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...the Giants' actions this offseason indicate that they're aware of the need to add variety to the offense. Signing Ellison to a four-year, $18 million contract and picking Engram in the first round of the draft have provided the Giants with two versatile pieces that were missing last season. |
When you replace a poor player with a good player, the team gets better. Forget versatility. The Giants can run the same damn plays as last year, but now those plays will work because they are being run by more talented players.
So why the "versatility" angle? There is no story if Duggan just writes that the new TEs are better than the old TEs.
So I can see us doing any many different things. We can also run Y trips and have Engram and Marshall both use their size to block for the WR screens. I am excited to see what we can do with this roster.
The net of it is the same as last year. If the Giants can run the ball respectably, everything will work better
We need to see something from McAdoo now. He's had his excuses - the 1st 2 years he was tied in with Tom, last year he didn't have the personnel.
This is the year. No more excuses. Let's see what you've got.
The net of it is the same as last year. If the Giants can run the ball respectably, everything will work better
Ellison will be in on running or 3 wideout plays. Engram will be in on block and release plays. He'll release against charging or committed LBs and drop into the slot or middle zones. If his block and release is effective there will be one less LB in the middle of the field and Engram becomes a major problem.
The upside is after a few successful plays like this the MLB has to stay back and the safeties have to come out of Cover 2.
So the defense adjusts and the Giants go 3 wide with Marshall instead. No contest.
The question is does McAdoo see this? It's fundamental and hard to counter. McAdoo is smart but got buried in a predictable playbook last year because there weren't too many options. Now he has options like this. We'll have to see.
In one TE sets, it is hard to say right now who will get the most snaps but to start the year it will likely be veteran Ellison and by mid-season Engram should be the weapon of choice at TE. A third corner would have a tough time covering Engram on certain routes due to his big body.
I think we carry four TE's this year: Ellison, Engram, Adams and Tye. Or as unlikely as it may sound, maybe we trade W. Tye? Camp will be telling but if Adams improves by a lot; if Tye improves a little; if Engram is as good as I and many others think he is receiving; and, if Ellison remains his consistent self, not only will we throw the ball much better but we'll run much better as well.
Lastly, while Brandon Marshall is a WR and a future HOF'er, he is as big as many of the TE's in today's league. We should have a big, fast, quick offense this year. If Ellison can help our OT's when matchup issues are there we will be in good shape. Look at what Witten does for the Cowboys, though Witten is getting older and you have to hope he is limited to being a blocker and short line pass receiver this year...that would help us beat them more easily.
On a separate note and continuation of my post right above, the key to this offense's versatility lies in the TE position, YES, but it also will be dependent upon how much Engram, Adams and Tye develop. Adams was raw but clearly had skills that he flashed late last year. Tye came out of Stony Brook and had a lot to learn and he came on strong late last year and in the playoffs. Engram is a rookie so you don't know until camp is well underway what you have.
My take is we come out of the gates strong since Ellison is a veteran; Adams knows the offense and should be improved along with Tye. Engram may take some time and have limited route snaps to start but he is a pure talent, no doubt in my mind, and will create mis-matches for us soon enough.
Go Giants! Who BTW could use a 3rd receiver to step up for a Marshall or OBJ should (God forbid) that need arise. Sharpe is a #3 slot guy not a #2 or #1. WR Harris could likely play a little but he scares no one.
This year, I can honestly see TE Engram, WR Sharpe and RB Perkins all playing "playmaker" roles. WR Brandon Marshall will also be a force, especially in the redzone where we need him most. We have weapons this year, we just need to stay healthy.
Can run the ball, can go into a play action pass, can even run Adams deep, Engram underneath, and Odell down the side lines, making the safeties go crazy. Adams had a bad drop last year down the field, but that was also the only play he was throw to down the field. If Adams pans out into a serviceable receiver or even as good as Donnell was down the field, we could be dangerous passing the ball in any formation and any personnel.
Eli should be able to really punish defenses with our talent upgrades. No more unidimensional receiving options. Real TEs who can scare people. And Vereen back to give Eli more than Shep or Odell as an option in those 3 and 7 situations.
