I love that the Yanks have been moving their minor league infielders around making sure they are versatile and able to play multiple positions. The Yanks are so loaded with quality young infielders that a guy like Thairo Estrada flies under the radar. Estrada is 2nd in the Eastern League with a .346 average. He's just 21 years old and could also be knocking on the door to AAA before too long. Mateo probably moves up to AA, but Estrada is the better player right now.
I love that the Yanks have been moving their minor league infielders around making sure they are versatile and able to play multiple positions. The Yanks are so loaded with quality young infielders that a guy like Thairo Estrada flies under the radar. Estrada is 2nd in the Eastern League with a .346 average. He's just 21 years old and could also be knocking on the door to AAA before too long. Mateo probably moves up to AA, but Estrada is the better player right now.
Estrada is a guy who has interested me for several years now- sneaky power, plays 2B, SS and 3B- and generally seems to be a solid defender. He is the type of guy I would like the Yanks to put at 2B and just see what happens.
but what do you do with Castro? What do you do with Wade? What do you do with Torres? What do you do with Andujar? What do you do with Torreyes? All he does is produce when called upon. What do you do with Didi? There are only so many spots. Didi is playing great and should stay put. Castro is near the top of the league in hitting and is locked up for the next few seasons at a very reasonable contract. Call me crazy, but Castro could be a very nice trade chip right now. Torres can take over 3B and Headley can become a switchhitting 3B/1B/bench guy. That jettisons Carter and leaves no room for a Tyler Austin or Mike Ford or Andujar or another young 1B/3B type. Lots of tough decisions to be made.
but Headley is the one on the chopping block here. I remember Headley was a little miffed last season when Girardi benched him a few extra days because Torreyes was on fire - I can just imagine how he'll handle Gleyber being called up to play third.
His days are numbered. Spot DH/PH duty for him soon. I thought Holliday could at least be serviceable at 1st allowing for more flexibility with the lineup - and I still think that way. The gaff at that clown park in Tampa yesterday was more about the "stadium" than the player.
This team is thriving with exceptional young talent and no first baseman.
Carter is tits. How did this guy hit 41 incognito HRs last year ? Did they let him hit the ball out of his hand ?
Carter will go off at some point and hit 15 HR in 25 days. But his cold stretches will drive you insane.
I like Castro. He pulls an occasional brain fart, but overall
he's a good player. Quick bat, athletic, and he looks comfortable a 2b now.
I think ultimatlely Castro stays for the remainder of his contract at minimum, and that he and Torres will be the 2b and 3b. Not sure which will be which.
The way Didi is playing, I think the big internal debate will be between him and Mateo. One of them will be the guy they wind up including in a package for a top starter when the time comes
RE: I like Castro. He pulls an occasional brain fart, but overall
he's a good player. Quick bat, athletic, and he looks comfortable a 2b now.
I think ultimatlely Castro stays for the remainder of his contract at minimum, and that he and Torres will be the 2b and 3b. Not sure which will be which.
The way Didi is playing, I think the big internal debate will be between him and Mateo. One of them will be the guy they wind up including in a package for a top starter when the time comes
I disagree with ALL of this.
Too many people are getting blinded by Castro's BA- which is sustained almost entirely by a BABIP near .400- which is completely unsustainable- and almost 80 points over his career BABIP.
To be blunt, Castro should be dealt as soon as possible. His value simply is not going to be higher- and when that BABIP corrects to the mean, it is going to be ugly.
There is no rush on Didi being moved now- and Mateo is almost certainly not going to be the SS. It is more likely that Mateo gets moved to CF- and that transition is already happening in Tampa A ball with Mateo.
The middle INF situation is not time-critical. Torres MIGHT make it to NY by the trade deadline. However, it likely won't be to play SS right away.
Now, depending how the rest of the season plays out for the INF prospects, the discussion on Didi probably comes up this winter. I think the Yanks will move Headley as soon as possible- and MIGHT even just eat the last season of that deal if things don't improve.
RE: RE: I like Castro. He pulls an occasional brain fart, but overall
he's a good player. Quick bat, athletic, and he looks comfortable a 2b now.
I think ultimatlely Castro stays for the remainder of his contract at minimum, and that he and Torres will be the 2b and 3b. Not sure which will be which.
The way Didi is playing, I think the big internal debate will be between him and Mateo. One of them will be the guy they wind up including in a package for a top starter when the time comes
I disagree with ALL of this.
Too many people are getting blinded by Castro's BA- which is sustained almost entirely by a BABIP near .400- which is completely unsustainable- and almost 80 points over his career BABIP.
