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NFT: LaVar Ball wants $3B for shoe deal

AnishPatel : 5/17/2017 7:02 pm
Is this guy off his rocker?! No company will pay 3 billion dollars for his damn brand! The initial asking price to make a deal with he first pitched his idea to the companies was 1 billion dollars!
LaVar Ball wants $3B for shoe deal, sees no need to market to women - ( New Window )
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I understand that Adam, I agree that labels  
David in LA : 5/17/2017 8:29 pm : link
shouldn't be tossed around so casually, but what he did was treat her like she's subhuman. Misguided notions of gender roles kind of goes hand in hand with sexism, no?
RE: I understand that Adam, I agree that labels  
adamg : 5/17/2017 8:33 pm : link
In comment 13474506 David in LA said:
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shouldn't be tossed around so casually, but what he did was treat her like she's subhuman. Misguided notions of gender roles kind of goes hand in hand with sexism, no?


Yes. But, I don't think that was an instance of that. He was dismissive due to prior events (her calling him a bad parent and making jokes about how his family must live in fear of him), not due to the fact that she was a woman or that she has no place in a conversation about sports because of her gender.

I'm only talking about that singular exchange as it being used as evidence of sexism, not of the claim itself.
I really think the Lakers should stay away  
Kyle in NY : 5/17/2017 8:44 pm : link
There are enough weaknesses in his game to make him not a sure thing, then add the Dad to the mix and it's a headache for management and the coaching staff. Plus guys are going to go after him constantly, trying to show him up. And his defense isn't exactly his forte in the first place.

Just seems like a mess that they should avoid. And there are other guys worthy of that pick. It's a deep draft.
Lavar is an idiot.  
Giant John : 5/17/2017 9:33 pm : link
He needs to crawl under a rock and stay there. I blame the press in this country for allowing such jerks to have a voice. The only way he should think about getting a pair of sneakers is to buy them in a store.
I'll take the contrarian stance on this  
tbonfig : 5/17/2017 9:45 pm : link
while caveating that I think the father is over the top, I love the concept of them coming out with their own brand and finding a way to profit off of their own brand instead of letting a corporation make money off of them (same way NCAA pimps out athletes in all sports).

If they can make money doing it, why not. Asking $3B is not a serious request, it is a statement against the concept of letting a multibillion dollar corporation make tens of millions (or more) while the one actually doing the work to earn that reputation makes far less.

Those who listen to Dan Le Batard have heard his stance on this and I happen to agree.

I also think this guy is hilarious.
Hypothetical Trade  
JohnF : 5/17/2017 9:48 pm : link
Melo and Knicks #8 to Celtics for the #1. Knicks then draft Ball #1.

While what's left of the Knicks fans heads explode, you hear muttering from the secret lair under MSG:



Come to ME, Lavar! Let us make beautiful douchebaggery together!
Didn"t Marbury have his own sneaker that sold for 20$  
xman : 5/17/2017 10:16 pm : link
and even some of that money went to charities?
RE: Didn  
tbonfig : 5/17/2017 10:22 pm : link
In comment 13474635 xman said:
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and even some of that money went to charities?


Starbury's - loved those shoes
Lavar Ball  
LCtheINTMachine : 5/17/2017 10:24 pm : link
is one of the best things to happen to sports media.

ESPN, Colin Cowheard, Fox, Screamin A Smith and all the blithering idiot bloggers can't get enough of him. He's more famous than more than half the NBA.
RE: Didn  
DennyInDenville : 5/17/2017 10:26 pm : link
In comment 13474635 xman said:
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and even some of that money went to charities?

