I guess we sold our souls for Giants superbowls, because every other sport in this country can suck a dick the last 20 years.
AV and Sather (who signed all these vets AV just cant help himself to keep playing) can go fuck themselves for pissing away games 2 and 5. We could beat Pittsburgh easily the way they've looked the first three games.
But then again is there any doubt if we had beaten Ottawa, the Caps would have somehow exercised demons and beaten Pittsburgh in 7?
but we had no business losing that series. Just sheer incompetence in games 2 and 5.
They're also 6-1 in overtime. They've had a horseshoe up their ass and MAF didnt give his team a chance tonight. You still have to think Pitt pulls this out, but they are really banged up. Who knows.
Pretty shocking that Pittsburgh has 2 goals in almost 10 periods of that series now.
Which has kind of become the MO for those two franchises post lockout.
Right now Nashville looks like the team that will hoist the Cup (weren't they the 16 seed of all the playoff teams?), but i guess still lots of time left for injuries to set in and momentum.
They prob didn't do enough to enough to make it hard on Fleury but they played well enough that series to win imo. I didn't see a huge choke there this year, unlike other years.
Actually I give Washington much more leeway last year
Than this year. Last year Murray was great in that series and the pens won on a bounce or two.
This year no letang. No Murray. Hagelin missed half the series. Crosby missed a game. I think hornqvist missed some time. Daley missed a few games.
They choked Plain and simple.
Washington has the same problem it seems the Rangers do this time of year - no one on their team seems able to take over this time of year. Though in our case it's easier to put a finger on - lack of high end draft picks and Hart trophy nominees. In the caps case it's an enigma why ovechkin, backstrom and others have never had that incredible playoff run....
This time of year entering a series. And Games 3 and 4 - which were the only games decisively won were won by the good guys. All 4 either way games went to them.
Reality is this team pissed away 3 goals on empty net time with 4 total minutes left... Then hit posts, knocked in pucks 3
Inches too high, and fanned on empty nets (Nash game 2)... After that and lost both. Lundqvists playoff OT record remains an impressive 11-18.
So we can play retroactive bullshit on who's the smartest or we can call it what it is - one fuck of a choke job and bad luck.
I don't think this group ever sees a Finals. Lundqvist and his 5 finals games as a career - less than Simmonds and Giroux who have more years in them - deserved better but then again he shares a lot of 'shade' for his performance in games 2 and 5. I don't know what it is with him north of the border
and in fact take great joy in their misery, I will say I do understand watching this Pens series and being frustrated. I know it's easy to say otherwise, but by any objective measure the Rangers were the better team, and had every opportunity to actually sweep that series, let alone lose it. To see Ottawa now handling Pittsburgh pretty well does make you think "what if." How could it not?
Also if we'd actually been ... Coached ... In game 2 and won.... Maybe Ottawa wins a game 3 or 4 playing with more desperation. Who knows.
But yeah - for someone who got over it because pitt and especially wash seemed so much better ... This is really painful. I almost find myself rooting for Pittsburgh as some sort of mental safe place.
Fuck AV and fuck Nash - bad luck or whatever you had an empty net in game 2 and came short ... Again. Always an excuse... It's tiring
RE: While I certainly don't feel bad for Rangers fans
and in fact take great joy in their misery, I will say I do understand watching this Pens series and being frustrated. I know it's easy to say otherwise, but by any objective measure the Rangers were the better team, and had every opportunity to actually sweep that series, let alone lose it. To see Ottawa now handling Pittsburgh pretty well does make you think "what if." How could it not?
It works for us, too, Mikey (as Isles fans). Nashville had the same exact record and number of points as us. Not only did they get in, but are doing some work. In fact, we scored one more goal than they did this season, so it's extremely frustrating seeing a very similar team get in in a weaker conference and making a run. Oh well.
The unbalanced conference stuff is garbage. And it's going to be 5 years before Vegas makes the playoffs so it's an issue for a while
Nashville is like 300 miles west of islanders. If this wild card stuff is how you want to go make the final 2 spots (not 4) truly be wild. Entire league.
I still maintain that there is a minimal difference between the majority of the teams that make the playoffs in this league. Most people didn't even have the Senators winning a round let alone potentially getting to the Finals.
We saw a similar narrative 3 years ago.
Doesn't matter how we got there, how they're getting there - bottom line is that if you make the playoffs, you have a shot in this league and the Rangers will be right back in the mix next year.
Upgrade the blue line, unload a couple anchors if possible and look for a few smaller, savvy additions. I still do not feel wholesale changes are needed here though I'd like to see a new coach behind the bench.
It won't bother me if OTT wins the cup. It'll mean we got eliminated by the eventual Cup winner 2 years in a row rather than some doormat that we should have beaten handily.
We can harp on how we had them beaten forever but we didn't seal the deal and they capitalized. It is what it is. I hope they beat PIT.
I still maintain that there is a minimal difference between the majority of the teams that make the playoffs in this league. Most people didn't even have the Senators winning a round let alone potentially getting to the Finals.
We saw a similar narrative 3 years ago.
Doesn't matter how we got there, how they're getting there - bottom line is that if you make the playoffs, you have a shot in this league and the Rangers will be right back in the mix next year.
Upgrade the blue line, unload a couple anchors if possible and look for a few smaller, savvy additions. I still do not feel wholesale changes are needed here though I'd like to see a new coach behind the bench.
Rangers ? We weren't some Cinderella that year - that's bullshit. We were the best damn team in the league from December through April and didn't need OTLs and OT hybrid wins to prove it and were top 10 in possession and the other metrics.
Penguins was only a series I'm convinced because the NHL had us play somehow 5 games in a record 7 days.
Kings were better damnit but that team doesn't get enough credit. A modern Gm keeps stralman over Girardi and that group wins a cup or two.
