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| Justin Pugh believes he sees what is coming in the near future, and he likes the view. “I’m sitting in the driver’s seat,’’ Pugh told The Post during a round of golf on Thursday. The Giants starting left guard, in his fifth season with the team after being drafted in the first round in 2013, is bullish not only on his immediate future but that of the team. The Giants picked up the fifth-year option on his original rookie contract, which will pay him $8.8 million this season. Pugh, after this season, is seeking further career security with the Giants, with whom he wants to finish his career, and more money. And he said he plans on earning both. “I’ve played good football,’’ he said. “I know how important this year is for me. I think this is the best Giants team I’ve been on, so I think the sky’s the limit for the team and myself.’’ |
The worse outcome imho is paying him the twelve million and losing out on retaining someone better
Giants' Justin Pugh readying himself for fierce contract negotiations - ( New Window )
Who talks like that? Just saying
Just curious.
That said, I'm not crazy about giving him top dollar. He's a good player, but I wouldn't consider him elite & he has an injury history.
But he is not going about it the right way, in the press or on the field totally.
Get to work and show everybody how much you mean to us by playing as a top Guard in the league...
But he is not going about it the right way, in the press or on the field totally.
Get to work and show everybody how much you mean to us by playing as a top Guard in the league...
Exactly. The quote I pasted above is something you think or maybe your stance in negotiation, not necessarily something I think should be spoken to the press. That said, I read the rest of the article and he said all the right things otherwise, so maybe a bit of an unfair cherry pick on my part.
Just curious.
Just curious.
Giants don't need to make him an offer to get compensation. If they don't make an offer and he signs elsewhere for say 4 yrs/$10M+ per season, then Giants would get a 3rd round comp pick unless they sign a comparable FA.
The other option is for the Giants to franchise tag Pugh. In that case, if Pugh signed elsewhere the Giants would receive up to two first round picks (actual compensation would likely be negotiated).
Just curious.
Nothing. He'll be a FA. We'll get a comp pick.
It's kind of absurd the franchise tag for o line isn't broken up by position. Could really hurt the Giants because they have a center and a guard they'd be paying tackle money to if they tag.
Pugh' value is in his versatility. He's a good linemen but not a great linemen- at least so far.
Not really huge, built himself up. I have always had a conviction that he won't last and that he's fragile.
His health might hold the key to next year.. I'd give Fluker and /or Hart snaps at LG because I don't think Jones is the anwer - though I think he might be a decent center.
#millennials lol
But I have a feeling it won't be the Giants. Has it escaped Pugh's notice that the OL was absolute garbage and that he has one of the lowest ypc when running behavior be him
But I have a feeling it won't be the Giants. Has it escaped Pugh's notice that the OL was absolute garbage and that he has one of the lowest ypc when running behavior be him
this is absolutely not true - if it means what I think it means - because the last sentence makes very little sense -- he was the 7th best run blocker in 2015 -- his metric in 2016 is skewed but not far off from 2015 before injury -- with only a slight drop off when he returned
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Is this the official word out of Giants camp?
But I was right about Hankins when everyone was overrating him.
But I was right about Hankins when everyone was overrating him.
LOL, define "everyone"
Pretty sure your opinion on Hankins did not differ from every single other person here. But keep telling yourself that, Mr. Insider. :)
Pugh, Richburg, and Flukker are all impending FAs next year. My bet is that Richburgis the only one who returns. Pugh may price himself out of the Giants price range and if Flukker has the kind of year here everyone hopes then he will test the market.
Flowers is the X factor. If he shows considerable improvement great but if not you have another position to address.
Bisnowaty will he be part of the solution or just another experiment that doesn't pan out? Hart, can he be a reliable starter or just a back up?
If continuity is what really determines the success of an OL there is a problem here. At next years draft we may be looking at having to invest multiple high round picks on the OL because right now it doesn't seem like we have any plug and play options in case we lose multiple OL starters.
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However, I don't think Hart or Fluker has LG potential. Jerry is probably a better guard than either Hart or Fluker and he was not good when he played there.
Pugh's replacement would have to be Jones, Biz or one of the UDFAs. Think about that for a while.
However, I don't think Hart or Fluker has LG potential. Jerry is probably a better guard than either Hart or Fluker and he was not good when he played there.
Pugh's replacement would have to be Jones, Biz or one of the UDFAs. Think about that for a while.
I hope Pugh has a big year and leads our run game back to the promised land. I really do cause that means we are likely winning games and on our way to a SB run. We need strong OL play and Pugh may indeed be our best overall OL followed by Richburg, Flowers (we hope he steps up) Jerry and Hart (who must step up else...we are in big trouble...me thinks).
and for those of you who are ready to see him walk he's an above average lineman - whether you appreciate him or not - the Giants are not going to let him go - I guarantee it --
If I'm the Giants I sign Richburg first -- and Richburg is going to be well paid too -- and then tag Pugh until a deal is struck -- he's going to get his money and the Giants are going to pay him -- but Pugh with his injury history is taking a huge risk if he doesn't play ball
why would you let him walk -- if the Giants have a decent season - they will pick at the bottom third of the draft -- and have no real way to replace him -- there just aren't a lot of above average offensive lineman available to sign so the Giants really can;t afford to take that tack
The new CBA insures that Offensive lineman will be a hard comodity -- there's just now way around that
In hindsight, the Giants should have signed Hank and used their 2nd and later rounds to move up and get Lamp.
In hindsight, the Giants should have signed Hank and used their 2nd and later rounds to move up and get Lamp.
No, I'd rather they went this route. They'll make a fair offer to Pugh, but if someone breaks the bank, he's gone. You can tell from the tenor of Pugh's interviews - he wants more than the Giants are willing to pay.
The Giants have proven better at drafting DT than OL. I trust their drafting of a DT more than I would an OG. Better that they didn't give Hankins $10M, drafted DT, and can spend that $10M on a FA OL next offseason if necessary.
So far, he isn't healthy. He isn't pro bowl level. OG isn't a premium position.
OG seems an easier position to fill. Mid round prospects or JAGs like John Jerry are always available. Especially with Beckham and Collins contracts looming. Those guys are game changers.
the numbers that average to below average linemen are getting is what is ridiculous -- and it's because the market is really thin to nill -- the Giants would end up paying what Pugh wants for a lineman that can't even scratch his jock - or won't pay and get another John Jerry -- most of you will be jumping off a cliff if that happens
The fact is Pugh has never been considered as a replacement for an alternate of players nominated for the Pro-Bowl. Certainly, if he is considered a Pro-Bowl caliber player, then he would at least break the threshold of replacement for a replacement of a Pro-Bowl player. Perhaps, if they considered replacements for the replacements for the alternates, then he would get the nod?
Another fact is that he doesn't know what it means to play 16 games outside of his rookie season. Are the injuries his fault? No. But one has to question his toughness when a bruised thigh, migraine, and a sprained knee lead to multiple games missed every season that he was affected with the listed injuries.
Despite the dumpster fire regarding Flowers' technique, no one can question his toughness. He hobbled through his rookie year on a high ankle sprain that no doubt would have sent Pugh to the bench for multiple games.