According to the New York Daily News, Janis Porzingis met with Phil Jackson recently to discuss KP blowing off the end of season meeting and leaving for Europe without the Knicks approval.
And according to the Daily News, nothing was resolved.
There are two key questions here:
1. What do the Porzingis family want to accomplish?. The Knicks have full control of KP until the 2020 season. So unless the Knicks want to deal him, he has few options.
2. If KP is totally disenchanted and wants to leave, should the Knicks auction him off? He has a ton of value as he is cost controlled for another
3 seasons and still has a ton of upside. The Knicks should be able to get quite a haul for him.
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KP for the Sixers #3 pick.
Keep the 8th pick.
1, 3 & 8 and let's start this rebuild.
KP for the Sixers #3 pick.
Keep the 8th pick.
1, 3 & 8 and let's start this rebuild.
No and no.
First off, Celtics don't do that deal. Second off, Why would you trade KP for a player who has less then a 20% chance of being nearly as good as KP already is?
KP for the Sixers #3 pick.
Keep the 8th pick.
1, 3 & 8 and let's start this rebuild.
Enjoy another 20 years of crap knicks basketball.
Trade KP.. only the knicks and their damaged ptsd fan base would sour on KP after two years. Stranger than fiction.
hilarious?
Hard to put the Mets in that group considering they have made the post season recently.
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Who is the bigger disaster between the Knicks, Jets, and Mets? Hmmm.
Hard to put the Mets in that group considering they have made the post season recently.
Overall, and this season, still a disaster, though.
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Knicks, and its honestly not even particularly close.
I think they're second-worst behind the Browns
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KP is already a "good" player, its pretty much unarguable.
And I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would be able to defend the Knicks front office on any single topic.
I am disappointed in his behavior but it doesn't mean I believe they should trade him at this point.
melo who has been ripped apart was man enough to show up, how many other players failed to show up to the exit meeting for the knicks?
How can you be so glass half full with the Knicks? They STINK!
KP is already a "good" player, its pretty much unarguable.
And I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would be able to defend the Knicks front office on any single topic.
And the only way people can find this behavior acceptable is if they're incapable of moving beyond their hatred of Dolan and Phil. Unfortunately, that seems to describe a large part of the Knicks' fan base. It shouldn't be acceptable.
He seems to believe he's a FAR more accomplished player than he actually is. If he was coming off the season KAT just had, I would have zero problems with this. Instead, he hasn't put together 4 good consecutive months as a NBA player.
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if they really had such a terrible meeting why did his brother come out and say kp wanted to be a knick? why did kp say he did not want to be traded?
How can you be so glass half full with the Knicks? They STINK!
yes they do stink, but i also taking anytging the media say with a huge grain of salt...
melo traded, rose gone, 3 draft picks this year and you got the makings of a fun young team...
and guess what they will suck again next yeat and get another high draft pick, sucking this year was the best thing and kp will see that when he is surrounded by young talent he can grow with
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KP is already a "good" player, its pretty much unarguable.
And I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would be able to defend the Knicks front office on any single topic.
And the only way people can find this behavior acceptable is if they're incapable of moving beyond their hatred of Dolan and Phil. Unfortunately, that seems to describe a large part of the Knicks' fan base. It shouldn't be acceptable.
He seems to believe he's a FAR more accomplished player than he actually is. If he was coming off the season KAT just had, I would have zero problems with this. Instead, he hasn't put together 4 good consecutive months as a NBA player.
He's 21, he's coming off a pretty damn good season for such a young player. I don't think he "seems" to believe anything, except that the Knicks are a shit show. KAT's situation is 100x better and more stable then the nonsense KP is in.
which is funny because the best thing for kp is melo traded and the team built around him
I'd rather root for paint to dry than root for stupid Brooklyn.
I'm this close to giving up on the NBA (knicks) other than to watch it like I do PGA golf. I am right there on the ledge. One nudge and I'm done with this team. They just aren't worth it. And I'm as loyal a fan as any.
I want to believe KP isn't going anywhere but I've been fooled before. Phil was the worst guy to bring in here. I realize that now. He won't trade picks he will just fuck the player and then dump him for 25 cents on the dollar. Let's see how little he gets for melo.
We have no idea what KP and his family have said.
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Proxy fight for Melo's benefit. KP and his family don't seem to say what they want, so it seems like a protest about the Knicks treatment of Melo.
We have no idea what KP and his family have said.
actually we did, kp said he was frustrated but wants to be a knick, janis said kp wants to be a knick and if he is traded he will not resign with thay tram...
so in other words the media jist keeps blowing it out of proportion..
its media blowing everything out of proportion
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KP is already a "good" player, its pretty much unarguable.
And I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would be able to defend the Knicks front office on any single topic.
And the only way people can find this behavior acceptable is if they're incapable of moving beyond their hatred of Dolan and Phil. Unfortunately, that seems to describe a large part of the Knicks' fan base. It shouldn't be acceptable.
He seems to believe he's a FAR more accomplished player than he actually is. If he was coming off the season KAT just had, I would have zero problems with this. Instead, he hasn't put together 4 good consecutive months as a NBA player.
Keep on believing This lol. Yeah KP is the problem. Sure he is.
Phil jackson is literally insulting players day in day out in weird cryptic fashion on twitter and you think KP only has the right to bitch if he had a KAT type impact last season.
I don't even know where to begin. You're right KP isn't jack shit. Right. He's only the second most intriguing and tantalizing 22 year old player in the entire league. Or 21 year old whatever he is.
Every team in the NBA would trade everything they have for KP. And the knicks would likely lose every trade they made.