Marbury is an underrated human and player
The asshole accomplished what he wanted  
montanagiant : 5/17/2017 10:31 pm : link
A ton of publicity over his idiocy. I can't stand this dickhead
LaVar Ball is getting exactly what he wants  
SimpleMan : 5/17/2017 10:49 pm : link
which is for everyone to talk about him and his brand. In the same vein as half the numbnuts on TV, he is just saying whatever ridiculous shit he can and watching everyone overreact to it and talk about him more. I am surprised ESPN hasn't given him a show yet so everyone can talk about him some more.
RE: LaVar Ball is getting exactly what he wants  
tbonfig : 5/17/2017 11:03 pm : link
In comment 13474686 SimpleMan said:
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which is for everyone to talk about him and his brand. In the same vein as half the numbnuts on TV, he is just saying whatever ridiculous shit he can and watching everyone overreact to it and talk about him more. I am surprised ESPN hasn't given him a show yet so everyone can talk about him some more.


On the Dan Le Batard show they had a business media person on saying in the 24 hours of him announcing the shoe deal for $500, all of the sports shows talking about him, and every other media outlet, gave them $50M in free advertising!

Genius
Haha  
KWALL2 : 5/18/2017 1:58 am : link
People may be talking about the asshole but nobody is buying. And they won't buy because some slob is running around like a fool.

The shit isn't working. Nobody will buy the shoes unless the kid hits the league like Lebron. And that won't happen.

He'll be gone soon.
Lavar Ball isn't a genius  
giantsfan44ab : 5/18/2017 7:30 am : link
it's opportunity cost. Yes he's getting free advertising but at the end of his day his kids will get a fraction of what they will get from a major shoe brand.
RE: Haha  
SimpleMan : 5/18/2017 8:55 am : link
In comment 13474770 KWALL2 said:
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People may be talking about the asshole but nobody is buying. And they won't buy because some slob is running around like a fool.

The shit isn't working. Nobody will buy the shoes unless the kid hits the league like Lebron. And that won't happen.

He'll be gone soon.


I agree that it is not a great business strategy. I doubt he sells many shoes too. But he is an overbearing attention whore soccer mom, and he is certainly getting the spotlight on himself with all his nonsense.
LaVar is an idiot,  
Section331 : 5/18/2017 9:20 am : link
and if I'm the Lakers, I'd have significant reservations about taking Lonzo. His father is an albatross, but I have some serious reservations about his game. He is an other-worldly passer with great vision, but how is he going to create his own shot in the NBA? And I know it is only one game, but his no-show v. Fox and Kentucky was very concerning. It wasn't simply that he played poorly, but halfway through the first half, he was passing the ball off as soon as he crossed halfcourt. It was like he wanted nothing to do with Fox.

That, and the fact that he was so casual and declaring for the NBA draft only minutes after what should have been a devastating NCAA loss. Look at how Fox was after Kentucky lost to UNC, he was inconsolable. Not saying that Lonzo had to be that upset, but a little disappointment would have been nice.
RE: Hypothetical Trade  
GuzzaBlue : 5/18/2017 11:43 am : link
In comment 13474585 JohnF said:
[quote] Melo and Knicks #8 to Celtics for the #1. Knicks then draft Ball #1.

While what's left of the Knicks fans heads explode, you hear muttering from the secret lair under MSG:

At first Boston no way takes that trade and most likely wouldn't. But, just but, is Melo + Monk that much worse than Fultz? Considering their position to get past Cleveland? Not the craziest of ideas. Knicks would need to give up more though.
RE: Hypothetical Trade  
giants#1 : 5/18/2017 12:32 pm : link
In comment 13474585 JohnF said:
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Melo and Knicks #8 to Celtics for the #1. Knicks then draft Ball #1.

While what's left of the Knicks fans heads explode, you hear muttering from the secret lair under MSG:



Come to ME, Lavar! Let us make beautiful douchebaggery together!


I disagree. At this point I think most Knicks fans would love that deal. Half of them thing Melo is a net negative and the other half want to see a 'real' rebuild. What better way to accomplish the latter then getting Fultz/Ball to pair with KP/Willy. And if (more like when) they struggle in 2017/18, they'll get another high pick next year to add to the mix.
RE: Didn  
giants#1 : 5/18/2017 12:33 pm : link
In comment 13474635 xman said:
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and even some of that money went to charities?