To be blunt, Castro should be dealt as soon as possible. His value simply is not going to be higher- and when that BABIP corrects to the mean, it is going to be ugly.
There is no rush on Didi being moved now- and Mateo is almost certainly not going to be the SS. It is more likely that Mateo gets moved to CF- and that transition is already happening in Tampa A ball with Mateo.
The middle INF situation is not time-critical. Torres MIGHT make it to NY by the trade deadline. However, it likely won't be to play SS right away.
Now, depending how the rest of the season plays out for the INF prospects, the discussion on Didi probably comes up this winter. I think the Yanks will move Headley as soon as possible- and MIGHT even just eat the last season of that deal if things don't improve.
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no rush Rich. As I said, when the time comes. And it still remains to be seen if Mateo even forces that decision on them.
Headley is time is running out. He'll be the first to go if Torres forces his way to the bigs. I could deal with his lame bat if he was at least a decent glove,
but he brings nothing to the table.
Castro has been one of the most valuable Yankee hitters in 2017
He's also by any defensive metric and the eye test ( and take those both for what they're worth) pretty much one of the very worst 2B's in MLB. There is no danger moving him during the season he can't be much worse at 3B than he is at 2B and Headley is back to being an error machine too. If Torres gets called up it's probably 50/50 which one plays 2B and which one plays 3B. I doubt Didi is moved during the season either to a new position or traded. But Didi did play 2B in WBC and yes I know he got injured playing 2B.
The 20-year-old infielder will continue to see most of his time at shortstop and third base for Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, mixing in an occasional game at second. According to a source with knowledge of the Yanks' thinking, the focus at Double-A in recent weeks has been on getting Torres comfortable at third base.
Cashman said the promotion "has nothing to do with the big leagues," adding that Torres "really just needs a more challenging league."
But given Chase Headley's recent struggles at the plate -- he's hitting .155/.189/.225 with four extra-base hits in 18 games since April 29 after opening the year with a .324/.425/.541 slash line and 10 extra-base hits in the first 21 games -- could it be possible that the Yankees see Torres as a second-half option at the hot corner if Headley's bat remains cold?
Castro will always tease you because he IS enormously talented, but his game remains an undisciplined one. Regression to the mean is going to hit him hard. If Torres and Wade weren't a step away in Scranton, this situation would be different. But they are. The Yankees have some excellent infield options close to the major leagues, so they'll have the flexibility to sell high on Castro (unlike the Cubs, who got only Warren and Ryan for him).
Castro is definitely a guy who can be/probably should be traded.
Even with Cashman running things, I seriously doubt he trades a piece off of a 1st place team midseason. I could definitely see it happening after the season, however they would open themselves up to Castro cooling off immensely and losing value.
He is a top 5 defensive SS and Good Hitter with power you don't trade that. Castro could be a valuable piece if the Yankees are Traders at the deadline. Castro,Romine,Gardner,Headley, could all be moved for pitching. You could even add Hicks to the equation if you believe in Frazier and Fowler.
Might be a move you regret in time, especially at the rate pitchers go down these days. You have to be careful people want to say Castro may never hit this good forget about how many times they buried Jeter, forget about Paul O'Niell, every player is different, Castro will never be a good defensive player, but he could become a .33/25-30 home run guy annually. He may just be coming into his own. I am not saying don't trade him no matter what, I am saying be real careful about that move, it has to be a great player coming back or fuck that. I would ride him for a while longer unless I was knocked over.
I'm glad your not in the front office. Headley and Gardner, yes, Hicks and Castro, no fucking way. Hicks should be our starting center fielder and playing every day, but we have some cheap fucking owners that don't want their money on the bench. We already know how much Girardi is dictated to, I am certain that he is forced to start Ellsbury. That fuck is really fucking things up now.
and a very consequential time to be in the FO. The right decisions (and a healthy dose of luck, especially as regards pitcher health) could put this organization in line to be consistently competitive on par with the last dynasty. The wrong decisions - backing the wrong prospects, trading for the wrong arms, poor luck with health - and they could end up a middling team. I have my favorites, I have things I'd like to see happen, but if it was up to me Hicks would have been out on his ass this offseason which tells you how much my opinion is worth.
