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NFT: KP's brother met with Jax, didn't go well

PhilSimms15 : 5/20/2017 10:27 pm
According to the New York Daily News, Janis Porzingis met with Phil Jackson recently to discuss KP blowing off the end of season meeting and leaving for Europe without the Knicks approval.

And according to the Daily News, nothing was resolved.

There are two key questions here:

1. What do the Porzingis family want to accomplish?. The Knicks have full control of KP until the 2020 season. So unless the Knicks want to deal him, he has few options.

2. If KP is totally disenchanted and wants to leave, should the Knicks auction him off? He has a ton of value as he is cost controlled for another
3 seasons and still has a ton of upside. The Knicks should be able to get quite a haul for him.


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You know what would make a great social experiment?  
jcn56 : 5/22/2017 11:25 am : link
Take the world's biggest, bright eyed optimist, and make them a Knicks fan.

See how long it takes before you drive their soul into the ground and turn them into a cynic.
RE: RE: 16  
giantsfan44ab : 5/22/2017 11:25 am : link
In comment 13478269 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 13478257 giantsfan44ab said:


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I was referring to pre-cousins Pelicans, which is not much worse than post-cousins Pelicans.

The first 2 years of KP's career he's averaged nearly identical amount of games played as Davis in his career, so not sure why one can be tagged with the "injury" bug and not the other.

My overall point was the Pelicans had 4 solid starters around Davis and so far the best that's happened was getting swept in the first round of the playoffs. Right now we only have one solid young starter (willy). So if we end up with simply a Jrue Holiday and Ryan Anderson-caliber players in the next 2 years (both very solid players) the future will suddenly start looking bleak.



giantsfan i never said this was going to be easy, knicks have a ton of work to do and there is no guarantee of anything...

i am just not going to go around hating the team i root for every second of the day, sorry there is no fun in that, the minute i start thinking that my team has nothing and i go around hating them 24/7 i no longer want to be a fan because that is not fun to me..

i watch sports to get away from life for a couple of hours if that is not fun anymore i am goijg to stop doing it, life is to ahort to view everything doom and gloom...

and i am mot saying i am true fan and people who hate phil are not true fans, everyone is a fan i just viee it differently


Well sorry I'm not trying to ruin being a Knicks fan for you. I think I'm more optimistic than probably every other Knicks fan on this board besides you, but I'm still struggling to see it. The NBA is a sport where I enjoy watching other teams almost as much as I like watching the Knicks. I like watching other NFL teams but not as much to the extent as it is with me and the NBA. I only watch the Yankees in baseball and the World Series.

So even being a biased Knicks fan, I wouldn't even talke them top 3 as far as post-Lebron/GS teams go. That's just me being practical. Ignoring the immortal Spurs I'd much rather be a fan of the Bucks, Wolves or Sixers. No other team really even comes close for me. Boston is probably the next for me now that they have Fultz. I think Browns going to be lethal. I'd take KP over Booker but I don't think I'd take KP/Willy/#8over Booker, chriss, ulis, #4 and whatever bender will be. But I'd take being in the east over the west, however.

Phoenix, Denver and NYK are all in the tier after MIL, MIN, PHI, and BOS for me.
RE: do you really think they let longstaff go to spite kp?  
djm : 5/22/2017 11:28 am : link
In comment 13478194 nygiants16 said:
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i mean come on seriously?


Seriously? Yes I do. The knicks are an abomination. I've learned if you think Its fucked up or bad here then it most definitely is.

All this is noise at this point  
steve in ky : 5/22/2017 11:28 am : link
The bottom line is if the Knicks can improve KP will be just fine. And if by the time he can become a FA they don't improve there are bigger things to worry about.
giantsfan you are not ruining anythong for me  
nygiants16 : 5/22/2017 11:29 am : link
i know its a long road for the Knicks, i just choose not to be miserable about it..
on that note enjoy the off season fellas  
nygiants16 : 5/22/2017 11:31 am : link
hopefully knicks embrace the rebuild, i am taking a break for awhile from knicks threads
RE: You know what would make a great social experiment?  
djm : 5/22/2017 3:45 pm : link
In comment 13478288 jcn56 said:
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Take the world's biggest, bright eyed optimist, and make them a Knicks fan.

See how long it takes before you drive their soul into the ground and turn them into a cynic.


That was me. And now I don't even want to follow this team anymore.
RE: RE: You know what would make a great social experiment?  
steve in ky : 5/22/2017 5:41 pm : link
In comment 13478560 djm said:
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In comment 13478288 jcn56 said:


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Take the world's biggest, bright eyed optimist, and make them a Knicks fan.

See how long it takes before you drive their soul into the ground and turn them into a cynic.



That was me. And now I don't even want to follow this team anymore.


I have been following them since the early 70's and I am really questioning whether or not I should even bother to spend the money on NBA League Pass this season. Each season I do and almost regret it as money wasted.
For me it's a combination of the Knicks being so bad  
bceagle05 : 5/22/2017 5:45 pm : link
and the Cavs and Warriors being so dominant. This season had absolutely zero intrigue, and I'm a big enough NBA fan that I would watch a Clippers/Spurs game or something on a random Thursday night in years past. Not this year though. Really couldn't care less - I've just been waiting for a Melo trade and the draft.
Melo isn't even the problem here  
djm : 5/22/2017 6:42 pm : link
But phil jackson and the knicks propaganda machine have perpetuated that melo is the source of all our problems here. Even phil in LA is on board. It's all bullshit. Melo has his warts to be sure but if anything, the knicks enabled him and probably extracted Melo's short comings or insecurities.

It's never going to get better. It's rotten. Knicks will dump melo for chicken fried shit and everything will he just peachy. Maybe things will improve for a bit. Maybe the knicks win 40 next season and this year's pick shows promise along with KP and Gomez. And then it will turn to shit. This franchise has no ability to build anything of substance let alone sustain anything. Maybe it's all coincidental and it isn't really Dolan. Maybe it is. All I know is it's fucked.
One thing we do know for certain  
djm : 5/22/2017 6:44 pm : link
Dolan can be loyal, to a fault. Phil isn't going anywhere unless he quits. He won't.
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