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Darkwa - Fractured Tibia Last 2 Seasons (NJ.com)

Anando : 5/16/2017 4:52 pm
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Finally healthy, Giants' RB Orleans Darkwa says 'the best is yet to come'

Darkwa said he played with the injury, which he initially thought was shin splints, for the entire 2015 season. He appeared in all 16 games and had 36 carries for 153 yards and one touchdown in 2015, including a breakout 8-carry, 48-yard, 1-TD performance in a win over the Cowboys in Week 7.

With the injury slow to heal, Darkwa was held out of Organized Team Activities (OTAs) and minicamp last offseason. Darkwa resumed his role as a backup running back and core special teamer last season. While the injury lingered, he had 22 carries for 101 yards and two touchdowns in Weeks 3-4 while filling in for injured starter Rashad Jennings.

Darkwa's confidence stems from the fact that he's finally healthy.

"People haven't really been able to see me at my best," Darkwa said. "I'm blessed to be in this situation right now after dealing with what I've dealt with for so long. To finally get the situation resolved and get back out on the field, I'm pretty excited about it. I'm champing at the bit. I think the best is yet to come."

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He's had injury issues dating back to college.  
Brown Recluse : 5/16/2017 4:57 pm : link
I like the way he runs and I wish him the best of luck in camp this summer...but he's on the outside looking in right now.
Would be nice, 3 good running backs  
JimNY56 : 5/16/2017 4:57 pm : link
Hope the OL can open some holes.
Plus the draft pick, makes 4  
JimNY56 : 5/16/2017 4:58 pm : link
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What else is he going to say ....?  
short lease : 5/16/2017 5:17 pm : link
I'm done?
I think he's a powerful runner who can also catch well.  
yatqb : 5/16/2017 5:35 pm : link
I hope that he's the short yardage back this year.
I think it's gonna have to come  
santacruzom : 5/16/2017 5:35 pm : link
on another team. At this point I think nothing short of being possessed by the spirit of Walter Payton will make the coaching staff give Darkwa a shot.
RE: I think it's gonna have to come  
arcarsenal : 5/16/2017 5:40 pm : link
In comment 13473240 santacruzom said:
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on another team. At this point I think nothing short of being possessed by the spirit of Walter Payton will make the coaching staff give Darkwa a shot.


He's been given a shot here - the Giants staff hasn't totally buried him. He just keeps getting banged up/hurt and he's a sub-4.0 YPC player in his short career.

I'd love to see him play well here but there's this weird mystique around this guy like he's some sort of really good RB that the Giants just won't let see the field.
I think he is still in the mix. It is him or Draugn. Draugn  
Ivan15 : 5/16/2017 5:45 pm : link
Miss games.
I think he is still in the mix. It is him or Draughn.  
Ivan15 : 5/16/2017 5:46 pm : link
Darkwa has a higher ceiling but Draughn doesn't miss games.
RE: RE: I think it's gonna have to come  
Geomon : 5/16/2017 5:55 pm : link
In comment 13473241 arcarsenal said:
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He's been given a shot here - the Giants staff hasn't totally buried him. He just keeps getting banged up/hurt and he's a sub-4.0 YPC player in his short career.

I'd love to see him play well here but there's this weird mystique around this guy like he's some sort of really good RB that the Giants just won't let see the field.

It's because he's had some beautiful flashes of brilliance:




We would like to see more of that.
i'm a Darkwa fan. if healthy he sticks  
gtt350 : 5/16/2017 6:03 pm : link
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He always seemed to look good for one series,  
Doomster : 5/16/2017 6:08 pm : link
and then he would disappear....
RE: i'm a Darkwa fan. if healthy he sticks  
SGMen : 5/16/2017 6:24 pm : link
In comment 13473254 gtt350 said:
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He can play specials and if healthy he can run. He knows the offense which is a plus as well.

I wouldn't mind a young set of running backs for this year and beyond: RB Perkins, Vereen, Dwarka and Gellman. I can see a young guy like Gellman making it this year over veterans. If healthy, Dwarka does in fact stick. Watch.
I'm no doctor . . . .  
TC : 5/16/2017 6:36 pm : link
but I've had a broken arm. What kind of fracture requires two years to heal?

I like some of what I've seen of Darkwa, but he doesn't seem able to stay on the field, even before in came to the Giants.
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Danny Kanell : 5/16/2017 6:53 pm : link
I've always like his style of running. I think he can be a good back with health and the right opportunity.
Ehh, no thanks  
Jimmy Googs : 5/16/2017 7:05 pm : link
unless he is exponentially better than the other backup RBs at specials.
RE: RE: RE: I think it's gonna have to come  
arcarsenal : 5/16/2017 7:09 pm : link
In comment 13473248 Geomon said:
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In comment 13473241 arcarsenal said:

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He's been given a shot here - the Giants staff hasn't totally buried him. He just keeps getting banged up/hurt and he's a sub-4.0 YPC player in his short career.