I thought it probably would, as it's been raining here all day, but now they're predicting it to stop before game time. So if the field's not too wet, I think they'll play.
one of my favorites. However there is no metric or eye test that I can find that shows him to be a top 5 defensive SS. Please link your source. Last year Didi's DWAR was 0. That ranked him 19th out of 23 qualified SS. His batting WAR was 2.2 which ranked him 12th out of 19 qualified SS. His 751 OPS ranked him 10th out of 19 qualified SS. I'm not picking on Didi like I said he's a favorite of mine but we Yankee fans might think he's producing more the numbers reveal. He doesn't qualify yet in 2017 because he missed the first month but both his defense and batting numbers so far are about the same numbers as 2016. I think once the season ends if there's a team with a good young, controllable starting pitcher that needs a SS the Yankees might be a match and offer a choice of Wade or Didi.
Paul, comparing Castro to Jeter and O'Neill is silly
There was something rather important that Jeter and O'Neill had in spades that Castro does not - plate discipline. That's the big reason why Castro is due for a major BAbip adjustment.
one of my favorites. However there is no metric or eye test that I can find that shows him to be a top 5 defensive SS. Please link your source. Last year Didi's DWAR was 0. That ranked him 19th out of 23 qualified SS. His batting WAR was 2.2 which ranked him 12th out of 19 qualified SS. His 751 OPS ranked him 10th out of 19 qualified SS. I'm not picking on Didi like I said he's a favorite of mine but we Yankee fans might think he's producing more the numbers reveal. He doesn't qualify yet in 2017 because he missed the first month but both his defense and batting numbers so far are about the same numbers as 2016. I think once the season ends if there's a team with a good young, controllable starting pitcher that needs a SS the Yankees might be a match and offer a choice of Wade or Didi.
Didi looks smooth to me under the eye test but I don't think he would rank Top 5. Watch guys like Lindor or Andrelton field, they're on a whole other level.
It seems to me that any of the IFs, including Didi and Castro,
could go in trades at some point, depending upon what is coming back to us. I really like Didi, and Castro's having a great year so far, but with this farm system the kids will be pushing towards the majors soon, and they have to play somewhere.
You've just got to hope that the return is adequate in any trades we make.
I mean look at our outfield - Judge, Frazier, Fowler and Rutherford, plus Mateo and Wade getting work. Hicks is still young. And of course Bryce Harper is lurking in free agency.
Similar logjam on the infield, with Machado lurking in free agency, too.
A ton of tough decisions to be made.
Gotta get pitching, pure and simple. With the way this
lineup is producing, with Bird on the way back, and with the positional prospects in the system, Cashman has to try to land aces in trades. Forget Machado and Harper, get pitching.
In hindsight, the Sale trade might have been a wise one to make...but no one could have known how well the team has hit this year.
The Yankees have decide if they want to scrape the rebuild
and win now. Right now Torres would get you a good pitcher in a trade. but the Yankee starting staff is at least 2 years away. Monty/Sev are learning. Tanaka is broken. CC is not dependable and Pineda can be hot and cold. In the minors Green,Cessa are not ready to compete. Adams may be something. Michell is not a Starter. Kap is off the table for a few years. Its not time for a playoff run yet. Keep to the plan and sell off the guys who are not going to be here in two three years.2019-20 that is the Yanks window.The Attendance and the Championships will come lets hope Hal and Randy will be patient.
Core players Sanchez,Judge,Bird,Torres,Frazier,Rutherford Severino Montgomery Betances. Stay the course.
it has the potential to be even better going forward. Could, would and should they jetson all of Gardner, Ellsbury, Headley, Torreyez, Carter and Holliday for Torres, Estrada, Wade, Bird, Ford, Fowler and Fraizer for next spring?
As for starting pitching I doubt they trade for any. They may look to trade for a reliever with control.
With the offense this team can provide Starting pitching does not need to be great beyond the top 2 in their rotation. Will Tanaka figure it out and regain last years form? Does Severeno continue to mature into a much needed top of the rotation guy? Does Montgomery settle in as a solid midrotation guy? If so then a youngster (Adams) will be the 5th starter with the Yankees looking for one more...maybe a free agent like Cobb or a potential Otani?
As for Didi, Castro and Hicks if they continue to have success the Yankees can just let them play out their contract/team control and let them walk when the time comes.
I don't agreee that a top team only needs two #1/2 starters,
He has the inventory as he likes to say to do that now. No way will Torres be traded though. Probably not Rutherford either and the 3 young guys in MLB Sanchez, Bird & Judge aren't getting traded either. But I think everyone else on the MLB roster and in MiLB is available for what Cashman thinks is the right pitching price.
Starting pitching to too volatile to risk having more
then one or two ace-level starters at high annual salaries for any given season. Just look at the Mets rotation where it looked like they were set for years. If they had locked up all of them that team would be in a deep financial mess! Would you want the Yankees to have Price or Grienke and their contracts?
