Just trying to spark some opinions.
Assume Fullz, Ball, Fox, Jackson, Tatum are gone.
Monk - I don't think the NYK can afford to take him. Too one dimensional. He'll probably be a good bench scorer. Hindu Theory: Monte Ellis.
Ntilikina - does not look like a PG to me, but I do love his D and shooting stroke based on the clips. Also seems very intuitive in terms of understanding of the game. Great motor. Hindu Theory: Khris Middleton.
Isaac - I think he's a hair better than last years # 2 overall Brandon Ingram but similar. Hindu Theory: Scottie Pippen offensively and an above average (not transcendent)
defender.
Smith - Much discussion in the NYK thread about him. Is he Steve Francis (not a great compliment) or is he a young Derrick Rose? I really do not have a great feel for this player and I know others on this board do so I defer.
Sleepers for NYK Pick:
Donovan Mitchell. Hindu Theory: Avery Bradley.
OG Anunoby. Would be a trade down scenario i.e. # 8 for all of Portland's picks. Hindu Theory: Reminds me of Kahwi Leonard when he came in the league. If we can walk out of the draft with Portland's picks spent on Anunoby + TJ Leaf + Derrick White, that to me is better than getting Monk or Smith.
Off to Orlando!
He should retire. We're not going to LV because he cant travel.
I think I hate this more than the Noah signing.
Chasson Randle too. Last year's team was awful. Hopefully it'll be more fun to watch this year given that we have three draft picks.
Based on Phil's comments after the lottery, he sees Willy as a building block and isn't really considering a 4 or 5 in the draft.
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will not participate in LV. Berman claims Phil hates it there.
He should retire. We're not going to LV because he cant travel.
$12 million a year for this. For that money, you could have your pick of nearly any front office guy in the league...I don't care how bad the owner is.
which may be why the triangle doesn't work now. So, we may be higher than the league, but that's probably because Phil wants to go even higher.
but it can cycle back just like running in football, especially as you don't want to waste a porzingas by asking him to live and die by his own rebounds, near the basket, when that's not his thing and he has other stregths
Loose labia? Why the fuck not? Let him play in Orlando. Couldn't hurt.
And geez, Early, Thanasis and Labeyrie. Yikes. Could've had Jokic or Clarkson over Early.
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will not participate in LV. Berman claims Phil hates it there.
I think I hate this more than the Noah signing.
I don't think this is a big deal in the scheme of things, but all this stuff adds up. Woj and others always talk about how a part of being a successful GM is building relationships. Summer league in Vegas is an opportunity for that and Phil clearly has no interest in it.
I don't think this is a big deal in the scheme of things, but all this stuff adds up. Woj and others always talk about how a part of being a successful GM is building relationships. Summer league in Vegas is an opportunity for that and Phil clearly has no interest in it.
It literally does not mean anything at all, but it's something fans (myself included) really look forward to. I'm not sure how participating in it is a negative.
I wait if I'm the Lakers. I'd only consider a deal that takes off salary from the books. Maybe Clarkson and a late 1st for PG? Pacers don't really have leverage. PG will cost less than Cousins did I'd imagine.
Will the Pacers accept Russell and a pick for him?
it cant just be george, they need to add 1 more maybe 2
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George is now a lock to LAL. Do they wait or make a deal for him?
Will the Pacers accept Russell and a pick for him?
In a heartbeat I would think. Not a high pick though, would have to be heavily protected. Indiana holds no cards here.
Isnt it likely that if LA doesnt get him now that IND trades him as a rental to a contender? Isnt there a good chance he ends up happy on that contender and resigns? What if he gets traded to LAC in a 3 way where Blake or Deandre get assets to IND somehow? Or Boston with it's amazing depth?
I dont know about lock. I think LA should put an offer out for him now if they badly want him.
And Cavs. That's the lost part of the "Melo has no value" brigade's argument. The real issue is that the teams he wants to go to have no assets to trade. If LA had a #10 pick and an expiring to match Melo, they'd trade for him in a heartbeat.
Isnt it likely that if LA doesnt get him now that IND trades him as a rental to a contender? Isnt there a good chance he ends up happy on that contender and resigns? What if he gets traded to LAC in a 3 way where Blake or Deandre get assets to IND somehow? Or Boston with it's amazing depth?
I dont know about lock. I think LA should put an offer out for him now if they badly want him.
Sure looks like a lock to me. Working out with Kobe and Randle. Woj reports he already through backchannels has told the Lakers not to bother giving up assets for him because hes such a lock.
Begley seems to (unlike Isola and Berman) have someone in the FO that gives him info. Happy to hear this.
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because he missed the all NBA team and cant be super maxed?
Isnt it likely that if LA doesnt get him now that IND trades him as a rental to a contender? Isnt there a good chance he ends up happy on that contender and resigns? What if he gets traded to LAC in a 3 way where Blake or Deandre get assets to IND somehow? Or Boston with it's amazing depth?
I dont know about lock. I think LA should put an offer out for him now if they badly want him.
Sure looks like a lock to me. Working out with Kobe and Randle. Woj reports he already through backchannels has told the Lakers not to bother giving up assets for him because hes such a lock.
If he's saying that, so be it. I find that somewhat dubious. And I still think he could change his mind if he goes to a contender. Lets say he goes to Boston this summer. LA is a shit show of Ball family nonsense, lack of development, Russell and Ball being weirdos etc. Boston wins 55-62 games and takes the Cavs to 6 or 7 games. PG is just going to bail on that for less money in LA? Maybe that's his intention now, but lets see about later.