I'd love to see him play well here but there's this weird mystique around this guy like he's some sort of really good RB that the Giants just won't let see the field.


It's because he's had some beautiful flashes of brilliance:




We would like to see more of that.


Andre Williams had a couple impressive runs, too.

Darkwa is a solid depth RB if he's healthy - I'm pulling for him. But the lore around this guy is starting to venture into Jonas Seawright territory. (I'm exaggerating, obviously.. but still)
There's no way to judge any of these RBs behind the lines they  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/16/2017 7:13 pm : link
had to play with.

Except for Andre Williams, who was so bad the team saw it even with the O-line making everyone look bad.
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arcarsenal : 5/16/2017 7:16 pm : link
I don't know if that's true, TTH.

I think It was pretty easy to tell that Perkins had talent and Jennings was shot last season despite the OL.

In fact, I think Jennings actually made the OL look worse than it actually was on a handful of occasions.
Agree about jennings.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/16/2017 7:21 pm : link
Good guy, but done.
Andre Williams  
Jimmy Googs : 5/16/2017 7:24 pm : link
Couldn't catch a cold and turned his back into LOS when a tackler would meet him in hole.

Not a good player...
Really excited to see what a healthy Darkwa  
Beezer : 5/16/2017 7:35 pm : link
can do.
RE: Agree about jennings.  
SGMen : 5/16/2017 8:10 pm : link
In comment 13473306 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Good guy, but done.
It wasn't hard to see that RB Jenning was a shell of his former self and done last year. We stuck with him due to our lack of options.

With two key skill position players done: Jennings & Cruz; and, with our losing our only bona-fide blocker in FB W. Johnson to the burner, we simply couldn't compete last year against better defenses. We needed Johnson to lead block and take the edge for our poor OT's. Tye & Donnell sucked at blocking.

As I noted above, a healthy Dwarka can make this team. Depends upon how much the Giants like the rookie Gellman.
I don't believe they cut a 4th Round pick in Gallman in his  
fredgbrown : 5/16/2017 8:41 pm : link
first season unless he completely stinks.
RE: I don't believe they cut a 4th Round pick in Gallman in his  
SGMen : 5/16/2017 8:47 pm : link
In comment 13473359 fredgbrown said:
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first season unless he completely stinks.
I totally agree, no way he gets cut his rookie year.

I think the depth chart goes Perkins, Vereen, Dwarka and Gellman with the veteran Draughn looking on the outside in. One thing that would NOT completely shock me is if Vereen were cut in camp and Draughn kept due to $$$ and injury issues. But that is like a less than 5% chance I think.

Bottom line: we have some nice competition at RB this year.
RE: He always seemed to look good for one series,  
McNally's_Nuts : 5/16/2017 9:01 pm : link
In comment 13473259 Doomster said:
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and then he would disappear....


He'd disappear because all he ever got was one series lol
RE: RE: I don't believe they cut a 4th Round pick in Gallman in his  
Milton : 5/16/2017 9:13 pm : link
In comment 13473365 SGMen said:
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I think the depth chart goes Perkins, Vereen, Dwarka and Gellman with the veteran Draughn looking on the outside in.
It's Gallman. You're probably confusing him with the Noble Prize-winning theoretical physicist, Murray Gell-Mann...
It's an easy mistake to make.... - ( New Window )
Btw....  
Milton : 5/16/2017 9:15 pm : link
I'm a Darkwa fan. I was disappointed with his production last year, but if it was due to an injury that has now been corrected, that's encouraging for 2017.
Darkwa was a good ST defender when active.  
yatqb : 5/16/2017 9:22 pm : link
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I am very intrigued by Khalid Abdullah  
Jay on the Island : 5/16/2017 9:54 pm : link
He will likely start out on the PS but this kid has potential.
Medical question: Broken legs and shin splints have same symptoms?  
Marty in Albany : 5/16/2017 10:03 pm : link
Darkwa must be indifferent to pain on a heroic scale.
LOL  
lugnut : 5/16/2017 10:08 pm : link
"a breakout 8-carry, 48-yard, 1-TD performance."

My, how the bar is set low for NYG RBs.
dont feel so bad for R jennings  
viggie : 5/16/2017 10:43 pm : link
TWTS got him some of this
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santacruzom : 5/16/2017 10:47 pm : link
In comment 13473241 arcarsenal said:
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on another team. At this point I think nothing short of being possessed by the spirit of Walter Payton will make the coaching staff give Darkwa a shot.



He's been given a shot here - the Giants staff hasn't totally buried him. He just keeps getting banged up/hurt and he's a sub-4.0 YPC player in his short career.

I'd love to see him play well here but there's this weird mystique around this guy like he's some sort of really good RB that the Giants just won't let see the field.


