NFT: LaVar Ball wants $3B for shoe deal

something else and is ultimately going to cost his kid one way or the other. Endorsements will be thin...teams may be scared away hurting draft position...etc.

reporter & stated Lonzo will only workout for the Lakers.

This guy is a total tool.

Too.

That's a lot.

The financial penalty of having him as a father may not be realized yet, but there's little doubt in my mind that decisions have already been made to stay away from that situation.

In comment 13474423 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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reporter & stated Lonzo will only workout for the Lakers. This guy is a total tool.

Not defending him by any means, but Lavar might've found out beforehand that Leahy said that Lavar essentially abuses his kids.

of all the teams in the NBA

they can be called Lavar 1-30

for example, Lavar 3 is playing Lavar 17

In comment 13474423 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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reporter & stated Lonzo will only workout for the Lakers. This guy is a total tool.

I just saw that, that was awful. I do my best to separate Lonzo from his dad, but this asshole just keeps making that more difficult to do. I live right by Staples, if I ever see Lavar, oh yeah, I will heckle him to get a reaction out of him.

I think he's a fun player to watch, but I can't get past his old man being a complete jackass. Lonzo needs to tell him to STFU.

It's hard for me to feel bad for a guy that won't keep other people's children's names out of his mouth in this instance.

that Lonzo comes off as a Joe Jackson wannabe with his heavy involvement with his kids future earnings and fortunes. There was an interview where he said pretty defiantly thta his children would never stand up to him, because they wouldn't be his kids anymore. He's a piece of shit that even undermined his son's coaches.

never watch him play a game. I'm assuming he is a BB player. Whi did he play for in college?

That's a bizarre way of describing that interview.

Leahy has trashed him in the media. She essentially said he mistreats his kids. His reaction was to her opinions, not to her gender.

He did mention that he has no interest in selling women's shoes. I don't think that's sexist either.

In comment 13474449 ctc in ftmyers said:

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never watch him play a game. I'm assuming he is a BB player. Whi did he play for in college?

He is the father of a kid about to be drafted number 2. Some people think the son is the next Jason Kidd

But, I think it's unfair to mischaracterize what he said and label it as a sexist rant.

In comment 13474447 David in LA said:

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that Lonzo comes off as a Joe Jackson wannabe with his heavy involvement with his kids future earnings and fortunes. There was an interview where he said pretty defiantly thta his children would never stand up to him, because they wouldn't be his kids anymore. He's a piece of shit that even undermined his son's coaches.

Not even debating that. Lavar is a grade A piece of dog shit, but it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't treat her with respect given her comments about him.

In comment 13474449 ctc in ftmyers said:

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never watch him play a game. I'm assuming he is a BB player. Whi did he play for in college?

He's the father of the potential #2 player in the NBA Draft



Though I want to see the Lakers pass on Lonzo just to see Lavar's head explode

In comment 13474455 Anakim said:

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In comment 13474449 ctc in ftmyers said: Quote: never watch him play a game. I'm assuming he is a BB player. Whi did he play for in college? He's the father of the potential #2 player in the NBA Draft Though I want to see the Lakers pass on Lonzo just to see Lavar's head explode

That would be awesome.

mouth shut. How embarrassing for the kid.

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In comment 13474458 adamg said:

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In comment 13474455 Anakim said: Quote: In comment 13474449 ctc in ftmyers said: Quote: never watch him play a game. I'm assuming he is a BB player. Whi did he play for in college? He's the father of the potential #2 player in the NBA Draft Though I want to see the Lakers pass on Lonzo just to see Lavar's head explode That would be awesome.

Let Lonzo go to Phoenix or Sacramento

In comment 13474450 adamg said:

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That's a bizarre way of describing that interview. Leahy has trashed him in the media. She essentially said he mistreats his kids. His reaction was to her opinions, not to her gender. He did mention that he has no interest in selling women's shoes. I don't think that's sexist either.

