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NFT: Mets/Halos - Wheeler on the hill

CMicks3110 : 5/20/2017 6:59 pm
Conforto
Reyes
Bruce
Walker
Granderson
Rivera
Duda
Rivera
Wheelz
Anyone know what channel the game is on?  
PhiPsi125 : 5/20/2017 7:09 pm : link
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Nevermind, it's on FOX.  
PhiPsi125 : 5/20/2017 7:13 pm : link
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wheeler hits 98  
CMicks3110 : 5/20/2017 7:23 pm : link
blows one by Trout
Granderson  
Mike in NY : 5/20/2017 9:09 pm : link
Is a black hole in the line-up. If the Mets don't want Lagares playing, you cannot tell me that someone like Jennings or Taijeron in AAA can't do better for the Mets. Or start Flores at 3B and Rivera in LF (with Conforto playing CF)
If you are going to talk about black holes  
Chris L. : 5/20/2017 9:22 pm : link
you have to include Duda in that discussion. How does this guy get to play everyday??? I would much rather have either T J Rivera or Flores playing over there. This guy has 25 games where he hits a home run (if your lucky and he is not hurt) the other 135 games he gives you nothing. 10 days hot and 60 days totally cold. He kills an offense. I would love to see our won loss record with him versus without him in the line up. Last year as soon as he went out and Looney came in the offense picked up. Can't wait for Dom Smith to send this guy to the bench.
Just can't walk guys  
Chris L. : 5/20/2017 9:23 pm : link
when you are up 4 runs.
This is why you can't waste  
Rflairr : 5/20/2017 9:24 pm : link

Bases loaded nobody out opportunities
5 innngs, 4 hits, 5 walks and leaves with the bases loaded.  
PhiPsi125 : 5/20/2017 9:28 pm : link
Nice job Zack. Solid outing. /eyeroll
Wright shut down from throwing program  
Rflairr : 5/20/2017 9:33 pm : link
Yawn. Retire already
RE: Wright shut down from throwing program  
schabadoo : 5/20/2017 9:57 pm : link
In comment 13477307 Rflairr said:
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Yawn. Retire already


He's got like $60 million coming to him, not sure how he'd walk away from that.
He'll be on the DL  
spike : 5/20/2017 10:03 pm : link
until 2020?
RE: 5 innngs, 4 hits, 5 walks and leaves with the bases loaded.  
spike : 5/20/2017 10:03 pm : link
In comment 13477306 PhiPsi125 said:
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Nice job Zack. Solid outing. /eyeroll


Go easy. Zack has been our no 2 starter after Syndergaard's injury
RE: If you are going to talk about black holes  
spike : 5/20/2017 10:04 pm : link
In comment 13477302 Chris L. said:
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you have to include Duda in that discussion. How does this guy get to play everyday??? I would much rather have either T J Rivera or Flores playing over there. This guy has 25 games where he hits a home run (if your lucky and he is not hurt) the other 135 games he gives you nothing. 10 days hot and 60 days totally cold. He kills an offense. I would love to see our won loss record with him versus without him in the line up. Last year as soon as he went out and Looney came in the offense picked up. Can't wait for Dom Smith to send this guy to the bench.


Duda is acceptable only if they can hit him at 7 or lower
They're likely recouping most of the $ from insurance anyway  
Eric on Li : 5/20/2017 10:06 pm : link
so he's basically just an expensive coach. It'd be great if they could swap 1 of their underperforming hitters (Duda/Grandy) for an underperforming pitcher when Cespedes gets back.
Not worried about Duda  
spike : 5/20/2017 10:09 pm : link
but Grandy should just be a bench bat at this point when Ces returns
TJ is the starting 3rd baseman now  
spike : 5/20/2017 10:12 pm : link
apologies to Cab, Reyes and Wright.
Why is Reed warming up????  
Chris L. : 5/20/2017 10:12 pm : link
This is why Collins needs to go.
RE: Why is Reed warming up????  
Eric on Li : 5/20/2017 10:17 pm : link
In comment 13477327 Chris L. said:
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This is why Collins needs to go.