I don't know if he's really good, but I am pretty confident that shifting 5 or so carries from Jennings to Darkwa would have been nice.
I hope Darkwa beats Draughn out for the fourth spot  
adamg : 5/16/2017 11:03 pm : link
He's good on specials and he does flash at times running the ball. I'd give him one more shot as a change of pace guy, but if he can't handle the load again, I wouldn't bring him back.

The problem with Darkwa, imo, is that he's fragile. He runs hard and looks really good, and then he's banged up and out for the rest of the game. He's never put together a season as a rusher. Maybe if he added weight he could be our bruiser.

He's good on specials though. Draughn seems to be as well. I wouldn't be surprised if they carry five RBs again. I hope Abdullah makes the PS. My sister was a Duke, so she'd like that.
the guy who compared Williams to Darkwa  
grizz299 : 5/17/2017 7:20 am : link
should take up badminton, 'cause he knows nothing about football. Williams had no vision, no instincts, co cutting ability....Darkwa has all of that in abundance.
And the comment that Williams had good highlights too...no he didn't, nothing like those two runs we saw here.
Ballplayers mature, their bones set, or maybe luck reverses. I think the ceiling is so high for this kid that he has to be given every chance. I think his potential is that high.
two thoughts  
fkap : 5/17/2017 8:40 am : link
as TC said, what kind of fracture takes two years to heal?

on professional teams, these kind of injuries do not, or should not, go misdiagnosed. my leg hurts. go see the team doc, who'll do a xray. hey, look, you have a fracture. Hard to believe you can miss a fracture that takes two years to heal.

I like Darkwa as do many...  
Johnny5 : 5/17/2017 9:21 am : link
... but I think we are all in agreement that he hasn't been able to stay healthy, and that likely will be why he is cut this year. That said I hope he is healthy, we need some good competition at RB this summer. May the best grouping of RBs stick.
what's he got, ricketts?  
Victor in CT : 5/17/2017 9:48 am : link
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RE: the guy who compared Williams to Darkwa  
arcarsenal : 5/17/2017 10:09 am : link
In comment 13473708 grizz299 said:
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should take up badminton, 'cause he knows nothing about football. Williams had no vision, no instincts, co cutting ability....Darkwa has all of that in abundance.
And the comment that Williams had good highlights too...no he didn't, nothing like those two runs we saw here.
Ballplayers mature, their bones set, or maybe luck reverses. I think the ceiling is so high for this kid that he has to be given every chance. I think his potential is that high.


Yes, he did - and they're pretty easy to find.

You can find a couple of good clips for most RB's in this league whether it be at the college level or in the pros.

It took me 2 seconds to find a couple of gifs that make Andre Williams look like a capable NFL back.





You're completely overrating Orleans Darkwa. The way you talk about him, you'd think the guy was David Johnson or Lev Bell. But I'm the one who doesn't know anything about football.. LOL.
Arc  
Johnny5 : 5/17/2017 10:16 am : link
I agree that he's not the second coming of Eric Dickerson but I know you agree he is better than Andre Williams... lol. In my view he is definitely someone beneficial to have on the roster when needed to fill in as long as he stays healthy. He is a role player.
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arcarsenal : 5/17/2017 10:29 am : link
My point was never that Andre Williams was a better RB than Darkwa - my point is that highlights can be misleading.

When people start saying things like "the sky is the limit" for Orleans fucking Darkwa, it gets hard to take seriously.

I like the guy as a depth RB, but come on. People act like the Giants have a Todd Gurley clone on the roster and are just choosing not to play him.
I would say the RB position should be very interesting to watch  
Rudy5757 : 5/17/2017 10:42 am : link
Perkins is the only lock to make the team. Gallman is close to a lock so there may only be 1 spot left. The likely 3rd QB spot will leave the team with tough questions. They may go light on RB this year. TE is another spot there will be tough questions that could affect the RB spot.

I wouldn't rule out a battle between Vareen, Darkwa and Draughn for the 3rd spot. If Gallman can block on the pass and catch like we have been told he could push Vareen off the roster. In the 5 games he played in last year he wasn't that good. He was healthy in 2016 and I expected more than what we got out of him. I was excited about the signing but I haven't seen enough impact.
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arcarsenal : 5/17/2017 10:43 am : link
Vereen was not healthy in 2016. That was the entire problem.
I hear ya Arc  
Johnny5 : 5/17/2017 10:50 am : link
I am guessing we keep 4: Perkins, Gallman, Vereen, Darkwa.
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Rudy5757 : 5/17/2017 12:08 pm : link
In comment 13473908 arcarsenal said:
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Vereen was not healthy in 2016. That was the entire problem.


I don't think he is a lock for a roster spot. I think the Giants will go light at RB because they want a FB or another TE on the roster and the situation at QB. If they go with 3 RBs he is on the bubble imo.
I'd go with three RBs and one FB.  
Klaatu : 5/17/2017 12:39 pm : link
Perkins, Gallman, Vereen, and Shane Smith. I'd also keep a kid like Abdullah on the PS. I've had it with oft-injured players like Darkwa. Goodbye and good luck.
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