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Settlement is possible in the memorabilia lawsuit against

JimNY56 : 5/18/2017 12:29 am
the Giants and Eli.

If so, Eli's reputation would take a heavy blow if he and the Giants agree to any settlement.

The media doesn't give him the respect he deserves now as a 2 time Super Bowl MVP; this could give some who vote excuses to delay him being chosen for the Pro Football Hall Of Fame.

The Star Ledger, Daily News, and SNY are reporting about the possible settlement.

If they settle it will be taken as a admission of guilt.
The Giants and Eli need to win in court to clear his good name.

What do the BBI lawyers think about this.


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I'm a lawyer.  
Mike from SI : 5/18/2017 12:46 am : link
People settle all the time when they have not undertaken the acts they're accused of. To be fair, plenty of people who settle have done what they're accused of. I wouldn't read too much into it. The Eli email looks really bad, but who knows the entire story.
Thanks Mike  
JimNY56 : 5/18/2017 12:57 am : link
I agree, but by settling don't you feel many fans and reporters will take it as an admission of guilt regardless of the agreement.
All the reports are really one report that took a leak from the  
Devon : 5/18/2017 12:58 am : link
plaintiffs about the Giants/Eli dragging their feet about scheduling depositions and concluded why that was/would be happening.

If they were going to settle, they'd have likely done it long ago, well before it blew up publicly. If they were stupid enough to drag this out and settle now, all parties deserve whatever public hit they take for it.
If the claimants aren't operating in good faith  
BlackLight : 5/18/2017 1:07 am : link
If their only goal is do whatever it take to achieve a settlement - even if it means dragging this proceeding out for years, then ultimately, it may be in the team's best interests to settle quickly.

It sucks that any settlement may be perceived as an admission of guilt, but on balance, it may well be the smart move.
No  
Torrag : 5/18/2017 3:50 am : link
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One  
Torrag : 5/18/2017 3:50 am : link
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Cares  
Torrag : 5/18/2017 3:51 am : link
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Parcells made a point  
RetroJint : 5/18/2017 6:43 am : link
of never settling law suits, "just to get rid of them." And, wherever possible, he counterclaimed.

Eli is an idiot to get anywhere near what is a tawdry, corrupt business. I guess 20 million a year is chump change these days. Plus the value of his brand name as far as endorsements is concerned doesn't mean that much to him.
A settlement is probably a good idea.  
an_idol_mind : 5/18/2017 8:50 am : link
The court date is scheduled for September. It's probably not worth the distraction to have this thing drag into the season.

The people who take this as an admission of guilt are the same people who have already made up their minds about this case.
$$$  
JimNY56 : 5/18/2017 9:08 am : link
Does the NFL and the Giants require their players to participate or strongly encourage it?

How much money can a NFL starting QB make in memorabilia each year? How much do the Giants make? The NFL? The memorabilia store?

What is the cut for each?

Compared to their salary and other endorsements it has to be peanuts. Same can be said for the NFL and the Giants.

No issues would crop up if players would just sign new equipment!!!
memorabilia nonsence  
TGATE GRLMST : 5/18/2017 9:34 am : link
Guess what guys I care and you should too
Don't want my Qb worrying about this crap going into the season
Stop making these ahols rich by giving them laundy
And grown men collectors REALLY
There are consequences  
mdc1 : 5/18/2017 9:43 am : link
for personal actions. Eli is no different than anyone else.
Probably best to make it go away  
AnnapolisMike : 5/18/2017 10:03 am : link
The money involved is chump change compared to what the team has invested is the team this upcoming season. Get it behind you and move forward.

Plus there is always the risk of something coming out in a trial that forces the NFL's hand into suspending Eli for a few games.
RE: I'm a lawyer.  
FranknWeezer : 5/18/2017 10:49 am : link
In comment 13474762 Mike from SI said:
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People settle all the time when they have not undertaken the acts they're accused of. To be fair, plenty of people who settle have done what they're accused of. I wouldn't read too much into it. The Eli email looks really bad, but who knows the entire story.