Because he's the closer and it's probably going to be a 2-run game in the 9th? Is that a serious question?
I would have  
spike : 5/20/2017 10:20 pm : link
sent Rivera home on that FLores double.
RE: RE: Why is Reed warming up????  
Mike in NY : 5/20/2017 10:21 pm : link
In comment 13477330 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 13477327 Chris L. said:


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This is why Collins needs to go.



Because he's the closer and it's probably going to be a 2-run game in the 9th? Is that a serious question?


If we score at least one more run you will have people wondering why someone else wasn't warming up even though there would not have been enough time to get someone else warmed up
Conforto OPS  
Rflairr : 5/20/2017 10:23 pm : link
1.087 👀
Now don't use Reed  
Rflairr : 5/20/2017 10:24 pm : link
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Sit Down reed  
spike : 5/20/2017 10:24 pm : link
use Edgin or Robles
Gezellman pitching great and  
Chris L. : 5/20/2017 10:24 pm : link
you have a two run lead againsr a team that can't hit. You have to conserve Reed's use. What do you do tomorrow in a one run game? Stupid move to pinch hit! With the hits Collins will get off the hook but it exposes why he is aweful at managing a pen!
RE: RE: RE: Why is Reed warming up????  
Eric on Li : 5/20/2017 10:25 pm : link
In comment 13477332 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 13477330 Eric on Li said:


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In comment 13477327 Chris L. said:


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This is why Collins needs to go.



Because he's the closer and it's probably going to be a 2-run game in the 9th? Is that a serious question?



If we score at least one more run you will have people wondering why someone else wasn't warming up even though there would not have been enough time to get someone else warmed up


Agreed - this comment was prior to the 2 out rally. Now there's no reason for Reed, which looks like Collins is doing.
or use  
spike : 5/20/2017 10:25 pm : link
Ramirez
RE: Gezellman pitching great and  
Eric on Li : 5/20/2017 10:26 pm : link
In comment 13477337 Chris L. said:
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you have a two run lead againsr a team that can't hit. You have to conserve Reed's use. What do you do tomorrow in a one run game? Stupid move to pinch hit! With the hits Collins will get off the hook but it exposes why he is aweful at managing a pen!


They pinch hit for Gsellman with Flores - which basically added 3 extra runs to the lead.
Eric...and what happens if Flores does not get a hit?  
Chris L. : 5/20/2017 10:30 pm : link
You do realize that there was a 3 in 4 probability he would NOT get a hit.
RE: or use  
spike : 5/20/2017 10:31 pm : link
In comment 13477339 spike said:
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Ramirez


He sucks.
Anyone but Reed  
Chris L. : 5/20/2017 10:34 pm : link
The fact Collins had Reed up with Gzellman pitching well lets you see why Reed will quickly be burned out.
And here comes Reed  
Chris L. : 5/20/2017 10:36 pm : link
Three outs from Gzellman would have avoided all of this!!
here comes Reed  
spike : 5/20/2017 10:36 pm : link
MIlone is pitching tomorrow, so I doubt Reed will be needed
Send this bum back to where you got him  
Rflairr : 5/20/2017 10:36 pm : link
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Reed has t o ignore all those guys on base  
spike : 5/20/2017 10:37 pm : link
and just focus on the batter
Spike i hate to say it  
Chris L. : 5/20/2017 10:39 pm : link
but you are probably right.
Walks in a run  
Rflairr : 5/20/2017 10:41 pm : link
With a 5 run lead
Reed hates entering games in the middle of innings.  
PhiPsi125 : 5/20/2017 10:41 pm : link
This hasn't been his forte.
can they fuckin  
spike : 5/20/2017 10:42 pm : link
pitch to contact?
How many bloop hits  
Mike in NY : 5/20/2017 10:43 pm : link
Will Angels get?
get out there WARTHEN  
spike : 5/20/2017 10:44 pm : link
bunch of mental midgets
This bullpen is unreal  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2017 10:45 pm : link
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hire arod  
spike : 5/20/2017 10:45 pm : link
as our manager
Reed is such a pussy  
Rflairr : 5/20/2017 10:50 pm : link
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tC has broken  
spike : 5/20/2017 10:51 pm : link
our bullpen.
The Pen sucks  
steve in ky : 5/20/2017 10:53 pm : link
but hard to keep a pen sharp when your starters can't go deep into games
3-2 reed  
spike : 5/20/2017 10:54 pm : link
always without fail
PITTB!!  
spike : 5/20/2017 10:56 pm : link
Espinoza sucked more than our bullpen did tonight.