Yea, I think the Starbury's sold for <$100 too.
RE: Haha  
giants#1 : 5/18/2017 12:37 pm : link
In comment 13474770 KWALL2 said:
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People may be talking about the asshole but nobody is buying. And they won't buy because some slob is running around like a fool.

The shit isn't working. Nobody will buy the shoes unless the kid hits the league like Lebron. And that won't happen.

He'll be gone soon.


Advertising and publicity aren't just about immediate sales. He's building hype around the brand and if he (the son) hits the ground running, you'll likely see more sales down the line thanks to the free publicity.

Lonzo Ball  
santacruzom : 5/18/2017 1:20 pm : link
can play any position. He only plays point guard because that's what Lavar wants.
Lonzo Ball  
santacruzom : 5/18/2017 1:21 pm : link
is better than Steph Curry right now.
Ball is a perfect..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/18/2017 1:27 pm : link
example of what's wrong with society these days. Even though most people think he's an unbearable jackass, they will listen to what he has to say and they will follow him on Twitter and elsewhere despite the fact he's a greedy asswipe grandstanding at the expense of his children.

He's also an example that no matter how shitty a person comes off, they will have some supporters. Why? I have no fucking clue.
RE: Ball is a perfect..  
Anakim : 5/18/2017 1:53 pm : link
In comment 13475391 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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example of what's wrong with society these days. Even though most people think he's an unbearable jackass, they will listen to what he has to say and they will follow him on Twitter and elsewhere despite the fact he's a greedy asswipe grandstanding at the expense of his children.

He's also an example that no matter how shitty a person comes off, they will have some supporters. Why? I have no fucking clue.



Agree 10000%. This is a huge part of what's wrong with society. Stupid shitheads like Lavar Ball, Kanye West, the Kardashians... all contribute nothing to society and yet the news will report on every move they make...and what's worse, they have followers who eat their shit up. It's a vicious cycle that must end. I don't hate those people as much as I hate their "fans" and the news outlets that report on them ad nauseam.
RE: Ball is a perfect..  
santacruzom : 5/18/2017 1:53 pm : link
In comment 13475391 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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He's also an example that no matter how shitty a person comes off, they will have some supporters. Why? I have no fucking clue.


I think a lot of it is wish fulfillment. People who support a character like Ball probably just fantasize about themselves behaving in a similar fashion, or use their imagination to substitute someone they dislike as a target of Ball's derision.
I dunno  
santacruzom : 5/18/2017 1:54 pm : link
"Lavar Ball, Kanye West, the Kardashians... all contribute nothing to society"

As far as contributing something to society (whether you like it or dislike it), one of those things is decidedly not like the other.
RE: RE: Ball is a perfect..  
Anakim : 5/18/2017 1:55 pm : link
In comment 13475433 santacruzom said:
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In comment 13475391 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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He's also an example that no matter how shitty a person comes off, they will have some supporters. Why? I have no fucking clue.



I think a lot of it is wish fulfillment. People who support a character like Ball probably just fantasize about themselves behaving in a similar fashion, or use their imagination to substitute someone they dislike as a target of Ball's derision.


Could be, but what exactly are they aiming for? Living vicariously through their kids?
Who's supporting Lavar Ball?  
David in LA : 5/18/2017 1:58 pm : link
People just enjoy watching a train wreck.
RE: I dunno  
Anakim : 5/18/2017 2:00 pm : link
In comment 13475435 santacruzom said:
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"Lavar Ball, Kanye West, the Kardashians... all contribute nothing to society"

As far as contributing something to society (whether you like it or dislike it), one of those things is decidedly not like the other.


Kanye is a joke. An attention-whoring joke. He thrives off of attention because it feeds his massive ego.