If KP didn't have the clout needed this isn't even a story. Why does everyone care? Because it's kristaps fucking porzingas. The Unicom. The best knicks draft pick in over 30 years. The present and future. You're damn right he's done enough. If he hadn't no one would give a shit. And i for one applaud him for acting immature.
It's not the players. It's. The. Knicks.
I don't care what melo did. I care what this franchise has done to average and good and even great players over the last 20 years or so. Dolan and the garden chew up and spit out anyone in their path. It's sickening.
It took 1.5 years to wipe that smile and look of hope and exuberance off KPs face. Trade him!!
If KP didn't have the clout needed this isn't even a story. Why does everyone care? Because it's kristaps fucking porzingas. The Unicom. The best knicks draft pick in over 30 years. The present and future. You're damn right he's done enough. If he hadn't no one would give a shit. And i for one applaud him for acting immature.
It's not the players. It's. The. Knicks.
bwcause it is not constructive in any way, if he went to the meeting and they aired everything out that would be better than just skippjng the meeting and running to latvia...
when melo and phil were fighting what did melo want? a neeting to air everything out, that is how you handle it...
melo wanted to know hos future, so guess what hr showed uo to the meeting...
if kp rrally eanted to knoe the plan he should of just showed up
just leaving without galking to the knicks, yeah sorry doesnt sit well with me i dont care who you are, 10 year vet or a rookie, you dont just run away, sorry i dont care how good you are...
even dwight howard who everyone hates flew back to la to tell kupchak in person he was leaving to go to houston...
He's 21, he's coming off a pretty damn good season for such a young player. I don't think he "seems" to believe anything, except that the Knicks are a shit show. KAT's situation is 100x better and more stable then the nonsense KP is in.
They won the same amount of games and the T-Wolves weren't even attempting to tank. Their situation, while full of potential, isn't exactly gold and lollipops. 51 losses is 51 losses regardless of how you get there.
If KP wants the Knicks situation to be better, THIS isn't the best way to accomplish that. The BEST way for him is to simply play better. People seem to be under the impression that Phil's tweets keep shots from going in the basket or people from staying in front of their man on defense. No, those things are the result of hard work, effort, and pride.
this tram is about to be built around you and the future of the team is you, how you going to handle 20,000 people booing you when the team is playing bad, how you going to handle the mrdia ripping yoh apart because you cant carry the team?
Believe what you want. Just prepare yourselves for another situation ending badly. Every time we find a young player everyone seems to like the player regresses. Every. Single. Time. The knicks are a toxic dumpster fire of misery and failure. They are where players go to fail and founder. Where players go to make mistakes and act immaturely.
Dolan needs to sell the team. Phil needs to quit.
“Absolutely, I want to stay here all my career,’’ Porzingis said, according to the English translation provided by the magazine. “But the thing I want most of all is winning. When the time comes, I will seriously start to think about it. Right now I just try to do my best.”...
“This was a situation media did not hesitate to heat up more than it was in reality. I think there was some mistakes from Phil — things he maybe shouldn’t [have] said or written, things that made the situation worse or made him not look good. But at the same time — it’s that kind of business. I understand.’’...
According to the translation, Porzingis said, “As a player who wants to be leader someday — when I saw things we need to change and be better at — I tried to speak up in the locker room. But there are many players used to playing this kind of basketball for more than ten years so you can’t change them. Coaches can try but it is what it is.
“In a one way this was a good year for me to see how can I handle so crappy a time and learn from that. It was unpleasant but valuable experience to learn from, to get through it and continue to play with the right attitude and maximum concentration. If you want to be a leader you have to start with yourself — first you have to look in the mirror and ask yourself: what can you do better? And only then tell your teammates what they should do better … a real test for the brains.”
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Keep on believing This lol. Yeah KP is the problem. Sure he is.
Phil jackson is literally insulting players day in day out in weird cryptic fashion on twitter and you think KP only has the right to bitch if he had a KAT type impact last season.
I don't even know where to begin. You're right KP isn't jack shit. Right. He's only the second most intriguing and tantalizing 22 year old player in the entire league. Or 21 year old whatever he is.
Every team in the NBA would trade everything they have for KP. And the knicks would likely lose every trade they made.
With fans and media making excuses for the players, they don't ever actually have to accomplish anything or take any responsibility for the situation they find themselves in. Even laziness on defense is blamed on the triangle. Guys are too selfish to pass to open teammates and that must have something to do with how James Dolan treated Charles Oakley. I won't spend one second trying to say Phil Jackson is without fault, but nothing about KP's recent actions leads me to believe he actually looks in the mirror and wonders what HE can do to make the situation better.
He needs to control what he can and ultimately that will make this franchise better. Worrying about Phil, his tweets, and Kurt fucking Rambis won't.
Believe what you want. Just prepare yourselves for another situation ending badly. Every time we find a young player everyone seems to like the player regresses. Every. Single. Time. The knicks are a toxic dumpster fire of misery and failure. They are where players go to fail and founder. Where players go to make mistakes and act immaturely.
Dolan needs to sell the team. Phil needs to quit.
with all due respect i think you are going a little overboard...
next year when the knicks have a young point guard kp and willy and the knicks have a future you will feel a lot better...
this season was rough but when kp is playing with young guys and he is the leader of the team he will be fine...
You want to walk up to Jackson and tell him he's fucking the whole thing up? That he botched the Melo situation? That the triangle sucks? That if things don't improve, you want the fuck out by any means possible? Be my guest.
But don't let it become public you're skipping out on meetings because you're pissed, and that you're brother got nowhere when trying to address the matter with the FO. Go in front of the cameras, act like everything's peachy, and try to resolve the matter behind closed doors.
If you're unhappy with the chaos, you don't add to it.