You should check the interview I referenced. He was so fucking smug about how his kids wouldn't ever dare challenge him. You can't act like Joe Jackson in public and then get butthurt when people even make that implication about you. The Ball's actually reminds me of those coach's sons that are not only forced to play the sport, but also put in insane hours at their craft, and never really allowed to have a personality of their own.

but yet, he is hawking gear for women.
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Abused his kids before. Idk if it was mentally or physically. I saw an interview with Lonzo where he said he's never argued with his Dad and never will. That's just insane to me. Everybody at some point has an argument with their parents.

In comment 13474475 Big Rick in FL said:

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Abused his kids before. Idk if it was mentally or physically. I saw an interview with Lonzo where he said he's never argued with his Dad and never will. That's just insane to me. Everybody at some point has an argument with their parents.

That's the exact interview I was talking about. I forget if it was on Colin, but I had a really bad feeling about the guy, and this was before he started making noise with the media. I hope something happens to this guy after what he said about Kyrie's mother.

In comment 13474475 Big Rick in FL said:

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Abused his kids before. Idk if it was mentally or physically. I saw an interview with Lonzo where he said he's never argued with his Dad and never will. That's just insane to me. Everybody at some point has an argument with their parents.

It almost like Lonzo has some form of PTSD. Watched him all year and he seemed to fade into the background a lot and not assert himself. That's bad for a PG.

however,

Everywhere you turn on the dial, every hour of the day, Lonzo and his dad come up.

I'm a firm believer in there is no such thing as "bad" publicity in today's society. Publicity is publicity. And he/they will make millions off of this somehow, mark my words.

I want a $3 billion shoe deal too.

But you dont see me running to the media about it.

More like Lucille Ball: Hilarious!!!!

In comment 13474468 David in LA said:

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In comment 13474450 adamg said: Quote: That's a bizarre way of describing that interview. Leahy has trashed him in the media. She essentially said he mistreats his kids. His reaction was to her opinions, not to her gender. He did mention that he has no interest in selling women's shoes. I don't think that's sexist either. You should check the interview I referenced. He was so fucking smug about how his kids wouldn't ever dare challenge him. You can't act like Joe Jackson in public and then get butthurt when people even make that implication about you. The Ball's actually reminds me of those coach's sons that are not only forced to play the sport, but also put in insane hours at their craft, and never really allowed to have a personality of their own.

I didn't say he isn't abusive to his kids. It's evident that at the least he's leeching off of their success, so if he turns out to be an abusive piece of shit, I wouldn't be surprised. I also wouldn't be surprised if it turns out he also has skewed idea of gender and gender roles.

But, on Cowherd's show today - which is what I assumed was the reference, he didn't go off on a sexist rant. I don't like throwing out words like "sexist" flippantly; just because the speakers are a man and a woman, it doesn't make any speech act an act of sexism. It was a put down based on their personal history. And it's his prerogative to defend himself if he feels personally attacked. Just because he's an asshole, he's not automatically also a male chauvinist, and I saw the show and didn't view their exchange that way.

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but yet, he is hawking gear for women. Link - ( New Window )

I'm not surprised he's a hypocrite. I hate to defend him against anything, but I thought there was an important distinction here.

shouldn't be tossed around so casually, but what he did was treat her like she's subhuman. Misguided notions of gender roles kind of goes hand in hand with sexism, no?

In comment 13474506 David in LA said:

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shouldn't be tossed around so casually, but what he did was treat her like she's subhuman. Misguided notions of gender roles kind of goes hand in hand with sexism, no?

Yes. But, I don't think that was an instance of that. He was dismissive due to prior events (her calling him a bad parent and making jokes about how his family must live in fear of him), not due to the fact that she was a woman or that she has no place in a conversation about sports because of her gender.

I'm only talking about that singular exchange as it being used as evidence of sexism, not of the claim itself.

There are enough weaknesses in his game to make him not a sure thing, then add the Dad to the mix and it's a headache for management and the coaching staff. Plus guys are going to go after him constantly, trying to show him up. And his defense isn't exactly his forte in the first place.

Just seems like a mess that they should avoid. And there are other guys worthy of that pick. It's a deep draft.