And he's legitimately looney. He's mentally ill and his so-called "fans" are enablers to his lunacy. If they gave two shits about him, they would ignore his incoherent ramblings and pay them no mind. But at this point, they're essentially laughing at his grandiosity.
I think Lavar Ball is a complete piece of junk, but  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/18/2017 2:02 pm : link
I thought Leahy's comments about him being abusive with ZERO concrete evidence to support it was way out of line. Unless she's clueless, she had to expect there was going to be blowback from that by Ball.
Crazy like a fox.  
Crispino : 5/18/2017 2:07 pm : link
He's negotiating. Opening crazy ass bid. You can only come down in a negotiation, not go up. The guy's a scumbag, but he knows exactly what he's doing.
RE: He's definitely  
T-Bone : 5/18/2017 3:32 pm : link
In comment 13474475 Big Rick in FL said:
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Abused his kids before. Idk if it was mentally or physically. I saw an interview with Lonzo where he said he's never argued with his Dad and never will. That's just insane to me. Everybody at some point has an argument with their parents.


I've never so much as raised my voice at neither of my parents... mainly because I ain't stupid. My dad's a bit smaller than me... and deep down I think I could probably take him... but he's the only man on this planet that I'm scared of... and there's no close second. My biological mom... who's passed some years ago... I was even more afraid of. I'd probably test my pops before her. When I was probably about 5 or 6 I once saw her tell a lady at the doctor's office that was sitting behind a desk and a glass plate that she'll reach through that glass and beat the shit out of her if they didn't take me in the back to see me. Needless to say, I was pretty much immediately taken to the back. Mom's was no joke.

That said, my father never acted like a jackass like this one does. So it's possible I might've gotten into it with him over this. I honestly don't know.
RE: RE: He's definitely  
T-Bone : 5/18/2017 3:42 pm : link
In comment 13474477 David in LA said:
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In comment 13474475 Big Rick in FL said:


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Abused his kids before. Idk if it was mentally or physically. I saw an interview with Lonzo where he said he's never argued with his Dad and never will. That's just insane to me. Everybody at some point has an argument with their parents.



That's the exact interview I was talking about. I forget if it was on Colin, but I had a really bad feeling about the guy, and this was before he started making noise with the media. I hope something happens to this guy after what he said about Kyrie's mother.


What'd he say about Kyrie's mother? I did a quick Google search and all I found it him saying Kyrie didn't have kids so he (Kyrie) shouldn't comment on how he raises his kids (which is wrong because Kyrie had a kid either last year or the year before).
LMAO!!!  
T-Bone : 5/18/2017 3:51 pm : link
"He's also an example that no matter how shitty a person comes off, they will have some supporters. Why? I have no fucking clue."

There's actually one other guy I can think of who I've had this EXACT same thought about... it's mind-boggling really.
Here you go T-Bone  
David in LA : 5/18/2017 3:54 pm : link
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“Kyrie, he’s in a different situation. So you can’t put yourself in the same situation as Lonzo,” Ball said. “I have a wife and two other sons. You not in that situation, his was different. Now, he couldn’t wait to break away from his dad. Why? Because you guys was needy back then. My boy’s not needy, he does whatever he wants. Just like I do whatever I want.

“So you can’t put yourself in that situation and say, ‘Oh, from my experience.’ Maybe he didn’t have the relationship that me and ‘Zo got. I don’t think he did. First of all, your mom wasn’t there. Something’s got to change right there, it’s not the same.

“Lonzo can come home and see his mom and dad all the time. Most people, with his talent, usually has a single parent. Not two of them together and be involved.”


It should be noted that Kyrie's mother died when he was 4.
RE: Here you go T-Bone  
T-Bone : 5/18/2017 4:14 pm : link
In comment 13475553 David in LA said:
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“Kyrie, he’s in a different situation. So you can’t put yourself in the same situation as Lonzo,” Ball said. “I have a wife and two other sons. You not in that situation, his was different. Now, he couldn’t wait to break away from his dad. Why? Because you guys was needy back then. My boy’s not needy, he does whatever he wants. Just like I do whatever I want.

