they were still in the BE for basketball.
ND TV Deal  
djstat : 5/16/2017 8:25 am : link
Is in Jeopardy which is why these talks are taking place.
Couple thoughts from a bc slant  
bhill410 : 5/16/2017 9:31 am : link
Bc while sucking ass athletically still is a very valuable commodity because of the tv revenue associated with Boston and shockingly bc games at times (no one goes live but people watch on tv).

As for Uconn there would have been no chance 3 years ago but the ad they indicially sued is retired and the bc president they also individually sued should be retiring within the year. That means that a lot of the internal voting forces are no longer there opposing UConn.
As a UConn fan, this is the dream.  
Heisenberg : 5/16/2017 9:36 am : link
I could give a shit about football now, but would pay attention if they were in a good conference - maybe we could beat Duke there, too. And that would be absolutely tremendous for basketball.
Just the thought of igniting the UConn - Cuse rivalary  
Vin R : 5/16/2017 9:38 am : link
Brings me happiness
I miss the old  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/16/2017 9:43 am : link
ACC with the round-robin basketball schedule.
BC  
MookGiants : 5/16/2017 9:43 am : link
is going to do everything they can to keep UConn out, and they likely will be successful.

Cincy is more likely, imo
RE: I miss the old  
Greg from LI : 5/16/2017 10:56 am : link
In comment 13472615 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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ACC with the round-robin basketball schedule.


Yup. It's not the same without the double round robin schedule. There were no arguments about favorable schedules then - everyone played everyone else twice. It was perfect.
RE: RE: Uconn provides more, at least potentially, for the ACC than  
Mark C : 5/16/2017 11:10 am : link
In comment 13472486 viggie said:
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In comment 13472345 Mark C said:


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Cincinatti. New York market, and also a sorely needed regional rivalry with BC. And BC at this point has not delivered much to that conference, being that they SUCK and all...

Yes, I know, the Huskies have not improved as much as hoped at football, but they've put a ton of effort and dollars into improving that and all of their sports programs. Please let it happen! Get Uconn out of purgatory.



my thoughts are Screw Uconn, it was their AD who started the lets crumble the big east. I bet Uconn and Cuse wish they were still in the BE for basketball.


You're kidding, right? BC was the first to jump ship, if memory serves.
Uconn started the destruction of the BE? Revisionist history much?
Your memory serves wrong Miami was the first to hop  
bhill410 : 5/16/2017 11:19 am : link
BC followed Miami (and syracuse tried to leave with them but got power played by Vtech/ Virginia Govenor).

The fact was that if you are a football first school the old big east just wasnt a good option. Blame leadership in Providence on that.
BC was really good football and  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 5/16/2017 12:19 pm : link
Basketball wise when the moved to the ACC. The football side of things has fallen to the wayside recently though.
Fuck the ACC....  
Crispino : 5/16/2017 12:29 pm : link
and the whole Tobacco Road cabal bullshit.

There. I feel better.
No buzz on this  
Metnut : 5/16/2017 1:09 pm : link
from the ND side from the people I've talked to, but who knows.

Most ND fans are already annoyed with having to play so many ACC games to begin with and the team is already locked in under the current arrangement so the bball team is safe. Only real benefit to ND from joining the conference full time would be access to the ACC title game, especially if it becomes an auto-bid to a 6 team playoff in the future.
RE: No buzz on this  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 5/16/2017 2:01 pm : link
In comment 13472904 Metnut said:
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from the ND side from the people I've talked to, but who knows.

Most ND fans are already annoyed with having to play so many ACC games to begin with and the team is already locked in under the current arrangement so the bball team is safe. Only real benefit to ND from joining the conference full time would be access to the ACC title game, especially if it becomes an auto-bid to a 6 team playoff in the future.


I think ND is kind of getting squeezed to do it. The playoff committee has put an emphasis on wining your conference to a certain degree. The Irish would have to be undefeated or have 1 close loss to a great team to get in at this point. That and as someone mentioned their TV deal is in jeopardy.
As an ACC fan  
DAGlazer : 5/16/2017 2:39 pm : link
The ACC already has a very good deal with ND. ND has to play a certain number of ACC games a year in football and it has become a very good basketball program under Brey. Ironically, ND probably needs the ACC more than the ACC needs ND inside the conference full time because of the playoff system.

However, if ND is going to join full time, then adding UConn makes the makes sense. It is already a good basketball school and has been able to produce competitive football teams. It fills a geographic gap between BC and Syracuse. Creating a 16 team league would enable to 8 team divisions which would allow for more creative scheduling of a North vs. South style divisions.

With Clemson, FSU, Miami and ND, the ACC would have four powerhouse football schools who have won national titles.

UConn can certainly had its own in basketball and its recruiting would probably improve in the ACC.
FWIW, ND's athletic director denies that any talks have taken place  
Mad Mike : 5/16/2017 3:31 pm : link
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Assume that UConn is Needed  
Jeffrey : 5/16/2017 6:14 pm : link
to help the ACC firm up its presence in the Northeast. BC has been a disaster and though Syracuse has good fan support, it is still too far from NYC to help with a foothold there. Personally, I think it is a big mistake for ND as they are so much better a fit in the Big Ten. However, money talks and ultimately it has to be about the money.
ND would only joined  
LauderdaleMatty : 5/16/2017 8:27 pm : link
If they are going to sign up for a conference they'd be smarter to take theB1Gs cash. But then they'd be in a much tougher football conference and would have to give up some of those rivalries.
RE: ND would only joined  
LauderdaleMatty : 5/16/2017 8:29 pm : link
In comment 13473344 LauderdaleMatty said:
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If they are going to sign up for a conference they'd be smarter to take theB1Gs cash. But then they'd be in a much tougher football conference and would have to give up some of those rivalries.


Trying to say they will only join a conference if forced to. ACC payout isn't close to what the B1G gives and the D be a full member right away with their clout
ND  
MookGiants : 5/16/2017 8:34 pm : link
has zero interest in the big 10. They don't want to basically play all of their games in the midwest.
RE: I stopped reading that article...  
Moose and Fury : 5/17/2017 4:52 pm : link
In comment 13472426 BC Eagles94 said:
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when they said UConn would be leading candidate as #16. If ND joins ACC for football, ND will surely have a big say in #16. And doubt it would be UConn. And if the ACC had any interest in UConn they would have taken them years ago.


Alright man, you "stopped reading" when they mentioned UConn? Cool. BC is a laughing stock in both football and basketball right now so I'm not sure you should talk.

And OP...West Virginia is only better at bball than UConn right now BECAUSE of the conference affiliation. UConn is head and shoulders above West Virginia from a basketball marketability standpoint, and if they got in the ACC they would be right back to Big East UConn status (oh ya know the team that won 4 Natty's between 99 and '14).
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