In today's game, it makes more sense for the Yankees the flex their dollar advantage in the bullpen. Compare the cost of an ace starter to the cost of top relievers and the bullpen wins.
Why would anyone think the Yankees are planning on
signing any high priced FA's? What Cashman has been trying to do for the past few years is trade for young, cost controlled starters. He has the trade chips to do it now.
controlled starters you're talking about? What do you think it would cost to acquire them? Signing Cobb to say a 5 year 80 million dollar deal makes more sense than giving up the farm system.
I think the yanks will trade Castro and a prospect
Google Yankees 40 man roster and rule 5 2017. They won't be able to keep all these minor leaguers. They're going to lose good ones for nothing if they don't trade them. Also try to understand that 85% of the farm system/prospects provide the greatest value they will ever have to the Yankees as trade chips.
as well as anyone here. I don't think the Yankees really care all that much about losing second tier prospects if their prime youngsters find MLB success. Of course, if you can get something for them great. Again who do you trade and who do you target?
By the eye test I don't have metrics to back it up nor do I need them. Covers great ground and makes few errors. This Castro talk is ridiculous. If we didn't have him we would probably have lost an additional 5 games easy. Your going to trade away a hitter in his prime batting 340 who has led the national league in hits before. Maybe this is who he is and if he does dip to 300 which is 40 points off his average is that terrible? Tontrade castro would be a terrible move. He's making peanuts look over at 3B headley makes 13 mm and Castro makes 7mm. Yea let's trade a career 285 hitter in his prime making 7mm dollars...brilliant!!
The Yanks are a young and exciting team competing for a playoff spot. They are not going to trade Castro or Gardner during the season and risk messing with team chemistry. (Both Gardner and Castro appear to be team leaders and well-liked in the clubhouse.)
If one of the outfielders gets hurt and Frazier is deemed ready, then he may get a call up. If everyone stays off the DL then Frazier will stay in AAA until Sept.
When Gleyber is ready, Headley is probably gone.
When Bird and Austin are healthy, then Carter is expendable.
I doubt any other position players are at risk during the season. After the season is over then the Yanks can revisit the idea of moving Castro and/or Gardner.
to cost just under 24 million for 18 and 19 including the buyout. He has never had an 800 ops season. He does not have plate discipline. He is having a great season so far but we're only a quarter way through. No rebuilding team is going to want him so that leaves contenders. How many of those are there?
As for Torres and Fraizer if the Yankees coming looking to trade for someone on my team I am always asking for their best prospects first!
Are you out of your mind?
Absolutely not.
Estrada is a guy who has interested me for several years now- sneaky power, plays 2B, SS and 3B- and generally seems to be a solid defender. He is the type of guy I would like the Yanks to put at 2B and just see what happens.
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His value is probably as high as it's going to be. I doubt he keeps hitting at this level all season.
I agree. But, I would not trade Didi.
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His days are numbered. Spot DH/PH duty for him soon. I thought Holliday could at least be serviceable at 1st allowing for more flexibility with the lineup - and I still think that way. The gaff at that clown park in Tampa yesterday was more about the "stadium" than the player.
This team is thriving with exceptional young talent and no first baseman.
Carter is tits. How did this guy hit 41 incognito HRs last year ? Did they let him hit the ball out of his hand ?
I think ultimatlely Castro stays for the remainder of his contract at minimum, and that he and Torres will be the 2b and 3b. Not sure which will be which.
The way Didi is playing, I think the big internal debate will be between him and Mateo. One of them will be the guy they wind up including in a package for a top starter when the time comes
I think ultimatlely Castro stays for the remainder of his contract at minimum, and that he and Torres will be the 2b and 3b. Not sure which will be which.
The way Didi is playing, I think the big internal debate will be between him and Mateo. One of them will be the guy they wind up including in a package for a top starter when the time comes
I disagree with ALL of this.
Too many people are getting blinded by Castro's BA- which is sustained almost entirely by a BABIP near .400- which is completely unsustainable- and almost 80 points over his career BABIP.
To be blunt, Castro should be dealt as soon as possible. His value simply is not going to be higher- and when that BABIP corrects to the mean, it is going to be ugly.
There is no rush on Didi being moved now- and Mateo is almost certainly not going to be the SS. It is more likely that Mateo gets moved to CF- and that transition is already happening in Tampa A ball with Mateo.
The middle INF situation is not time-critical. Torres MIGHT make it to NY by the trade deadline. However, it likely won't be to play SS right away.