“So you can’t put yourself in that situation and say, ‘Oh, from my experience.’ Maybe he didn’t have the relationship that me and ‘Zo got. I don’t think he did. First of all, your mom wasn’t there. Something’s got to change right there, it’s not the same.

“Lonzo can come home and see his mom and dad all the time. Most people, with his talent, usually has a single parent. Not two of them together and be involved.”



It should be noted that Kyrie's mother died when he was 4.


Ouch.

Kyrie has a right to punch him in the mouth when he sees him.
By the way...  
T-Bone : 5/18/2017 4:14 pm : link
thanks David! I hadn't seen those.
No problem T-Bone  
David in LA : 5/18/2017 4:35 pm : link
This poor kid is going to end up on countless posters, because of his windbag father.
Any team that drafts this kid and  
The 12th Man : 5/18/2017 5:22 pm : link
His moron father gets what they deserve. If the Lakers actually draft this kid they should have their team franchise revoked. I would not draft him and then have every other team not draft him either. Let him go to Europe
RE: Lavar Ball  
The 12th Man : 5/18/2017 5:27 pm : link
In comment 13474643 LCtheINTMachine said:
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is one of the best things to happen to sports media.

ESPN, Colin Cowheard, Fox, Screamin A Smith and all the blithering idiot bloggers can't get enough of him. He's more famous than more than half the NBA.


Every sports station wants a tool to talk about, Ball is the NBA's. People are not thinking he is right they are talking about him as a blithering idiot.
RE: Any team that drafts this kid and  
David in LA : 5/18/2017 5:41 pm : link
In comment 13475620 The 12th Man said:
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His moron father gets what they deserve. If the Lakers actually draft this kid they should have their team franchise revoked. I would not draft him and then have every other team not draft him either. Let him go to Europe


I know it's tough, but you have to separate the kid from the father. I think Lonzo is a good kid, who happens to have an overbearing father. Once he gets his ink, gets to know NBA culture, I think you'll see him start to get a backbone. He'd be an awesome fit in Philly with Embiid, and Simmons.
RE: Hypothetical Trade  
B in ALB : 5/18/2017 5:45 pm : link
In comment 13474585 JohnF said:
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Melo and Knicks #8 to Celtics for the #1. Knicks then draft Ball #1.

While what's left of the Knicks fans heads explode, you hear muttering from the secret lair under MSG:



Come to ME, Lavar! Let us make beautiful douchebaggery together!


I love this picture. He's trying to be a cool musician, playing the guitar and singin the blues. On the road, trying to make a living with his band - singing about women, love, heartbreak and tough times.

Meanwhile, swinging from his wrist is a $30,000 Rolex.

What a dickbag.
RE: Lonzo Ball  
B in ALB : 5/18/2017 5:47 pm : link
In comment 13475385 santacruzom said:
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is better than Steph Curry right now.


You're either a moron or you're trying to be one.
I don't follow the NBA  
Knineteen : 5/18/2017 5:57 pm : link
but LaVar Ball isn't even a basketball player?! He's the FATHER of an NBA player?!?!

Why the hell does a FATHER have so much name recognition?!
LaVar  
Simms : 5/18/2017 5:59 pm : link
Wish him well, his father is a clown.
LaVar  
santacruzom : 5/18/2017 6:35 pm : link
could have easily beaten Michael Jordan 1-on-1.
RE: LaVar  
Anakim : 5/18/2017 6:37 pm : link
In comment 13475656 Simms said:
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Wish him well, his father is a clown.


You mean Lonzo
At some point, the son is going to have to dump the father.  
Ira : 5/18/2017 6:59 pm : link
That could be very painful.
I guess fame goes to one's head.  
SHO'NUFF : 5/18/2017 8:19 pm : link
What happened to him? I used to love him as Geordi LaForge!
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