Agree with Mike. Also a lawyer. If it settles, there will be no admission of guilt; in fact liability will continue to be disputed and denied. Also, there should be a confidentiality clause so the terms can't be leaked, and if they are, there will be serious recourse. IT should be reported as an 'amicable compromise in the best interest of all parties involved.' As for public perception, people will forget about this rather quickly and it will get lost int eh shuffle of bigger NFL stories...you know, the kind that crop up every single week.
A settlement  
Pete in MD : 5/18/2017 11:15 am : link
was probably always in the cards. The slimy collector guy gets the payday he was looking for and Eli and the Giants get to put this in the rear-view mirror. Even if it is nothing, it's not worth the trouble. It will fall into that gray legal area where the real story never comes out. Much worse alleged stuff has been swept under the rug in the past.
Points already made  
old man : 5/18/2017 1:20 pm : link
are true:
The e-mail looks bad,
A settlement will be perceived as guilt especially when coupled with the e-mail,
Eli will get further raked over the coals,
Legally, a settlement will be the wisest thing overall, especially going into the season.
Don't settle if you are right.
Given Eli's emotional denial, and his apparent high character level, at least generally, I think he was talked into agreeing to a settlement, take the heat because he can(and somebody will come along and be the new NFL X-gate).
Why hasn't the conduct of the trainer been adressed?  
kinard : 5/18/2017 1:59 pm : link
... This isn't some isolated incident, at least according to Brandon Jacobs. This guy has been taking game used jerseys and selling them without the consent of some of the players for a while it appears.

Why this wasn't quietly settled when the first accusations were made is beyond me. Once you draw a line in the sand and say "I'm not settling" it doesn't look good doing a 180 on that.

Still, the idea of taking this to trial and having it drag on through the season is disconcerting and I'm sure Manning wants no part of that for a number of reasons.

I think his longtime reputation could withstand the hit of settling the lawsuit instead of the season-long albatross it could morph into. Part of me also thinks that Eli is above giving a shit about what other people think about him (he's dealt with that his whole life). His track record speaks for itself.

Settle the fucker and let's play ball.
Does Eli give a fuck what people thing of him, that depends...  
JimNY56 : 5/18/2017 5:19 pm : link
I don't think he cares about when they [media or fans] criticizes him because he threw an interception. Want to criticize his looks, he won't give it two thoughts.

It is quite another thing when people accuse you of being a crook & a cheat. Eli cares about his family, and that why he cares about the Manning name.

Eli has two to four years left playing football.

He wants to be remembered as a damn good football player who had high character 100% of the time, not 90%.

That 10% of doubt give everyone the right to shit on him even more and question what type of person he is and the whole Manning family.

Any elite/excellent football player also cares if he can get into the Hall Of Fame. He has a extremely good shot, but this could delay him getting in.

I think he cares and the Manning name would be hurt.

There also is a slight chance that if he signs any settlement and it is looked as an admission of guilt the NFL could suspend him a game or two for hurting the NFL image.




But what do some/most football fans care, they just want to win football games, so Eli just sign the damn settlement for them.



Even given his prestine reputation  
Knineteen : 5/18/2017 5:54 pm : link
I can't give Eli a pass here.

His email is too much.
Settling only further adds to the negative light here.
RE: Even given his prestine reputation  
an_idol_mind : 5/18/2017 10:31 pm : link
In comment 13475648 Knineteen said:
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I can't give Eli a pass here.

His email is too much.
Settling only further adds to the negative light here.


So a one sentence email is enough to throw out his entire history?
RE: RE: Even given his prestine reputation  
Knineteen : 5/18/2017 11:07 pm : link
In comment 13475810 an_idol_mind said:
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So a one sentence email is enough to throw out his entire history?

