OL[5]
Eli
OBJ
Marshall
Perkins
Ellison
Engram
EQUALS
Shepard Sitting On Bench
IMO:
Shepard is the 12th man.
RUNNING GAME
Ellison is too valuable not to be in the backfield with Perkins.
1] Creates holes for Perkins.
PASS PLAYS
1] Ellison protects Eli if Flowers or Hart/Flucker have a brain fart.
2] Ellison allows Perkins to go out on pass patterns.
Engram, Perkins, Marshall, OBJ is a certified nightmare for defensive coordinators.
With Engram out there safeties have to protect the middle a bit more opening up more room for OBJ and Marshall because the linebackers can't cover him.
Plus the linebackers have to worry about Perkins underneath!
3] Ellison [bigger guy than Perkins] is pass blocking protecting for Eli.
4] Ellison is available for a last second outlet pass if pass protection holds up by the OL.....[OL holding up PP has same odds as the Jets winning the Super Bowl this season]
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Shepard is a good player
But Engram can do everything Shepard can do and more; creates more mismatches!!!
Engram is taller, stronger, and faster!!!
Plus with this lineup the Giants can keep the same players out there 85% of the time, hopefully keeping the defense guessing a little.
& #8203;Having Engram, Ellison [HB] out there with Perkins, Marshall, and OBJ helps both the running game and on pass plays.
I think this is best for the Giants offense, with Eli in the shotgun or under center. [at least until the tackles start protecting Eli better on pass plays]
With this lineup Giant offense becomes more explosive and consistent, just because the defense has to respect four play makers each and every play.
This year the offense is back in the top 10.
Special teams will bounce back some.
And the defense will still be in the top 5.
Going to be a fun year.
Your guess?& #8203;
Marshall Shepard Ellison-[OL] Engram Beckham ... Eli in shotgun
Ellison gives Eli time to find Shepard underneath if somehow Marshall/Odell/Engram are all covered - an unlikely scenario
Not 11 personel 95% of the time
We might have the chance at being unpredictable now.
Yay!
He might split wide now and then, but he is a TE, he isn't going to replace Shepard in the slot.
Once you bastards get something into your heads you run it into the ground.
This.....
These practices are to see what people can do... period. If Webb was in there, would the thread be about how Eli lost his starting job?
but the thread title meant Shepard's amount of plays would be reduced way way down.
Engram is a better version of Shepard.
Engram can do everything Shep can do; he is taller, stronger, and if that wasn't enough ...........f a s t e r
Not a knock on Shepard, just a fact.
Primary reason for the FB in this offense is to run block. If he can't do it, then they need to find someone that can. I'm not sold on an HB, but maybe Ellison could change my mind?! Keep in mind also that Mac made a comment about not knowing what an HB is and so I would think, reading between the lines, that he also is not sold on that idea.
but the thread title meant Shepard's amount of plays would be reduced way way down.
Engram is a better version of Shepard.
Engram can do everything Shep can do; he is taller, stronger, and if that wasn't enough ...........f a s t e r
Not a knock on Shepard, just a fact.
Saying Engram is better than Shepard at this point is silly. We would like to believe he is going to be...but at this point that is purely a hope.
You are going to see guys come in and out in different packages. Depth is a good thing and will keep opposing defenses on edge.
the guy who was signed last year to help the ran game by being in the backfield blocking [think he was a free agent who was released by the Steelers] was a TE/HB but was hurt in the preseason and was on the IR all year. Giants I think released him a couple months ago. Giants/McAdoo was going to use him as a HB and TE.
Shepard, Vereen, JAdams and Gallman have to be in the mix significantly enough to NOT have a 90% same 11 lineup like last year.
Stay ahead of opponents just like BB does. Our East opponents added DE to get to Eli and our pass potential; the above 4 could make enough variations on a theme that Eli can more easily audible into that by mid 2nd qtr, DCs will be just guessing the and hoping for the best.
I will remind you that Shepard had a much better rookie year than Landon Collins did the year before. Think about that. And you think Shepard is the odd man out.
You have to love BBI sometimes.
Eh, it's not that far-fetched. Engram really might be a much better TE than Shepard is a WR.
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and you want him to sit the bench? Really?
I will remind you that Shepard had a much better rookie year than Landon Collins did the year before. Think about that. And you think Shepard is the odd man out.
You have to love BBI sometimes.
Eh, it's not that far-fetched. Engram really might be a much better TE than Shepard is a WR.
He will also be used in two TE formations. I think Giants will also use him as a blocker on passing downs and then slip him out into the flat. I expect him to have about 30 receptions next year.
However, Shepherd is most definitely not sitting to give Ellison snaps.
He might split wide now and then, but he is a TE, he isn't going to replace Shepard in the slot.
Once you bastards get something into your heads you run it into the ground.
us bastards also know simple math, which suggests if the giants run more 2 TE looks, its likely going to mean less 3WR sets.
the 2 TE look, with 1 of them having Engram's skillset, also allows for a much more versatile passing attack.
there is no way, following Marshall's signing and Engram's selection, that Shepard will see the field as much.
[I like Shepard]
I do not think they paid Ellison to sit. He can cover up a lot of the OL deficiencies.
BB manages to get all of his good players into the game plan, and it doesn't seem to matter what their positions are---that's great coaching...let's hope that MAC is capable of that.
This whole who is the odd man out debate makes no sense.
This isn't the first time the Giants have had lots of offensive options. It's worked before. There will be enough plays for everyone to get involved.