Or Miami gets its mitts on him, and Reilly does whatever it is to charm the shit out of him. Meanwhile, the Buss family devolves into litigation, Magic disappears for days at a time to run his other businesses, and Lavar Ball sets up his own youtube show to yell about the Lakers after being banned from Staples Center for life. Maybe PG revisits.
I just dont buy guarantees.
Begley seems to (unlike Isola and Berman) have someone in the FO that gives him info. Happy to hear this.
guess i should start watching some isaac videos then
Gee....why is that? haha
If I'm the Pacers, I hold onto him and hope he makes an all NBA team next year. He's then still eligible for the super max. I'm making him turn down extra 70 mill to go the Lakers.
Conversely I'm not waiting for him if I'm the Lakers because of that. They also don't have pick next year so there's no incentive to be bad again. I'm hoping somehow this situation helps the knicks get something for Melo.
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expected to make a "huge" run at Hayward.
Gee....why is that? haha
Well I want to say whiteness, but I think he played for their coach in college.
what the lakers have going for them is no matter what they do nobody rips them, when magic was hired all we heard was it was a great move, phil was hired who evwryone said the lakers should hire but as soon as he signed with knicks evwrybody ripped. the move...
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as they were forever before. The unsettled nature of the power structure, the fact that Magic Johnson has no more experience running a franchise than Phil Jackson did (and an embarrassing coaching stint too), the fact that their supposed young talent has largely been disappointing....I could definitely see Deej's scenario playing out.
what the lakers have going for them is no matter what they do nobody rips them, when magic was hired all we heard was it was a great move, phil was hired who evwryone said the lakers should hire but as soon as he signed with knicks evwrybody ripped. the move...
To be fair most people applauded the hiring of Phil at first. Myself included. Phil and the Knicks get ripped because they have been awful for his 3 years and Phil's done a bad job.
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as they were forever before. The unsettled nature of the power structure, the fact that Magic Johnson has no more experience running a franchise than Phil Jackson did (and an embarrassing coaching stint too), the fact that their supposed young talent has largely been disappointing....I could definitely see Deej's scenario playing out.
what the lakers have going for them is no matter what they do nobody rips them, when magic was hired all we heard was it was a great move, phil was hired who evwryone said the lakers should hire but as soon as he signed with knicks evwrybody ripped. the move...
Yeah all due respect (and I find your optimism far less annoying than most homers). The VAST majority were loving the Phil hire (media included). Fans were excited. That positivity has eroded. Trust me, Magic would face the same if 3 seasons in the Lakers are in the Knicks situation.
I'm all in on the Ian Clark signing as well. He's looked really good in limited action. Smart player than can shoot. Sign him and flip Lee for a pick this year or next. I really hope they do a true rebuild.
I'm all in on the Ian Clark signing as well. He's looked really good in limited action. Smart player than can shoot. Sign him and flip Lee for a pick this year or next. I really hope they do a true rebuild.
i have defended phil a lot but if he does not go full rebuild i am joining the dark side..
no more. quick fixes, if they suck next year and are young then so be it
Add talent, young and hungry talent. THjr and Grant are legit NBA players, Baker looks solid, KP a stud, Willy could be very good. The scouts seem pretty good. Let them do their thing.
Begley seems to (unlike Isola and Berman) have someone in the FO that gives him info. Happy to hear this.
I would LOVE to draft Isaac, but I think 1 of the 7 teams in front of us will be smart enough to grab him. I'm not going to get my hopes up.
Super Cheap FAs that do as well:
1 Langston Galloway is welcome back as far as I'm concerned
2 James Johnson - actually, he won't be that cheap
3 I always thought Omri Casspi would be a good bench player
4 KJ McDaniels
5 Christian Wood - huge upside just waiting for the right situation/coach to become an impact player
I know its a long way off but I hope they plan for this. Imagine having a young nucleous of KP/ Willy plus 3/4 young building blocks and being able to supplement that with a couple max guys? One can dream....
deaaron fox says he likes the kings, supposedly really good friends with wcs and wants to go to kings
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In comment 13475543 Greg from LI said:
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as they were forever before. The unsettled nature of the power structure, the fact that Magic Johnson has no more experience running a franchise than Phil Jackson did (and an embarrassing coaching stint too), the fact that their supposed young talent has largely been disappointing....I could definitely see Deej's scenario playing out.
what the lakers have going for them is no matter what they do nobody rips them, when magic was hired all we heard was it was a great move, phil was hired who evwryone said the lakers should hire but as soon as he signed with knicks evwrybody ripped. the move...
To be fair most people applauded the hiring of Phil at first. Myself included. Phil and the Knicks get ripped because they have been awful for his 3 years and Phil's done a bad job.
I thought it was a good move too. The only bad thing you could have said about it at the time was that he had no experience as a team president, but that has never really mattered in the NBA.
Sometimes moves that aren't necessarily wrong still don't work out.
Like, this hasn't been bad because Phil doesn't want to do work, or he's out in LA just collecting a check.
He might simply not have the temperament or the patience in his old age to do this job. Part of what makes a competent GM is being adaptable and having an eye on the future. It's spotting trends in how the game is played, and how it might be played in 3-5 years, it's learning how to work with player and agent personalities. For as free-spirited and apparently high minded as Phil Jackson is thought to be, he's been a total curmudgeon about the idea of modern basketball.
Report: Hawks offered Pacers 4 first round picks for Paul George at the trade deadline