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BBI draft favorites that will over and under deliver.

George from PA : 5/21/2017 6:02 am
I tend to overthink prior to the draft and end up justifying the picks after the draft....but which drafted players that ended up on other teams do you feel will not meet expectation and will exceed expectations?

The one that I feel will not do well is Garrett Bolles. The pundits complain that the Giants did not draft an OL earlier in the draft. Many had them getting Bolles. Many had him targeted as a true LT but I for one am glad Denver picked him. He played at around 290 which seems very light for the NFL and at the age of 25 is not exactly still growing. The age also implies that he might have reached his potential and will not have the improvement seen in younger guys.

Samaje Perine falls on the other side of the spectrum! As he ended up with the Redskins, I hope I am wrong. RBs are tough to Gage in college as many have highways to run through which do not exsist in the NFL but this guy just looks like an NFL RB and I had hoped we drafted him. No offense to Gallnan who looks quick and runs hard...he will cause people to miss. Perine just seems to me to be that inside punisher that we needed.

Njoku is it for me.  
robbieballs2003 : 5/21/2017 6:57 am : link
The guy has all the tools to make it work but he just looks clumsy to me like a young puppy running around. He can be good but he is way too much of a projection. I hope he does well but I can see him being just average.

Going back I am and was intrigued by Odi. Thjs guy has not been able to put it together and had a weird fuckup on social media. If he can put it together this year that could pay dividends for us. We already know our DL has arguably the best starting 3 to 4 in football but behind them is where it starts to get concerning. Vernon and JPP can not play the amount of plays they played last year and be expectes to stay healthy late in the year. So, some of these younger DEs we have have to step up. Odi is still one of those guys that doesn't even seem to be in the conversation and rightfully so but if he does turn it around then this D goes to another level.
I agree....Njoku reminds me of our own J.Adams  
George from PA : 5/21/2017 7:04 am : link
I didn't check but I suspect Njoku is faster....but Athletically Adams seems very similar.
Don't get caught up in Bolles's age  
Mike in NY : 5/21/2017 7:49 am : link
It is not like he was injured in college and working with college strength coaches. Because of off the field issues he was not in school some of the time between HS and when he was drafted. Watching him progress in his time at Utah (I have a friend who is a PAC-12 buff so saw a good amount of Bolles) he is far from maxed out. If we want to talk about a first round OT that I thought was overrated, look at Ryan Ramczyk. Reminds me too much of other first round busts who played for Wisconsin (Gibson, McIntosh, etc.)
Not a fan of of BBI favorite OJ Howard  
Milton : 5/21/2017 8:18 am : link
And I think the OL class as a whole is going to perform much better than advertised.
I'm still on the Ramczyk bandwagon.  
yatqb : 5/21/2017 8:32 am : link
I also think that Kareem Hunt will be a stud.
Ask me in 3 years  
SGMen : 5/21/2017 8:38 am : link
I do however believe we did very well and got good value where we picked with the possible exception of QB D. Webb.

Webb is very raw so it is hard to say how much coaching will impact him for the better. He has a long road ahead of him and my gut tells me he is inactive all season UNLESS (God forbid) injuries hit. Some pundits had Webb in the 2nd round due to his arm strength so maybe we did OK getting him where we did.

And for those who say we should have waited until next year to grab a QB when more good ones are available I say "why not take a QB in round 1 next year..." if he is the best player available? Think about it: Manning is older; Webb is developing; and a #1 pick could be our #2 or #3 QB for the season with the hopes that either Webb or the #1 are the future of the franchise. You aren't going far without an above average QB.
George  
JPinstripes : 5/21/2017 10:42 am : link
Ironically my choice is RB Wayne Gallman, who does nothing spectacular, yet he seems to bring his lunch pail on every play and has enough elusiveness, quicks and toughness to be a very productive NFL back IMHO.
Will Taco succeed in Big D?  
ChicagoMarty : 5/21/2017 10:48 am : link
Cows are in dire need of a pass rush. Just not sure Taco can deliver.

Much depends on Taco's success for Dallas to be competitive imo
RE: George  
SGMen : 5/21/2017 10:51 am : link
In comment 13477610 JPinstripes said:
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Ironically my choice is RB Wayne Gallman, who does nothing spectacular, yet he seems to bring his lunch pail on every play and has enough elusiveness, quicks and toughness to be a very productive NFL back IMHO.
I like Gallman too. He isn't a breakway back, lacks the gear, but he can be nifty and get you 4-5 yards on many plays.

RB is one of our deeper positions. I see Perkins starting, Vereen on 3rd downs, and Dwarka playing in between as well since he'll be active on gamedays due to his special teams ability. I'm not sure about Gallman's ST ability? Anyone know?
OLB Tyus Bowser is going to kick ass for Baltimore.  
Klaatu : 5/21/2017 11:00 am : link
Couple of guys I liked went to the Rams - WR Josh Reynolds and FS John Johnson. They should help a team that needs all it can get. Hate to see Perine on Washington, too.
I like Gallman....he seems to check all the boxes...  
George from PA : 5/21/2017 11:00 am : link
But I put him similar to Perkins...which is fine....more the merrier.

I just assumed more of a hammer.

Zay Jones  
adamg : 5/21/2017 12:47 pm : link
I think he could be the best receiver in the draft
RE: Not a fan of of BBI favorite OJ Howard  
WillVAB : 5/21/2017 7:52 pm : link
In comment 13477530 Milton said:
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And I think the OL class as a whole is going to perform much better than advertised.


Disagree on Howard, agree on OL.

Under Deliver -- Taco Charlton. Just don't see it w this guy. He's gonna be w a very good d coordinator though so I guess we'll see.

Over Deliver -- Rasul Douglas. To me he looks like an Asante Samuel type player. Hopefully I'm wrong.
I think over/under comes from how well the talent  
JohnB : 5/21/2017 8:41 pm : link
matches the system being run. A great player in a system that doesn't match his abilities is a waste. So who do I think matches their system the best.

Sorry to be a homer but Evan Engram is going to fit into this system very well.

-The new WCO that is quick passing

-OLine that can't be counted on to protect for 5 and 7 step drops by Eli

-Eli has been throwing a lot to the TEs and quick slants to OBJ already.

-3 WRs who can command respect.

The middle will be wide open for Evan Engram.

As I said, I might be a homer but if he can catch like the staff thinks he can, I have to believe he will produce at a very high level rather quickly.
I'll pick the over from the Giants roster  
GuzzaBlue : 5/22/2017 10:33 am : link
Tomlinson. If this dude stays healthy, I think he will be one of the steals of the draft. Not sure how much he'll stand out with all the big names on the Dline, but I'm confident, with his talent, he could be a monster for us inside. Hopefully, making teams regret not drafting him in the 1st because of his injury history.

Underachiever - Njoku might be the obvious here because he seems to need time to develop, so I'll go with Barnett on the Eagles. I'll be eating my words for each sack he gets on us, but it goes back to the "Force" players article posted awhile back. He doesn't fit in that category and history shows he has less of a chance at being an impact player especially someone worthy of the #13 pick.
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