Can run the ball, can go into a play action pass, can even run Adams deep, Engram underneath, and Odell down the side lines, making the safeties go crazy. Adams had a bad drop last year down the field, but that was also the only play he was throw to down the field. If Adams pans out into a serviceable receiver or even as good as Donnell was down the field, we could be dangerous passing the ball in any formation and any personnel.
Eli should be able to really punish defenses with our talent upgrades. No more unidimensional receiving options. Real TEs who can scare people. And Vereen back to give Eli more than Shep or Odell as an option in those 3 and 7 situations.
Even RB Perkins could operate as a runner or receiver behind these two.
And Engram split out is a receiver / blocker.
It will be interesting to see how many lineups McAdoo and staff come up with given our new personnel. Not many teams have solid 2 TE lineups.
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Ellison and Adams in line, Engram in the slot (can move him out wide, move him in the back field, etc.), and Odell out wide.
Can run the ball, can go into a play action pass, can even run Adams deep, Engram underneath, and Odell down the side lines, making the safeties go crazy. Adams had a bad drop last year down the field, but that was also the only play he was throw to down the field. If Adams pans out into a serviceable receiver or even as good as Donnell was down the field, we could be dangerous passing the ball in any formation and any personnel.
Eli should be able to really punish defenses with our talent upgrades. No more unidimensional receiving options. Real TEs who can scare people. And Vereen back to give Eli more than Shep or Odell as an option in those 3 and 7 situations.
We know Ellison can block and can catch a bit; so if Adams also develops into a solid blocker (he has the frame...) and receiver, well, we have a two TE lineup that would create running room AND allow for the short passing game to still work.
Even RB Perkins could operate as a runner or receiver behind these two.
And Engram split out is a receiver / blocker.
It will be interesting to see how many lineups McAdoo and staff come up with given our new personnel. Not many teams have solid 2 TE lineups.
Didn't even think about Perkins as a receiver in that set. Could set up some interesting looks with Perkins in space with Ellison or Adams leading the way. Or even a Beckham screen.
I was also wondering if they would consider running a 02 personnel with Shep in the backfield in the RB spot and Engram in the slot. They did give him a few carries last year. I don't think he was in the backfield though.
If Ellison can be the consistent blocker they anticipate he is, they can do a whole lot of new looks.
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Ellison and Adams in line, Engram in the slot (can move him out wide, move him in the back field, etc.), and Odell out wide.
Can run the ball, can go into a play action pass, can even run Adams deep, Engram underneath, and Odell down the side lines, making the safeties go crazy. Adams had a bad drop last year down the field, but that was also the only play he was throw to down the field. If Adams pans out into a serviceable receiver or even as good as Donnell was down the field, we could be dangerous passing the ball in any formation and any personnel.
Eli should be able to really punish defenses with our talent upgrades. No more unidimensional receiving options. Real TEs who can scare people. And Vereen back to give Eli more than Shep or Odell as an option in those 3 and 7 situations.
We know Ellison can block and can catch a bit; so if Adams also develops into a solid blocker (he has the frame...) and receiver, well, we have a two TE lineup that would create running room AND allow for the short passing game to still work.
Even RB Perkins could operate as a runner or receiver behind these two.
And Engram split out is a receiver / blocker.
It will be interesting to see how many lineups McAdoo and staff come up with given our new personnel. Not many teams have solid 2 TE lineups.
Didn't even think about Perkins as a receiver in that set. Could set up some interesting looks with Perkins in space with Ellison or Adams leading the way. Or even a Beckham screen.
I was also wondering if they would consider running a 02 personnel with Shep in the backfield in the RB spot and Engram in the slot. They did give him a few carries last year. I don't think he was in the backfield though.
If Ellison can be the consistent blocker they anticipate he is, they can do a whole lot of new looks.
The point is that versatility should certainly be there with the personnel we have. Just please stay healthy and have a good camp where you practice together so you come out the gates strong and start 4-0 or better. We travel a lot so a lull will happen but a good start would really help. As well as a strong finish, of course!