That 298 is what he weighed at the combine. I'd imagine he's added weight even if the football card doesn't list it.
I'm going by the weight listed. I, of course, have no way of knowing his exact weight but one thing is clear: he doesn't look that big to me AND it has been noted that he can get pushed around by big DT's.
RE: RE: SG - how do you know Richburg hasn't added weight? Â
That 298 is what he weighed at the combine. I'd imagine he's added weight even if the football card doesn't list it.
I'm going by the weight listed. I, of course, have no way of knowing his exact weight but one thing is clear: he doesn't look that big to me AND it has been noted that he can get pushed around by big DT's.
I agree he's not a big looking OL, just didn't know if I wasn't looking in the right spots for the weights and heights. Looking around, it seems like the combine is the only place you can get a real number from. You'd think the league would have some established source everyone could reference and that was up to date.
RE: RE: RE: SG - how do you know Richburg hasn't added weight? Â
That 298 is what he weighed at the combine. I'd imagine he's added weight even if the football card doesn't list it.
I'm going by the weight listed. I, of course, have no way of knowing his exact weight but one thing is clear: he doesn't look that big to me AND it has been noted that he can get pushed around by big DT's.
I agree he's not a big looking OL, just didn't know if I wasn't looking in the right spots for the weights and heights. Looking around, it seems like the combine is the only place you can get a real number from. You'd think the league would have some established source everyone could reference and that was up to date.
Sometimes, in the early camp reports, they will note that a guy "looks bigger" or added size. For example, the recent mini-camp revealed that both Hart & Flowers seem to have worked out hard this off-season and slimmed down so they are quicker out of their stances and such.
I know Pugh added size last off-season and that makes sense for an OG.
I have a good feeling that Pugh, Richburg and Flowers (yup) will have good seasons. Jerry will be Jerry unless Fluker somehow beats him out and upgrades the position. And Hart, well, the book is out on him still..he gave up 46 pressures and didn't even start every game! Scary bad...so lets hope he gets to "acceptable" level as that would be a big upgrade.
LT Flower LG Fluker OC Richburg RG Jerry RT Petitgout
My logic being Petitgout is a fairly solid RT and upgrade over Hart. Fluker can likely handle starting LG duties. I've been pondering this lineup since yesterday, thinking "why not?" given our struggles on the outside?
Well, given the competition he's facing, it's certainly not out of the question. Hart appears to be an average, at best, RT who you'd prefer to have in a swing reserve role (RT. RG). He's not an ideal starter.
Fluker flunked in San Diego and is now a reclamation project. He may turn out to be no better than Hart. I think his best chance might be at RG where his power run blocking would best be utilized.
So RT looks to be an open competition. Bisnowaty was rated by most scouting services as a 4th-5th round prospect. So the Giants appear to have gotten very good value in the 6th. The only thing he lacks in terms of winning the RT job is NFL game experience.
I think either Hart or Fluker will open the season at RT but the Giants will bring Bisnowaty along quickly in case neither of them turns out to be the answer. If he develops, I could see him possibly starting later in the year. He could use another 10-15 lbs on the right side but it's always nice when you can move a college LT to the right side because you know there is pretty good athleticism there.
Heck, if Flowers doesn't improve and Wheeler is healthy and has his head on straight, he could end up the season at LT. Granted it's a long shot but it is possible you could have 2 rookie tackles by the end of the year.
Well, given the competition he's facing, it's certainly not out of the question. Hart appears to be an average, at best, RT who you'd prefer to have in a swing reserve role (RT. RG). He's not an ideal starter.
Fluker flunked in San Diego and is now a reclamation project. He may turn out to be no better than Hart. I think his best chance might be at RG where his power run blocking would best be utilized.
So RT looks to be an open competition. Bisnowaty was rated by most scouting services as a 4th-5th round prospect. So the Giants appear to have gotten very good value in the 6th. The only thing he lacks in terms of winning the RT job is NFL game experience.
I think either Hart or Fluker will open the season at RT but the Giants will bring Bisnowaty along quickly in case neither of them turns out to be the answer. If he develops, I could see him possibly starting later in the year. He could use another 10-15 lbs on the right side but it's always nice when you can move a college LT to the right side because you know there is pretty good athleticism there.