The Rangers were not a popular Cup pick going into those playoffs regardless of the hot streak - I don't think many of us really thought that team was going to make the run that they did.
I don't know what the Vegas odds were but I bet quite a few teams had better odds than we did that year.
We may not even have gotten to the SCF if Price hadn't been hurt in Game 1 of the ECF.
But really all I'm saying is that the margin of difference between teams in this league can be so small - literal bounces of the puck can change entire series complexions.
I'm still annoyed about the Stralman gaffe too but it is what it is.
I still believe this group can win a Cup.
I do feel like this was a big missed chance. But.. what's done is done.
AV and Sather (who signed all these vets AV just cant help himself to keep playing) can go fuck themselves for pissing away games 2 and 5. We could beat Pittsburgh easily the way they've looked the first three games.
But then again is there any doubt if we had beaten Ottawa, the Caps would have somehow exercised demons and beaten Pittsburgh in 7?
Fuck.
They're also 6-1 in overtime. They've had a horseshoe up their ass and MAF didnt give his team a chance tonight. You still have to think Pitt pulls this out, but they are really banged up. Who knows.
Pretty shocking that Pittsburgh has 2 goals in almost 10 periods of that series now.
Ottawa earned their luck.
Which has kind of become the MO for those two franchises post lockout.
Right now Nashville looks like the team that will hoist the Cup (weren't they the 16 seed of all the playoff teams?), but i guess still lots of time left for injuries to set in and momentum.
The margin is slim..
Which has kind of become the MO for those two franchises post lockout.
Nah. The Caps had that MO way before the lockout.
This year no letang. No Murray. Hagelin missed half the series. Crosby missed a game. I think hornqvist missed some time. Daley missed a few games.
They choked Plain and simple.
Washington has the same problem it seems the Rangers do this time of year - no one on their team seems able to take over this time of year. Though in our case it's easier to put a finger on - lack of high end draft picks and Hart trophy nominees. In the caps case it's an enigma why ovechkin, backstrom and others have never had that incredible playoff run....
We all? Speak for yourself, morons.
Pfffffft.....you didn't even spell it correctly.
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Maybe Ottawa is actually just better than we all gave them credit for.
We all? Speak for yourself, morons.
Actually, I said OTT was going to give us a really hard time when people were predicting us to just breeze right past them in 5 games.
Suck it, Brettsky.
I did think we would ultimately win a long series, though. :(
Reality is this team pissed away 3 goals on empty net time with 4 total minutes left... Then hit posts, knocked in pucks 3
Inches too high, and fanned on empty nets (Nash game 2)... After that and lost both. Lundqvists playoff OT record remains an impressive 11-18.
So we can play retroactive bullshit on who's the smartest or we can call it what it is - one fuck of a choke job and bad luck.
I don't think this group ever sees a Finals. Lundqvist and his 5 finals games as a career - less than Simmonds and Giroux who have more years in them - deserved better but then again he shares a lot of 'shade' for his performance in games 2 and 5. I don't know what it is with him north of the border
Also if we'd actually been ... Coached ... In game 2 and won.... Maybe Ottawa wins a game 3 or 4 playing with more desperation. Who knows.
But yeah - for someone who got over it because pitt and especially wash seemed so much better ... This is really painful. I almost find myself rooting for Pittsburgh as some sort of mental safe place.
Fuck AV and fuck Nash - bad luck or whatever you had an empty net in game 2 and came short ... Again. Always an excuse... It's tiring
Nashville is like 300 miles west of islanders. If this wild card stuff is how you want to go make the final 2 spots (not 4) truly be wild. Entire league.
I still maintain that there is a minimal difference between the majority of the teams that make the playoffs in this league. Most people didn't even have the Senators winning a round let alone potentially getting to the Finals.
We saw a similar narrative 3 years ago.
Doesn't matter how we got there, how they're getting there - bottom line is that if you make the playoffs, you have a shot in this league and the Rangers will be right back in the mix next year.
Upgrade the blue line, unload a couple anchors if possible and look for a few smaller, savvy additions. I still do not feel wholesale changes are needed here though I'd like to see a new coach behind the bench.
If Pitt wins the cup I will want to throw up.
If the West wins...whatever.
We can harp on how we had them beaten forever but we didn't seal the deal and they capitalized. It is what it is. I hope they beat PIT.
I still maintain that there is a minimal difference between the majority of the teams that make the playoffs in this league. Most people didn't even have the Senators winning a round let alone potentially getting to the Finals.
We saw a similar narrative 3 years ago.
Doesn't matter how we got there, how they're getting there - bottom line is that if you make the playoffs, you have a shot in this league and the Rangers will be right back in the mix next year.
Upgrade the blue line, unload a couple anchors if possible and look for a few smaller, savvy additions. I still do not feel wholesale changes are needed here though I'd like to see a new coach behind the bench.
Rangers ? We weren't some Cinderella that year - that's bullshit. We were the best damn team in the league from December through April and didn't need OTLs and OT hybrid wins to prove it and were top 10 in possession and the other metrics.
Penguins was only a series I'm convinced because the NHL had us play somehow 5 games in a record 7 days.
Kings were better damnit but that team doesn't get enough credit. A modern Gm keeps stralman over Girardi and that group wins a cup or two.
I don't know what the Vegas odds were but I bet quite a few teams had better odds than we did that year.
We may not even have gotten to the SCF if Price hadn't been hurt in Game 1 of the ECF.
But really all I'm saying is that the margin of difference between teams in this league can be so small - literal bounces of the puck can change entire series complexions.
I'm still annoyed about the Stralman gaffe too but it is what it is.
I still believe this group can win a Cup.
I do feel like this was a big missed chance. But.. what's done is done.