Reed just has a mental block about entering with guys on base  
Vanzetti : 5/20/2017 10:56 pm : link
He is lights out when starting an inning.

I don't think he had any walks all year. But bring him in with runners on and he can't find the plate.

Thank God the Mets won but really why have fans figuered this out but it has eluded our "brain" trust?

Steve...we had a starter (Gzellman)  
Chris L. : 5/20/2017 10:57 pm : link
in the game pitching great and Terry like the idiot he is took him out.
they had a 5 run lead against the bottom of the order  
Eric on Li : 5/20/2017 10:58 pm : link
there's no good way to manage a shitty bullpen.
RE: Steve...we had a starter (Gzellman)  
steve in ky : 5/20/2017 11:00 pm : link
In comment 13477379 Chris L. said:
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in the game pitching great and Terry like the idiot he is took him out.


Well he was in as a reliever, but regardless most managers would go for a PH in that spot with a chance of getting some insurance runs and your closer available.
Steve...I couldn't disagree more  
Chris L. : 5/20/2017 11:07 pm : link
most managers would realize the bullpen is depleted and totally taxed. They would also realize that everyday use of Reed will burn him out as well. You had a starter (Gzellman) ready to start pitching only his third inning with a two run lead and his first two innings had been excellent. Also, you had the bottom of the order coming up for the Angels and they are a bad hitting team to boot. Most managers would have continued on with Gzellman.
I hate TC but I can't kill him for taking Gsellman out  
PhiPsi125 : 5/20/2017 11:11 pm : link
for a pinch hitter. Most managers make that move and it turned out to be the right decision anyway. And there's no way to know if Gsellman would still be as effective in the ninth. He hasn't exactly been very good this year.

Bottom line is that we walked three batters and gave up three hits in the ninth. We had a 5 run lead. The ninth should have been easier but that's baseball.

We got the win. And the Nats haven't been as dominating lately. Let's inch closer and hope to stay in striking distance.
The only thing you can ding Terry on  
Vanzetti : 5/20/2017 11:12 pm : link
is maybe leaving Ramirez in a batter too long. A guy comes in with a five run lead and lets the first two guys on, you probably should take him out.

But the real blame goes to the front office for not bolstering the pen when they had the money

RE: Steve...I couldn't disagree more  
Mike in NY : 5/20/2017 11:19 pm : link
In comment 13477394 Chris L. said:
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most managers would realize the bullpen is depleted and totally taxed. They would also realize that everyday use of Reed will burn him out as well. You had a starter (Gzellman) ready to start pitching only his third inning with a two run lead and his first two innings had been excellent. Also, you had the bottom of the order coming up for the Angels and they are a bad hitting team to boot. Most managers would have continued on with Gzellman.


We don't pinch hit, we don't get the insurance runs we need. Gsellman had two good innings, but he has sucked this year. No guarantee he does well pitching a third.
Gsellman has struggled this season  
spike : 5/20/2017 11:25 pm : link
so we should be happy to get two scoreless from him. The second inning he needed a double play t o get out of a jam IIRC
If TC had not pinched hit for him  
steve in ky : 5/20/2017 11:31 pm : link
with the closer available and then they had gone on to lose the game he would have been killed for it.
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