Heck, if Flowers doesn't improve and Wheeler is healthy and has his head on straight, he could end up the season at LT. Granted it's a long shot but it is possible you could have 2 rookie tackles by the end of the year.
They say Bisnotway isn't athletic enough to handle speed as a LT but I think they said the same of David Diehl. As for Wheeler, he will need a year to develop though I do believe he'll make the active roster. I think we got two decent prospects in the 6th round and UDFA which is always nice. If even one of the two becomes a starter in the future we did really well this year.
The PFF post that prompted me to start this thread: Â
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That 298 is what he weighed at the combine. I'd imagine he's added weight even if the football card doesn't list it.
I'm going by the weight listed. I, of course, have no way of knowing his exact weight but one thing is clear: he doesn't look that big to me AND it has been noted that he can get pushed around by big DT's.
I agree he's not a big looking OL, just didn't know if I wasn't looking in the right spots for the weights and heights. Looking around, it seems like the combine is the only place you can get a real number from. You'd think the league would have some established source everyone could reference and that was up to date.
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That 298 is what he weighed at the combine. I'd imagine he's added weight even if the football card doesn't list it.
I'm going by the weight listed. I, of course, have no way of knowing his exact weight but one thing is clear: he doesn't look that big to me AND it has been noted that he can get pushed around by big DT's.
I agree he's not a big looking OL, just didn't know if I wasn't looking in the right spots for the weights and heights. Looking around, it seems like the combine is the only place you can get a real number from. You'd think the league would have some established source everyone could reference and that was up to date.
I know Pugh added size last off-season and that makes sense for an OG.
I have a good feeling that Pugh, Richburg and Flowers (yup) will have good seasons. Jerry will be Jerry unless Fluker somehow beats him out and upgrades the position. And Hart, well, the book is out on him still..he gave up 46 pressures and didn't even start every game! Scary bad...so lets hope he gets to "acceptable" level as that would be a big upgrade.
My logic being Petitgout is a fairly solid RT and upgrade over Hart. Fluker can likely handle starting LG duties. I've been pondering this lineup since yesterday, thinking "why not?" given our struggles on the outside?
Flowers, Fluker, Richburg, Jerry and Pugh.
Fluker flunked in San Diego and is now a reclamation project. He may turn out to be no better than Hart. I think his best chance might be at RG where his power run blocking would best be utilized.
So RT looks to be an open competition. Bisnowaty was rated by most scouting services as a 4th-5th round prospect. So the Giants appear to have gotten very good value in the 6th. The only thing he lacks in terms of winning the RT job is NFL game experience.
I think either Hart or Fluker will open the season at RT but the Giants will bring Bisnowaty along quickly in case neither of them turns out to be the answer. If he develops, I could see him possibly starting later in the year. He could use another 10-15 lbs on the right side but it's always nice when you can move a college LT to the right side because you know there is pretty good athleticism there.
Heck, if Flowers doesn't improve and Wheeler is healthy and has his head on straight, he could end up the season at LT. Granted it's a long shot but it is possible you could have 2 rookie tackles by the end of the year.
Fluker flunked in San Diego and is now a reclamation project. He may turn out to be no better than Hart. I think his best chance might be at RG where his power run blocking would best be utilized.
So RT looks to be an open competition. Bisnowaty was rated by most scouting services as a 4th-5th round prospect. So the Giants appear to have gotten very good value in the 6th. The only thing he lacks in terms of winning the RT job is NFL game experience.
I think either Hart or Fluker will open the season at RT but the Giants will bring Bisnowaty along quickly in case neither of them turns out to be the answer. If he develops, I could see him possibly starting later in the year. He could use another 10-15 lbs on the right side but it's always nice when you can move a college LT to the right side because you know there is pretty good athleticism there.
Heck, if Flowers doesn't improve and Wheeler is healthy and has his head on straight, he could end up the season at LT. Granted it's a long shot but it is possible you could have 2 rookie tackles by the end of the year.
*Bisnowaty was the 12th-ranked tackle in PFF’s Draft Pass, ranking 21st in the class in pass-blocking efficiency with a score of 97.3.
*He allowed just one sack and 13 total pressures across 376 pass-blocking snaps last season.
*Giants RT Bobby Hart allowed 46 total pressures last season, and saw his year punctuated by a few disastrous outings.