He needs to crawl under a rock and stay there. I blame the press in this country for allowing such jerks to have a voice. The only way he should think about getting a pair of sneakers is to buy them in a store.

while caveating that I think the father is over the top, I love the concept of them coming out with their own brand and finding a way to profit off of their own brand instead of letting a corporation make money off of them (same way NCAA pimps out athletes in all sports).

If they can make money doing it, why not. Asking $3B is not a serious request, it is a statement against the concept of letting a multibillion dollar corporation make tens of millions (or more) while the one actually doing the work to earn that reputation makes far less.

Those who listen to Dan Le Batard have heard his stance on this and I happen to agree.

I also think this guy is hilarious.

Melo and Knicks #8 to Celtics for the #1. Knicks then draft Ball #1.

While what's left of the Knicks fans heads explode, you hear muttering from the secret lair under MSG:



Come to ME, Lavar! Let us make beautiful douchebaggery together!

and even some of that money went to charities?

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and even some of that money went to charities?

Starbury's - loved those shoes

is one of the best things to happen to sports media.

ESPN, Colin Cowheard, Fox, Screamin A Smith and all the blithering idiot bloggers can't get enough of him. He's more famous than more than half the NBA.

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and even some of that money went to charities?

Marbury is an underrated human and player

A ton of publicity over his idiocy. I can't stand this dickhead

which is for everyone to talk about him and his brand. In the same vein as half the numbnuts on TV, he is just saying whatever ridiculous shit he can and watching everyone overreact to it and talk about him more. I am surprised ESPN hasn't given him a show yet so everyone can talk about him some more.

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which is for everyone to talk about him and his brand. In the same vein as half the numbnuts on TV, he is just saying whatever ridiculous shit he can and watching everyone overreact to it and talk about him more. I am surprised ESPN hasn't given him a show yet so everyone can talk about him some more.

On the Dan Le Batard show they had a business media person on saying in the 24 hours of him announcing the shoe deal for $500, all of the sports shows talking about him, and every other media outlet, gave them $50M in free advertising!

Genius

People may be talking about the asshole but nobody is buying. And they won't buy because some slob is running around like a fool.

The shit isn't working. Nobody will buy the shoes unless the kid hits the league like Lebron. And that won't happen.

He'll be gone soon.

it's opportunity cost. Yes he's getting free advertising but at the end of his day his kids will get a fraction of what they will get from a major shoe brand.

In comment 13474770 KWALL2 said:

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People may be talking about the asshole but nobody is buying. And they won't buy because some slob is running around like a fool. The shit isn't working. Nobody will buy the shoes unless the kid hits the league like Lebron. And that won't happen. He'll be gone soon.

I agree that it is not a great business strategy. I doubt he sells many shoes too. But he is an overbearing attention whore soccer mom, and he is certainly getting the spotlight on himself with all his nonsense.

and if I'm the Lakers, I'd have significant reservations about taking Lonzo. His father is an albatross, but I have some serious reservations about his game. He is an other-worldly passer with great vision, but how is he going to create his own shot in the NBA? And I know it is only one game, but his no-show v. Fox and Kentucky was very concerning. It wasn't simply that he played poorly, but halfway through the first half, he was passing the ball off as soon as he crossed halfcourt. It was like he wanted nothing to do with Fox.

That, and the fact that he was so casual and declaring for the NBA draft only minutes after what should have been a devastating NCAA loss. Look at how Fox was after Kentucky lost to UNC, he was inconsolable. Not saying that Lonzo had to be that upset, but a little disappointment would have been nice.

In comment 13474585 JohnF said:
[quote] Melo and Knicks #8 to Celtics for the #1. Knicks then draft Ball #1.

While what's left of the Knicks fans heads explode, you hear muttering from the secret lair under MSG:

At first Boston no way takes that trade and most likely wouldn't. But, just but, is Melo + Monk that much worse than Fultz? Considering their position to get past Cleveland? Not the craziest of ideas. Knicks would need to give up more though.