Now, depending how the rest of the season plays out for the INF prospects, the discussion on Didi probably comes up this winter. I think the Yanks will move Headley as soon as possible- and MIGHT even just eat the last season of that deal if things don't improve.
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he's a good player. Quick bat, athletic, and he looks comfortable a 2b now.
I think ultimatlely Castro stays for the remainder of his contract at minimum, and that he and Torres will be the 2b and 3b. Not sure which will be which.
The way Didi is playing, I think the big internal debate will be between him and Mateo. One of them will be the guy they wind up including in a package for a top starter when the time comes
I disagree with ALL of this.
Too many people are getting blinded by Castro's BA- which is sustained almost entirely by a BABIP near .400- which is completely unsustainable- and almost 80 points over his career BABIP.
To be blunt, Castro should be dealt as soon as possible. His value simply is not going to be higher- and when that BABIP corrects to the mean, it is going to be ugly.
There is no rush on Didi being moved now- and Mateo is almost certainly not going to be the SS. It is more likely that Mateo gets moved to CF- and that transition is already happening in Tampa A ball with Mateo.
The middle INF situation is not time-critical. Torres MIGHT make it to NY by the trade deadline. However, it likely won't be to play SS right away.
Now, depending how the rest of the season plays out for the INF prospects, the discussion on Didi probably comes up this winter. I think the Yanks will move Headley as soon as possible- and MIGHT even just eat the last season of that deal if things don't improve.
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no rush Rich. As I said, when the time comes. And it still remains to be seen if Mateo even forces that decision on them.
Headley is time is running out. He'll be the first to go if Torres forces his way to the bigs. I could deal with his lame bat if he was at least a decent glove,
but he brings nothing to the table.
Cashman said the promotion "has nothing to do with the big leagues," adding that Torres "really just needs a more challenging league."
But given Chase Headley's recent struggles at the plate -- he's hitting .155/.189/.225 with four extra-base hits in 18 games since April 29 after opening the year with a .324/.425/.541 slash line and 10 extra-base hits in the first 21 games -- could it be possible that the Yankees see Torres as a second-half option at the hot corner if Headley's bat remains cold?
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... and/or to protect against the Rule 5 draft.
I thought it probably would, as it's been raining here all day, but now they're predicting it to stop before game time. So if the field's not too wet, I think they'll play.
Didi looks smooth to me under the eye test but I don't think he would rank Top 5. Watch guys like Lindor or Andrelton field, they're on a whole other level.
You've just got to hope that the return is adequate in any trades we make.
Similar logjam on the infield, with Machado lurking in free agency, too.
A ton of tough decisions to be made.
In hindsight, the Sale trade might have been a wise one to make...but no one could have known how well the team has hit this year.
Core players Sanchez,Judge,Bird,Torres,Frazier,Rutherford Severino Montgomery Betances. Stay the course.
As for starting pitching I doubt they trade for any. They may look to trade for a reliever with control.
With the offense this team can provide Starting pitching does not need to be great beyond the top 2 in their rotation. Will Tanaka figure it out and regain last years form? Does Severeno continue to mature into a much needed top of the rotation guy? Does Montgomery settle in as a solid midrotation guy? If so then a youngster (Adams) will be the 5th starter with the Yankees looking for one more...maybe a free agent like Cobb or a potential Otani?
As for Didi, Castro and Hicks if they continue to have success the Yankees can just let them play out their contract/team control and let them walk when the time comes.
If you have great pitching you're in almost every game. And great teams typically have great rotations.
In today's game, it makes more sense for the Yankees the flex their dollar advantage in the bullpen. Compare the cost of an ace starter to the cost of top relievers and the bullpen wins.
The Yanks are a young and exciting team competing for a playoff spot. They are not going to trade Castro or Gardner during the season and risk messing with team chemistry. (Both Gardner and Castro appear to be team leaders and well-liked in the clubhouse.)
If one of the outfielders gets hurt and Frazier is deemed ready, then he may get a call up. If everyone stays off the DL then Frazier will stay in AAA until Sept.
When Gleyber is ready, Headley is probably gone.
When Bird and Austin are healthy, then Carter is expendable.
I doubt any other position players are at risk during the season. After the season is over then the Yanks can revisit the idea of moving Castro and/or Gardner.
If Castro is hitting 310 and a good prospect is included that won't fetch a decent return? And I don't buy the Torres Frazier comment either.
As for Torres and Fraizer if the Yankees coming looking to trade for someone on my team I am always asking for their best prospects first!