Well, I don't know why the length of the email should matter, but it doesn't really shed a good light on the situation.
And IIRC, it took Manning a while before making any sort of comment on the matter.
And to-date, has any excuse or explanation been given by him?
The entire league would love to see this settled.  
Phil in Joisey : 5/19/2017 12:22 am : link
Do you think the Giants are the only team selling b.s. "game worn jerseys"? And how many game-worn-jerseys do you think
a player has each season? I have reason to believe that the answer is 2....one home, one away, unless it gets torn.
They are form-fitted to the individual to try and prevent them from being grabbed, laundered after each game and put on a hangar to be saved for the following game.
The NFL wants this suit to disappear as quietly and quickly as possible because the Giants are most likely just the tip of the iceberg.
OMG this is worse than Pete Rose !  
EricJ : 5/19/2017 7:45 am : link
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I still  
Steve in Greenwich : 5/19/2017 8:13 am : link
cant believe how much of a story this thing has turned into. The general public just sucks at the English language. Eli writes an email to the equipment manager who holds his game used equipment asking for him to give him a helmet that passes as game used. Pass - definition - be accepted as; he doesn't say can I have two helmets that can falsely pass as game used. He asks for something that can pass as game used. I guarantee you the contract with Steiner or whoever it is has a laundry list of what makes something considered game used; and shocker, wearing it in the game is not likely the only thing that makes something game used. If the equipment manager touched the helmet the day of the game it probably is considered game used. So Eli asked Skiba to give him two helmets that pass the requirements for game used so he can turn it in to Steiner sports; what the hell is the big deal? This whole thing is a freaking joke, how no one can comprehend this is beyond me. Yea, Eli Manning who's made about 150 mil in his life, won man of the year for his charitable endeavors, is going out of his way to swindle a memorabilia outfit. Makes perfect sense.
The level of homerism  
pjcas18 : 5/19/2017 8:59 am : link
on here any time Eli is legit questioned for on-field play or this off-field issue is not surprising.

this whole thing is shady and Eli is very possibly part of it.

Say your "Say it ain't so Eli" piece, knock him off the deity pedestal and move on. the amount of people on here who think they "know" a professional athlete because of how he comes across in an interview or on TV is the astonishing part.

oh and the money is laughable to even mention. Because someone is wealthy it means they are beyond petty swindling? Some of the wealthiest people on the planet are among the shadiest and that's no coincidence. And it could be it's just a hassle he didn't want to deal with.

Or it could be nothing, but anyone reaching conclusions about it is reaching the conclusion they want to reach about it.

RE: Parcells made a point  
Beezer : 5/19/2017 9:12 am : link
In comment 13474797 RetroJint said:
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of never settling law suits, "just to get rid of them." And, wherever possible, he counterclaimed.

Eli is an idiot to get anywhere near what is a tawdry, corrupt business. I guess 20 million a year is chump change these days. Plus the value of his brand name as far as endorsements is concerned doesn't mean that much to him.


That is ... some serious bullshit right there.
I see it exactly like Steve in Greenwich.  
BigBlue in Keys : 5/19/2017 9:29 am : link
Maybe it's my blue colored glasses but that email is in no way any definitive proof.
RE: I still  
BillKo : 5/19/2017 10:04 am : link
In comment 13475928 Steve in Greenwich said:
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cant believe how much of a story this thing has turned into. The general public just sucks at the English language. Eli writes an email to the equipment manager who holds his game used equipment asking for him to give him a helmet that passes as game used. Pass - definition - be accepted as; he doesn't say can I have two helmets that can falsely pass as game used. He asks for something that can pass as game used. I guarantee you the contract with Steiner or whoever it is has a laundry list of what makes something considered game used; and shocker, wearing it in the game is not likely the only thing that makes something game used. If the equipment manager touched the helmet the day of the game it probably is considered game used. So Eli asked Skiba to give him two helmets that pass the requirements for game used so he can turn it in to Steiner sports; what the hell is the big deal? This whole thing is a freaking joke, how no one can comprehend this is beyond me. Yea, Eli Manning who's made about 150 mil in his life, won man of the year for his charitable endeavors, is going out of his way to swindle a memorabilia outfit. Makes perfect sense.


Steve - I'm with you on this, and that's how I take that email.

He actually asked what can pass as per the contract so he's not just giving any helmet.

Does anyone think Eli keeps track of this crap? For stuff like this, he depends on others........that's just the way it is.
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